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General Discussion Area / Re: Parliament to be suspended
« on: 29 August 2019, 20:01:06 »
Another important part of our constitution is the presidents & procedures on how Parliament works. I recently bought myself a slightly out of date 2nd hand book on this as the latest versions are expensive.
As mentioned earlier our unwritten constitution can updated by simple Commons majorities, this is a blessing as it allows sensible changes to be made and also a potential danger & possible curse if you've got a parliament, say lead by a terrorist loving Marxist, that by a simple majority can abolishing our democracy & turn us into a one party state.
What has become clear with Brexit is where our parliament has been so enfeebled & undermined here & likewise in all EU states that most of the current crop of MPs are quite incapable of anything beyond virtual signaling, gesture, identity politics so most can't run the country or make decisions which means they can't do the job they are elected for or earn their salaries and 'creative' monthly expenses.
Once parliament were progued for the summer break Dominic Cummings pointed out that it was now too late to stop Brexit. If Boris lost a vote of no confidence (by no means certain) he then has 14 days to either resign or to try & get a majority vote to continue or call a general election. Realistically, the earliest this vote could be held is early November once we have left the EU on WTO terms. The only way remain MPs can now stop Brexit is by revoking Article 50 which would finish the careers of most of the politicians who went down that route. What has changed in the polls since Boris became PM is the Conservative polling, where they are the lead party again with 30%+ & the collapse of Labour where they are hovering around 20%. I suspect what will really hit Labour hard will be the Northern vote, who will never vote Tory because of the miners strike but will the Brexit party where they were the most dominate Leave areas in the UK.
Although parliament is sovereign the whole strength of democracy is that we get to hire & fire them every 5 years through the ballot box & this has a considerable moderating effect on what governments & MPs do where they want to be reelected again. Major's ERM fiasco, Maastricht Treaty shenanigans & general incompetence lead to their 1997 ballot box hammering & to 13 years & an incompetent PM with Gordon 'no more boom or bust' McRuin before the Tories got a sniff of power in 2010 with a minority government & coalition.
I suspect the next few weeks are going to be interesting but master strategist Dominic Commings & Boris have certainly taken the initiative, made the right strategic calls so far & put remain MPs of their back foot & if they keep doing this I think the odds will be on Boris' side in getting this over the line.
One this is certain is that UK politics will never be the same again & I live in hope that this if for the better.
Where it has been mentioned the our parliament is sovereign this is not strictly true until we leave the EU as EU law & ECJ rulings currently take precedence over UK law until we leave & have repealed the 1986 Single European Act.
As mentioned earlier our unwritten constitution can updated by simple Commons majorities, this is a blessing as it allows sensible changes to be made and also a potential danger & possible curse if you've got a parliament, say lead by a terrorist loving Marxist, that by a simple majority can abolishing our democracy & turn us into a one party state.
What has become clear with Brexit is where our parliament has been so enfeebled & undermined here & likewise in all EU states that most of the current crop of MPs are quite incapable of anything beyond virtual signaling, gesture, identity politics so most can't run the country or make decisions which means they can't do the job they are elected for or earn their salaries and 'creative' monthly expenses.
Once parliament were progued for the summer break Dominic Cummings pointed out that it was now too late to stop Brexit. If Boris lost a vote of no confidence (by no means certain) he then has 14 days to either resign or to try & get a majority vote to continue or call a general election. Realistically, the earliest this vote could be held is early November once we have left the EU on WTO terms. The only way remain MPs can now stop Brexit is by revoking Article 50 which would finish the careers of most of the politicians who went down that route. What has changed in the polls since Boris became PM is the Conservative polling, where they are the lead party again with 30%+ & the collapse of Labour where they are hovering around 20%. I suspect what will really hit Labour hard will be the Northern vote, who will never vote Tory because of the miners strike but will the Brexit party where they were the most dominate Leave areas in the UK.
Although parliament is sovereign the whole strength of democracy is that we get to hire & fire them every 5 years through the ballot box & this has a considerable moderating effect on what governments & MPs do where they want to be reelected again. Major's ERM fiasco, Maastricht Treaty shenanigans & general incompetence lead to their 1997 ballot box hammering & to 13 years & an incompetent PM with Gordon 'no more boom or bust' McRuin before the Tories got a sniff of power in 2010 with a minority government & coalition.
I suspect the next few weeks are going to be interesting but master strategist Dominic Commings & Boris have certainly taken the initiative, made the right strategic calls so far & put remain MPs of their back foot & if they keep doing this I think the odds will be on Boris' side in getting this over the line.
One this is certain is that UK politics will never be the same again & I live in hope that this if for the better.
Where it has been mentioned the our parliament is sovereign this is not strictly true until we leave the EU as EU law & ECJ rulings currently take precedence over UK law until we leave & have repealed the 1986 Single European Act.
How long before there is a Terry thread on: How do I replace the batteries in my 200k mile very cheap ev? 
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Only spend time in rich premier league footballer friendly decadent Macclesfield where my older brother lives & run notable PC shop Tim's Megastore until he retired 4yrs ago. A Conservative party enclave in an area of Liebour mediatority!