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[joff]

If I fit another pump to the brothers Elite estate does it need to go on Tech2 to tell the ECU or are they plug and play

[VXL V6]

Has to come from an identical car afaik. So another 2.2DTi Omega, one off any other application requires reprogramming but a Tech II cant do it.

[joff]

Has to come from an identical car afaik. So another 2.2DTi Omega, one off any other application requires reprogramming but a Tech II cant do it.

So as long as it from an Omega 2.2dti it's plug and play

[05omegav6]

That's certainly how I read it

[VXL V6]

Has to come from an identical car afaik. So another 2.2DTi Omega, one off any other application requires reprogramming but a Tech II cant do it.

So as long as it from an Omega 2.2dti it's plug and play

Yes....

But do you want to fit a used (probably around the same mileage) pump?

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Depends, I suppose. If it's of the same mileage, then yes, probably not a great idea. On the other hand, father fitted a decent used lift pump to the Turbo Weasel (now my Turbo Weasel) that's now giving up the ghost - its lasted 2 years, and most likely cost a tenner. I've been given another lift pump the other week. Again, used, but known decent.

What £ are they on Trade Club new?

[joff]

The DTI does not have a lift pump just the engine one, and I would think a new pump is more than the car is worth. I think the 2.5 TD had a lift pump. Asked on the bay about a secondhand one and they want £180

[Diamond Black Geezer]

£180?!?!?!? WHAT?! Well surely, at £180 you could get one off another Omega, and then pay to have it 'coded' to your car for less? We'll sort something, don't worry. 

For £180 you could get a whole new engine. 

I get angry at stupid high prices, driving people to scrap their cars, thus adding to the landfill of the world, sorry.

[andyc]

Well a new GM pump is around £1600.00 so £180.00 for a good second hand one is a bargin

Andy

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Ouch.  Thanks for the info Andy

Right, I'm buying every 2.2DTi off ebay I see, and sell the pumps off 'em!

[omegod]

Last one I had went for £160 and I've had numerous requests for them since. No coding required either I believe. Tbh dti manuals ( with known good pumps) break very well !

[Diamond Black Geezer]

If someone, such as the good Mr Andy C or Omegod etc can confirm that any Vauxhall 2.2DTi engine fuel pump will work on an Omega, I will get down my local scrappy and have a look for you. Not much chance, but a chance nonetheless, Joff 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Ok, it seems according to Opel Parts Base, that there are three fuel pumps,

9119221 used on
Frontera B
Omega B
Sintra

9193454 / 9196993 / R1590041
Astra G
Zafira A
Omega B
Vectra B

24413104 / 9199204 / R1590050
Omega B
Vectra B

Question is... which is yours, and will any other other fit?? Trying to help all I can mate - hope any will 'do' in spite of their different part numbers. Seems no mention of Vectra C, which appears to be different altogether 

[joff]

If someone, such as the good Mr Andy C or Omegod etc can confirm that any Vauxhall 2.2DTi engine fuel pump will work on an Omega, I will get down my local scrappy and have a look for you. Not much chance, but a chance nonetheless, Joff 

Very kind thank you, this is my brothers car which I first got for the wife a few years back now, has had most jobs done on it but this may be the end of it for us as I got hold of a 2.2 petrol saloon for him on Sunday with only 69K on it,

It still runs but is in get you home slowly mode with the EML on, car may be going as is, if he can make up his mind, he would have to take his plate off it first.

[andyc]

9119221/9193454/9196993/R1590041 are all listed for X22DTH/X20DTL/X20DTH on various models

24413104/R1590050 go over to 9199204 which is the only number fir a Y22DTH and the Y22DTH is the one fitted to the Omega so look for any of these three numbers

Andy

[hawke113a]

ive got a 2002 2.2 cdx saloon which is gonna need a pump...the one on it hs gone....wont be till i get my 2.5 elite running again tho

[joff]

ive got a 2002 2.2 cdx saloon which is gonna need a pump...the one on it hs gone....wont be till i get my 2.5 elite running again tho

Is that a DTI 2.2

[omegod]

If someone, such as the good Mr Andy C or Omegod etc can confirm that any Vauxhall 2.2DTi engine fuel pump will work on an Omega, I will get down my local scrappy and have a look for you. Not much chance, but a chance nonetheless, Joff 

Question is how do you know they are useable, as they are high value for a used part I only sell them if I can vouch for them having been ok by either knowing the car or using it myself for a reasonable time.

[joff]

9119221/9193454/9196993/R1590041 are all listed for X22DTH/X20DTL/X20DTH on various models

24413104/R1590050 go over to 9199204 which is the only number fir a Y22DTH and the Y22DTH is the one fitted to the Omega so look for any of these three numbers

Andy

Will have to check the number on the elite pump

[VXL V6]

If someone, such as the good Mr Andy C or Omegod etc can confirm that any Vauxhall 2.2DTi engine fuel pump will work on an Omega, I will get down my local scrappy and have a look for you. Not much chance, but a chance nonetheless, Joff 

Question is how do you know they are useable, as they are high value for a used part I only sell them if I can vouch for them having been ok by either knowing the car or using it myself for a reasonable time.

Yeh, spot on, although they do just go with no previous warning i've found. 

If it's just the EDC that is at fault I think it's far better to get that repaired than mess about trying to swap the whole pump off a DTi.

To Diamond Black - As per my first post,it has to be a pump off a 2.2DTi Omega, there is no crossover afaik, even the Y22DTR Vectra 2.2 version is different, trust me, been there, got the T-Shirt. I would put money on 99% of DTi's (in any Vauxhall) are in a scrapyard because of Pump or Pump EDC failure, therefore you'd be wasting your effort removing one from a scrap vehicle.

Oh and the other 1% are there because of crank pulley failure! 
 

[joff]

If someone, such as the good Mr Andy C or Omegod etc can confirm that any Vauxhall 2.2DTi engine fuel pump will work on an Omega, I will get down my local scrappy and have a look for you. Not much chance, but a chance nonetheless, Joff 

Question is how do you know they are useable, as they are high value for a used part I only sell them if I can vouch for them having been ok by either knowing the car or using it myself for a reasonable time.

Yeh, spot on, although they do just go with no previous warning i've found. 

If it's just the EDC that is at fault I think it's far better to get that repaired than mess about trying to swap the whole pump off a DTi.

To Diamond Black - As per my first post,it has to be a pump off a 2.2DTi Omega, there is no crossover afaik, even the Y22DTR Vectra 2.2 version is different, trust me, been there, got the T-Shirt. I would put money on 99% of DTi's (in any Vauxhall) are in a scrapyard because of Pump or Pump EDC failure, therefore you'd be wasting your effort removing one from a scrap vehicle.

Oh and the other 1% are there because of crank pulley failure! 

Crank pulley is about £400 new I think

[Magwheels]

£83 and half hour job!

[VXL V6]

£83 and half hour job!

Depends if you go genuine GM or not, had two none genuine ones fail, although the failure is often caused by a failed tensioner which will need to be replaced as well.

Incidently, My local garage who does my MOT's has had five Audi's in with Crank pulley failure in the space of two weeks... At least it's not a VX exclusive club! 

[TheBoy]

Ok, it seems according to Opel Parts Base, that there are three fuel pumps,

9119221 used on
Frontera B
Omega B
Sintra

9193454 / 9196993 / R1590041
Astra G
Zafira A
Omega B
Vectra B

24413104 / 9199204 / R1590050
Omega B
Vectra B

Question is... which is yours, and will any other other fit?? Trying to help all I can mate - hope any will 'do' in spite of their different part numbers. Seems no mention of Vectra C, which appears to be different altogether 

Be cautious using online parts guides, most of them are desperately incorrect.

[Magwheels]

£83 and half hour job!

Depends if you go genuine GM or not, had two none genuine ones fail, although the failure is often caused by a failed tensioner which will need to be replaced as well.

Incidently, My local garage who does my MOT's has had five Audi's in with Crank pulley failure in the space of two weeks... At least it's not a VX exclusive club! 

They fail all the time, genuine or not.

A modern solution to a problem that didn't exist!!!

A bit like DMF's

[VXL V6]

Yes, agreed.

Actually the Omega DMF's are pretty robust compared to others out there.

[Magwheels]

Yes, agreed.

Actually the Omega DMF's are pretty robust compared to others out there.

Tis true, thing is on here you really only hear about the problem stuff......mostly.

But at least they are easy to work on!!

AND I did see on one website (I think a SAAB one0 somebody changed the CMOS (if I remember) in the pump ecu on a diy basis and it worked fine.

Cheap as chips if done that way.

[Elite Pete]

I've just sold a used pump for £125 after having it on eBay for months without a single sniff so it might be worth you making silly offers for the ones still on ebay

[Magwheels]

It was this one.

http://www.rrkb.lv/musings/?p=42

Sorry about the previous typing, I was trying to do it in between playing World of Tanks!!

[hawke113a]

hi joff...as far as i know its a dti....but not sure...so if anyone has a pump for about 150 mark...let me know 

[omega3000]

There was a diesel tank an pump for sale on the bay this week .. not sure if
it was dti though 

[henryd]

Actually there are a few pumps on the bay ranging from a couple of hundred up to fifteen hundred quid ,not sure which ones are omega suitable though as didnt read the adds through