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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

....dropped on the mat this morning.

I imagine she sent it to me along with perhaps five or six other important people.

I can't believe she'd bother sending it out to the ne'er do wells on this forum. I shall contact her later today and thank her for thinking of me.

Will I vote for her?........Nah, don't think so.

[Bigron]

I got one as weel, including an invitation to be a FWB - did you? I'm not sure if I want to take her up on her kind offer, thpough.....

Ron.

[RossPhim]

So who the he!! are you gonna vote for then?
 

[Bigron]

1What a pity that Screaming Lord Such is no longer with us! 

Ron.

[tunnie]

Lucky, here in Surrey Heath we don't get anything, not a marginal seat

[Sir Tigger KC]

Same here in true blue West Dorsetshire!   

I did get a leaflet from Oliver Letwin and one from the Limp UnDem chappie, but nothing from Labour.    I'm hoping the Labour candidate will knock on my door, so he/she can explain how they will avoid bankrupting the country as they do every time they get in.     

[Viral_Jim]

Ironically the only party wasting paper by poking it into our letterbox this year was... The Green Party.

Again, not in a marginal.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

....dropped on the mat this morning.

I imagine she sent it to me along with perhaps five or six other important people.

I can't believe she'd bother sending it out to the ne'er do wells on this forum. I shall contact her later today and thank her for thinking of me.

Will I vote for her?........Nah, don't think so.

But who else is there for a sane right minded person to vote for ?

[aaronjb]

But who else is there for a sane right minded person to vote for ?

If the people I know is anything to go by, Corbyn. I'm actually starting to think he might win it.. maybe I'll stick £50 on him to win, as if he gets in I'll need all the financial help I can get!

[STEMO]

....dropped on the mat this morning.

I imagine she sent it to me along with perhaps five or six other important people.

I can't believe she'd bother sending it out to the ne'er do wells on this forum. I shall contact her later today and thank her for thinking of me.

Will I vote for her?........Nah, don't think so.

But who else is there for a sane right minded person to vote for ?

Donald Trump. Brexit. These things happen.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

TM appears more competent than she really is due to the lack of any credible opposition.

2017 reminds me of Thatcher against Foot in 1983.

I really don't know what to do. Corbyn is too much of a socialist even for me to vote for. Theresa May comes across as 'middle management'. There is too much of a haughty WI member about her, all Jam and Jerusalem.

 

[TD]

TM appears more competent than she really is due to the lack of any credible opposition.

2017 reminds me of Thatcher against Foot in 1983.

I really don't know what to do. Corbyn is too much of a socialist even for me to vote for. Theresa May comes across as 'middle management'. There is too much of a haughty WI member about her, all Jam and Jerusalem.

I agree....however the cynical side of me thinks this....

If TM oopps up Brexit.....without a vote.....She will be slagged off as we never voted for you, its your fault....
However if she wins the vote and still oopps it up, she can claim you voted for me.....whats your problem....

I might just vote to be rebellious 

[Rods2]

So far only had a Liebour sheet of lies, so a few more parties sheets of lies to go between now and the 8th June.

[aaronjb]

I saw this posted by a (very) young friend of mine - it'll be her first general election and if this is how all the young people think.. Corbyn has it in the bag.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

[Bigron]

Corbyn would appear to have a bag of Magic Beans.....

Ron.

[tunnie]

Because of the first past the post system and the way the areas are split, some articles suggest this will boost areas already in young Labour support, e.g. City centre areas.

Most of London voted to remain, yet outside largely brexit. Northern areas, the shires, will still go Tory I think.

[aaronjb]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

And yes, I assume Corbyn has a bag of magic beans as Ron says.. or a forest of money trees!

[Lizzie Zoom]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

Yes, and thank goodness there are many very clever youngsters out there who are not fooled easily; most are not stupid. They are the ones who will actually cast their vote.  They will remember that Labour were in power up to 2010, and know what happened, with those who have studied politics and history knowing what happened when Labour were in power up to 1979; those who are not sure on those facts no doubt will be suitably informed by parents / grand parents, with even the latter stating now that they voted Labour in the past but will not now reinforcing the message. Youngsters of voting age want a good future and I cannot see many of them having any other but one choice.

June the 8th will of course tell us all what the majority want.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

Yes, and thank goodness there are many very clever youngsters out there who are not fooled easily; most are not stupid. They are the ones who will actually cast their vote.  They will remember that Labour were in power up to 2010, and know what happened, with those who have studied politics and history knowing what happened when Labour were in power up to 1979; those who are not sure on those facts no doubt will be suitably informed by parents / grand parents, with even the latter stating now that they voted Labour in the past but will not now reinforcing the message. Youngsters of voting age want a good future and I cannot see many of them having any other but one choice.

June the 8th will of course tell us all what the majority want.

The speculation will soon end.

Mother Theresa will win by a landslide. For a Tory she has some pretty left wing ideas. For example she is not opposed to 'interfering with market forces'. She is aware (unlike mad dog Thatcher) that unbridled capitalism is not the answer.

Stopping the WFA for wealthy coffin dodgers in good in my view but it won't go down well with 'blue rinse tories' 

[STEMO]

Pensioners who have retired to Spain and other warmer climes still get it too. Winter Air Conditioning allowance.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Pensioners who have retired to Spain and other warmer climes still get it too. Winter Air Conditioning allowance.

Yes......how can this be right.

I say that if 'dear old blighty' isn't good enough for them, then sod them. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Could they not have found a more smug picture of him It was almost irritating enough to make me punch my laptop

[Doctor Gollum]

Pensioners who have retired to Spain and other warmer climes still get it too. Winter Air Conditioning allowance.

Might be a few more joining them if he gets anywhere near elected

[STEMO]

Could they not have found a more smug picture of him It was almost irritating enough to make me punch my laptop

Never mind him, look at poor old constipated Theresa.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Could they not have found a more smug picture of him It was almost irritating enough to make me punch my laptop

Never mind him, look at poor old constipated Theresa.

She does appear to have a constipated buttoned-up demeanour, probably because she is the daughter of a vicar.

Perhaps she is in need of a good shag.........

[Doctor Gollum]

Could they not have found a more smug picture of him It was almost irritating enough to make me punch my laptop

Never mind him, look at poor old constipated Theresa.

She does appear to have a constipated buttoned-up demeanour, probably because she is the daughter of a vicar.

Perhaps she is in need of a good shag.........

I suspect that you couldn't keep up...

[Kevin Wood]

I suspect that you couldn't keep it up...

FTFY, and no, me neither. 

[Doctor Gollum]

I suspect that you couldn't keep it up...

FTFY, and no, me neither. 

Not my cup of tea, but the good lord Lincolnshire has a reputation to, um, uphold

[TD]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

Yes, and thank goodness there are many very clever youngsters out there who are not fooled easily; most are not stupid. They are the ones who will actually cast their vote.  They will remember that Labour were in power up to 2010, and know what happened, with those who have studied politics and history knowing what happened when Labour were in power up to 1979; those who are not sure on those facts no doubt will be suitably informed by parents / grand parents, with even the latter stating now that they voted Labour in the past but will not now reinforcing the message. Youngsters of voting age want a good future and I cannot see many of them having any other but one choice.

June the 8th will of course tell us all what the majority want.

When they were 11 yo's I don't think so...how many 11 yo's do you know that are interested/aware of governments 

[Doctor Gollum]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

Yes, and thank goodness there are many very clever youngsters out there who are not fooled easily; most are not stupid. They are the ones who will actually cast their vote.  They will remember that Labour were in power up to 2010, and know what happened, with those who have studied politics and history knowing what happened when Labour were in power up to 1979; those who are not sure on those facts no doubt will be suitably informed by parents / grand parents, with even the latter stating now that they voted Labour in the past but will not now reinforcing the message. Youngsters of voting age want a good future and I cannot see many of them having any other but one choice.

June the 8th will of course tell us all what the majority want.

When they were 11 yo's I don't think so...how many 11 yo's do you know that are interested/aware of governments 

But their parents will.   

[TD]

Pensioners who have retired to Spain and other warmer climes still get it too. Winter Air Conditioning allowance.

I remember reading an article about Peter Stringfellow......now he's not short of a bob or two...

He was given the Winter fuel allowance.....and tried to give it back, saying he didn't need/want it...

He was told you carnt give it back....and it was suggested if he really didn't want it, he should give it to charity.....

[Doctor Gollum]

Can't say fairer than that

[Sir Tigger KC]

Pensioners who have retired to Spain and other warmer climes still get it too. Winter Air Conditioning allowance.

Might be a few more joining them if he gets anywhere near elected

I doubt it.  If Jezza gets in and is in charge of the BREXIT negotiations, we'll end up with a situation where EU citizens living in the UK have more rights than indigenous Brits and Brits living in the EU get nothing in return. 

They've already said that they will pay whatever the EU demands!    Welcome to The Peoples Republic Of Jezza's Bankrupt Britain! 

[TD]

Can't say fairer than that

Ummm  yes they could....they could have allowed him to pay it back 

[Doctor Gollum]

Can't say fairer than that

Ummm  yes they could....they could have allowed him to pay it back 

Well there's that... point being that at least he tried, and a charity might use it better than the Treasury 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

Yes, and thank goodness there are many very clever youngsters out there who are not fooled easily; most are not stupid. They are the ones who will actually cast their vote.  They will remember that Labour were in power up to 2010, and know what happened, with those who have studied politics and history knowing what happened when Labour were in power up to 1979; those who are not sure on those facts no doubt will be suitably informed by parents / grand parents, with even the latter stating now that they voted Labour in the past but will not now reinforcing the message. Youngsters of voting age want a good future and I cannot see many of them having any other but one choice.

June the 8th will of course tell us all what the majority want.

When they were 11 yo's I don't think so...how many 11 yo's do you know that are interested/aware of governments 

You underestimate what children of that age take in, and what they over hear from their parents.  I remember my parents comments about MacMillian and then especially Harrold Wilson. I grant you I come from a very politically and historically aware family, but children in this age are bombarded by the media and Facebook. The children of 7 years ago (only) will remember the banking crisis and all the negativity concerning Blair, the Iraq war and the hopelessness of Gordon Brown. At school 11 year olds would have started to hear certain teachers sound off about politics; even in my day I had a real Socialist teacher banging the drum, and another who was a true traditional Liberal.  The things they said certainly stuck in my mind.

A lot of children now are very aware of what is happening in the World far more than we were as everything is now on a highly "international" stage. From 11 on, and I was originally referring more about children who would have been 13/14 in 2010, political awareness of those who will vote this time round is much higher than in the 1960s. The PC, iPad and smart phone is making sure of that.

The only problem is that some youngsters at least will not be bothered to cast their valuable vote. Sad, very sad

[Lizzie Zoom]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

Yes, and thank goodness there are many very clever youngsters out there who are not fooled easily; most are not stupid. They are the ones who will actually cast their vote.  They will remember that Labour were in power up to 2010, and know what happened, with those who have studied politics and history knowing what happened when Labour were in power up to 1979; those who are not sure on those facts no doubt will be suitably informed by parents / grand parents, with even the latter stating now that they voted Labour in the past but will not now reinforcing the message. Youngsters of voting age want a good future and I cannot see many of them having any other but one choice.

June the 8th will of course tell us all what the majority want.

When they were 11 yo's I don't think so...how many 11 yo's do you know that are interested/aware of governments 

But their parents will.   

Exactly right

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

In my experience, young people tend to be left wing. Its easy to be, when you have no responsibilities, probably don't pay taxes and don't understand how the world really works.
I don't mind young people being left wing. It shows they care about the world they live in. Its just a shame we don't ban them from voting until they are at least 25, when the things they want money thrown at will be taken from their salaries to pay for them, which then starts to bring some perspective into the situation.
Grown adults having a left wing mindset though, is a complete mystery to me I'm afraid.
Churchill said words to the effect - "He who has not been a Socialist before he is 40 has no heart. He who is still a Socialist after he is 40 has no head. As always, he summed things up perfectly.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

Yes, and thank goodness there are many very clever youngsters out there who are not fooled easily; most are not stupid. They are the ones who will actually cast their vote.  They will remember that Labour were in power up to 2010, and know what happened, with those who have studied politics and history knowing what happened when Labour were in power up to 1979; those who are not sure on those facts no doubt will be suitably informed by parents / grand parents, with even the latter stating now that they voted Labour in the past but will not now reinforcing the message. Youngsters of voting age want a good future and I cannot see many of them having any other but one choice.

June the 8th will of course tell us all what the majority want.

When they were 11 yo's I don't think so...how many 11 yo's do you know that are interested/aware of governments 

You underestimate what children of that age take in, and what they over hear from their parents. I remember my parents comments about MacMillian and then especially Harrold Wilson. I grant you I come from a very politically and historically aware family, but children in this age are bombarded by the media and Facebook. The children of 7 years ago (only) will remember the banking crisis and all the negativity concerning Blair, the Iraq war and the hopelessness of Gordon Brown. At school 11 year olds would have started to hear certain teachers sound off about politics; even in my day I had a real Socialist teacher banging the drum, and another who was a true traditional Liberal.  The things they said certainly stuck in my mind.

A lot of children now are very aware of what is happening in the World far more than we were as everything is now on a highly "international" stage. From 11 on, and I was originally referring more about children who would have been 13/14 in 2010, political awareness of those who will vote this time round is much higher than in the 1960s. The PC, iPad and smart phone is making sure of that.

The only problem is that some youngsters at least will not be bothered to cast their valuable vote. Sad, very sad

Are you confusing Supermac with Gladstone, Lizzie?.......

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

In my experience, young people tend to be left wing. Its easy to be, when you have no responsibilities, probably don't pay taxes and don't understand how the world really works.
I don't mind young people being left wing. It shows they care about the world they live in. Its just a shame we don't ban them from voting until they are at least 25, when the things they want money thrown at will be taken from their salaries to pay for them, which then starts to bring some perspective into the situation.
Grown adults having a left wing mindset though, is a complete mystery to me I'm afraid.
Churchill said words to the effect - "He who has not been a Socialist before he is 40 has no heart. He who is still a Socialist after he is 40 has no head. As always, he summed things up perfectly.

You are becoming very profound in your old age, Mr Bitz.

I'm a socialist but then I have years before I hit forty.

[Lizzie Zoom]

In my experience, young people tend to be left wing. Its easy to be, when you have no responsibilities, probably don't pay taxes and don't understand how the world really works.
I don't mind young people being left wing. It shows they care about the world they live in. Its just a shame we don't ban them from voting until they are at least 25, when the things they want money thrown at will be taken from their salaries to pay for them, which then starts to bring some perspective into the situation.
Grown adults having a left wing mindset though, is a complete mystery to me I'm afraid.
Churchill said words to the effect - "He who has not been a Socialist before he is 40 has no heart. He who is still a Socialist after he is 40 has no head. As always, he summed things up perfectly.

That is very true, and especially when your parents are Socialists, if not communists (mainly, most of the time) as in my time with them being of the war generation and looking for a new future for the working class.

Today, still, it is natural for children to lean towards politics that promise help for the weak, the sick, the unfortunate, rather than the politics of tradition, a strong military, and all that the right wing stand for. Like me though they mostly grow up and realise life is not fair, it is cruel, and the realities are we cannot afford to pay for full Socialist policies. Labour last time round taught many about that fact with their spending, although ironically they were the most centrist, even right wing Labour government seen to date.  That has stirred the pot and caused massive movements of voting patterns with the adults, so it would not be surprising the young adults due to vote are confused.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Anyone stupid enough to believe that shite, shouldn't be allowed outdoors without being accompanied by a responsible adult, and should never be allowed within a mile of a polling station. 

Yes, and thank goodness there are many very clever youngsters out there who are not fooled easily; most are not stupid. They are the ones who will actually cast their vote.  They will remember that Labour were in power up to 2010, and know what happened, with those who have studied politics and history knowing what happened when Labour were in power up to 1979; those who are not sure on those facts no doubt will be suitably informed by parents / grand parents, with even the latter stating now that they voted Labour in the past but will not now reinforcing the message. Youngsters of voting age want a good future and I cannot see many of them having any other but one choice.

June the 8th will of course tell us all what the majority want.

When they were 11 yo's I don't think so...how many 11 yo's do you know that are interested/aware of governments 

You underestimate what children of that age take in, and what they over hear from their parents. I remember my parents comments about MacMillian and then especially Harrold Wilson. I grant you I come from a very politically and historically aware family, but children in this age are bombarded by the media and Facebook. The children of 7 years ago (only) will remember the banking crisis and all the negativity concerning Blair, the Iraq war and the hopelessness of Gordon Brown. At school 11 year olds would have started to hear certain teachers sound off about politics; even in my day I had a real Socialist teacher banging the drum, and another who was a true traditional Liberal.  The things they said certainly stuck in my mind.

A lot of children now are very aware of what is happening in the World far more than we were as everything is now on a highly "international" stage. From 11 on, and I was originally referring more about children who would have been 13/14 in 2010, political awareness of those who will vote this time round is much higher than in the 1960s. The PC, iPad and smart phone is making sure of that.

The only problem is that some youngsters at least will not be bothered to cast their valuable vote. Sad, very sad

Are you confusing Supermac with Gladstone, Lizzie?.......

You cheeky bugger

.....and before anyone says anything else, I do not remember Anthony Eden being in power, although I remember the shock waves following the Suez Crises as my parents talked about it for the next 5 years; until the next shock, the Cuban Missle Crises

[Rods2]

In my experience, young people tend to be left wing. Its easy to be, when you have no responsibilities, probably don't pay taxes and don't understand how the world really works.
I don't mind young people being left wing. It shows they care about the world they live in. Its just a shame we don't ban them from voting until they are at least 25, when the things they want money thrown at will be taken from their salaries to pay for them, which then starts to bring some perspective into the situation.
Grown adults having a left wing mindset though, is a complete mystery to me I'm afraid.
Churchill said words to the effect - "He who has not been a Socialist before he is 40 has no heart. He who is still a Socialist after he is 40 has no head. As always, he summed things up perfectly.

You are becoming very profound in your old age, Mr Bitz.

I'm a socialist but then I have a few years before I hit one hundred and forty.

Fixed.