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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #15 on: 24 February 2017, 19:25:12 »

You have removed the cam lock?
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You laugh... I had a hell of a job trying to turn the crank first time I tried it on my own... turns out I had left the car in gear and couldn't turn the crank any further than the slop in the flywheel :-[

Point is, don't overlook the obvious ;)

I wont/havent i just need to get her purring again :'(
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #16 on: 24 February 2017, 20:25:27 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch :y
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #17 on: 24 February 2017, 20:44:37 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch :y

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #18 on: 24 February 2017, 20:51:25 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch :y

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc
Look..not being funny...but I think you need to get someone else to do it.
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #19 on: 24 February 2017, 20:55:37 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch :y

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc
Look..not being funny...but I think you need to get someone else to do it.

Are u offering iv just had a real bad day we all get them but i just need to get it done
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #20 on: 24 February 2017, 21:01:43 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch :y

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc
Look..not being funny...but I think you need to get someone else to do it.

Are u offering iv just had a real bad day we all get them but i just need to get it done
Me? Oh no..you don't wanna let me near it  ;D
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #21 on: 24 February 2017, 21:08:52 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch :y

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc
Look..not being funny...but I think you need to get someone else to do it.

Are u offering iv just had a real bad day we all get them but i just need to get it done
Me? Oh no..you don't wanna let me near it  ;D

Sounded like you were offering your services
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #22 on: 24 February 2017, 21:09:52 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch :y

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc
Look..not being funny...but I think you need to get someone else to do it.

Are u offering iv just had a real bad day we all get them but i just need to get it done
Me? Oh no..you don't wanna let me near it  ;D

Sounded like you were offering your services

That would be a sure fire way of ensuring it never ran again  ;)
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #23 on: 24 February 2017, 21:12:12 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch :y

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc
Look..not being funny...but I think you need to get someone else to do it.

Are u offering iv just had a real bad day we all get them but i just need to get it done
Me? Oh no..you don't wanna let me near it  ;D

Sounded like you were offering your services

That would be a sure fire way of ensuring it never ran again  ;)

Have i missed something or have i found my brother from another mother distroyer
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #24 on: 24 February 2017, 21:35:47 »

You have removed the cam lock?
;D ;D ;D
You laugh... I had a hell of a job trying to turn the crank first time I tried it on my own... turns out I had left the car in gear and couldn't turn the crank any further than the slop in the flywheel :-[

Point is, don't overlook the obvious ;)
I know samebody else doing the same. ;  ::) :-[
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #25 on: 24 February 2017, 22:03:42 »

I was going to try to post up a how to but thought this link would offer better guidance. It might not be the correct engine code so you will have to take note of your cam markings and alignment marks but the principle is the same.
If you are re-timing it, be VERY careful when repositioning the crank as this is where you can cause damage. DO NOT force anything in to position.
If you have less idlers than the example shown, the principle is still the same regarding the timing marks.

http://replace-timing-belt.com/how-to-replace-timing-belt-on-vauxhallopel-frontera-b-2-2i/

Good luck.  :y
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #26 on: 24 February 2017, 22:10:42 »

Let's start simply

Set the crank to 90 degrees before or after TDC, then set the cams and lock them. Then set the crank to TDC and fit the cambelt
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #27 on: 24 February 2017, 22:24:25 »

Thank you EVERYONE for your help i have managed to get myself a copy of autodata this evening and this has given me the exact same info so plan is

1) Restart by removing Belt

2) manually time engine up to TDC as per

Let's start simply

Set the crank to 90 degrees before or after TDC, then set the cams and lock them. Then set the crank to TDC and fit the cambelt

3) Follow instructions/autodata to the t again

I was going to try to post up a how to but thought this link would offer better guidance. It might not be the correct engine code so you will have to take note of your cam markings and alignment marks but the principle is the same.
If you are re-timing it, be VERY careful when repositioning the crank as this is where you can cause damage. DO NOT force anything in to position.
If you have less idlers than the example shown, the principle is still the same regarding the timing marks.

http://replace-timing-belt.com/how-to-replace-timing-belt-on-vauxhallopel-frontera-b-2-2i/

Good luck.  :y

4) Hope and pray once reassembled and hand turned

Wish me Luck  :y
« Last Edit: 24 February 2017, 22:38:05 by Elite_L0ver »
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #28 on: 24 February 2017, 22:37:10 »

I was going to try to post up a how to but thought this link would offer better guidance. It might not be the correct engine code so you will have to take note of your cam markings and alignment marks but the principle is the same.
If you are re-timing it, be VERY careful when repositioning the crank as this is where you can cause damage. DO NOT force anything in to position.
If you have less idlers than the example shown, the principle is still the same regarding the timing marks.

http://replace-timing-belt.com/how-to-replace-timing-belt-on-vauxhallopel-frontera-b-2-2i/

Good luck.  :y

Thank you EVERYONE i managed to get myself a copy of autodata this evening and this has given me the exact same info so plan is

1) Restart by removing Belt
2) manually time engine up to TDC
3) Follow above instructions/autodata to the t again
4) Hope and pray once reassembled

Wish me Luck  :y

Let's start simply

Set the crank to 90 degrees before or after TDC, then set the cams and lock them. Then set the crank to TDC and fit the cambelt

Follow Mark's advice above regarding setting the crank to a safe position first though.  :y
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Re: Iv fooked it i think
« Reply #29 on: 24 February 2017, 22:39:48 »

I was going to try to post up a how to but thought this link would offer better guidance. It might not be the correct engine code so you will have to take note of your cam markings and alignment marks but the principle is the same.
If you are re-timing it, be VERY careful when repositioning the crank as this is where you can cause damage. DO NOT force anything in to position.
If you have less idlers than the example shown, the principle is still the same regarding the timing marks.

http://replace-timing-belt.com/how-to-replace-timing-belt-on-vauxhallopel-frontera-b-2-2i/

Good luck.  :y

Thank you EVERYONE i managed to get myself a copy of autodata this evening and this has given me the exact same info so plan is

1) Restart by removing Belt
2) manually time engine up to TDC
3) Follow above instructions/autodata to the t again
4) Hope and pray once reassembled

Wish me Luck  :y

Let's start simply

Set the crank to 90 degrees before or after TDC, then set the cams and lock them. Then set the crank to TDC and fit the cambelt

Follow Mark's advice above regarding setting the crank to a safe position first though.  :y

I was editing to say that but i will let you know how it goes :y :P ;D
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