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[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

From next year they will be allowed to go on motorways during lessons. A recipe for disaster imo.
I think we should have a system where you pass your test, then have to take a further specific test, say a year later, before you can drive on motorways.      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40905632

[frostbite]

Is that not the point of pass plus?

[tunnie]

Pass plus is optional, I did it. But not everyone does.

[Viral_Jim]

Given the criteria of being with an instructor and in a dual control vehicle, I'm in favour of this.

 The current situation where the first time a young driver (legally) goes on the motorway is alone and having had no structured experience or tuition of the situation cannot be sensible.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Given the criteria of being with an instructor and in a dual control vehicle, I'm in favour of this.

 The current situation where the first time a young driver (legally) goes on the motorway is alone and having had no structured experience or tuition of the situation cannot be sensible.

Agreed! 

It has to be better for new drivers to be instructed properly in how to drive on a motorway.  We all think we can drive on motorways, but how many of us have had instruction?    

[Andy H]

Given the criteria of being with an instructor and in a dual control vehicle, I'm in favour of this.

 The current situation where the first time a young driver (legally) goes on the motorway is alone and having had no structured experience or tuition of the situation cannot be sensible.

Agreed! 

It has to be better for new drivers to be instructed properly in how to drive on a motorway.  We all think we can drive on motorways, but how many of us have had instruction?    

Have you got many Motorways in Darzet?

[Sir Tigger KC]

Given the criteria of being with an instructor and in a dual control vehicle, I'm in favour of this.

 The current situation where the first time a young driver (legally) goes on the motorway is alone and having had no structured experience or tuition of the situation cannot be sensible.

Agreed! 

It has to be better for new drivers to be instructed properly in how to drive on a motorway.  We all think we can drive on motorways, but how many of us have had instruction?    

Have you got many Motorways in Darzet?

 

Unlike you Cornish we do get out now and again! 

[Doctor Gollum]

Given the criteria of being with an instructor and in a dual control vehicle, I'm in favour of this.

 The current situation where the first time a young driver (legally) goes on the motorway is alone and having had no structured experience or tuition of the situation cannot be sensible.

Agreed! 

It has to be better for new drivers to be instructed properly in how to drive on a motorway.  We all think we can drive on motorways, but how many of us have had instruction?    

Being able to read helps... It's covered in the Highway Code

As for first time on a motorway alone etc... Shame on those parents who allow this to happen without bothering to take the time to get them used to it.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Given the criteria of being with an instructor and in a dual control vehicle, I'm in favour of this.

 The current situation where the first time a young driver (legally) goes on the motorway is alone and having had no structured experience or tuition of the situation cannot be sensible.

+1

[JamesV6CDX]

As for first time on a motorway alone etc... Shame on those parents who allow this to happen without bothering to take the time to get them used to it.

I guess this can't apply to everyone though. Many of my mates at the time of learning to drive were from single parent families whose mums didn't drive themselves. Although I agree they should in those circs maybe arrange alternative instruction.

Although I also guess some people don't learn to drive until their 30s and beyond. Can't really hold their parents accountable 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Given the criteria of being with an instructor and in a dual control vehicle, I'm in favour of this.

 The current situation where the first time a young driver (legally) goes on the motorway is alone and having had no structured experience or tuition of the situation cannot be sensible.

As I said in my original post - I believe its a disaster waiting to happen. New drivers should pass their test, spend a year driving on non motorway roads to gain experience & confidence. Then take a further test before being allowed on motorways.
This stops the current stupid situation, without the lunacy of learner drivers being let loose on motorways.
Or to put it another way. If you choose not to take Pass plus, your not allowed to drive on motorways.
I would also include major trunk roads in this. I was on the A12 near Witham last night in the outside lane. In front of me was a Nissan Micra, driving along at 50mph. It was displaying P plates, driven by a young women who was busy chatting to her three mates.
A long queue built up on both lanes behind her, but she was either completely oblivious, or didn't give a toss.
In the end, dozens of people broke the law by undertaking her, as she was causing a huge tailback.
It had to be seen to be believed.

[Bigron]

I'm with you on all that, Albs. However, it the circumstances that you described, I don't think it's illegal to "undertake"; the Highway Code states (from memory, not verbatim) that such an action is permissible if your lane is blocked by traffic moving more slowly - and she was! 

Ron.

[aaronjb]

In my travels yesterday the number of young people I found driving like idiots on the motorway was zero.

Number of middle aged idiots sitting in the middle lane on a quiet motorway, two.

Number of lorries taking up all three lanes (yes, on a three lane motorway.. is that legal now?) doing their four mile drag race.. eight. All on UK plates.

I don't think 18 year olds are the problem...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Is it compulsory to pass a driving test these days?. Before 1935 there was no need.

If so I must look into this.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

In my travels yesterday the number of young people I found driving like idiots on the motorway was zero.

Number of middle aged idiots sitting in the middle lane on a quiet motorway, two.

Number of lorries taking up all three lanes (yes, on a three lane motorway.. is that legal now?) doing their four mile drag race.. eight. All on UK plates.

I don't think 18 year olds are the problem...

Women sexting/texting can be a problem for the 18 year old who reads it while driving on a motorway.