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[05omegav6]

Chap at work has a Passat TDI 170 which has just snapped its cambelt... Is it a safe engine or is it scrap?

Only two and a quarter years since it was last changed, but he can't remember the mileage that he's done since



Was changed by VW with a two year guarantee is trying a warranty claim, but suspect that the two getout clauses will be

1. The tensioners failed because they weren't changed because you didn't ask us to...

or

2. The water pump started leaking which caused the tensioner bearings to fail. We didn't change the pump because we weren't asked to...

[henryd]

Its not a safe engine Al,it will have done damage

[05omegav6]

Ho diddly dum. Thanks Henry I won't tell him just incase he hangs himself
You could have knocked him over with a feather when he got the news of when it was changed. He was adamant it was less than two years, although he's probably over on the mileage as well.

If you thought Omegas were a moneypit, that car has had a new primary fuel pump(replaced a momth after it started playing up), a tandem fuelpump(killed by compensating for the primary one), a new battery(killed by trying to start the car with two dead fuel pumps), and now the cambelt(which probably gave up from trying to start the car with two dead fuel pumps), and all since Christmas

Time for a new owner perhaps

[Marks DTM Calib]

Bad news, they often crimp the rings on those ones to. A real crap engine the 2.0 diesel, such a change from the pd which was very good.

I can't think of any safe engines these days, the closest you get are the likes of the fiat 1.9`s where they fracture the rockers avoiding valve damage (most of the time)

[05omegav6]

The whole car is a shining example of all the worst VW parts in one place

When he bought it I suggested he swapped it for an 1.8 Vectra estate, but he knew best...he didn't have it six months before all four injectors failed at £500 each. If I were a betting man, I would put a reasonable wedge on the DSG box being next

[Marks DTM Calib]

Jesus, DSG as well, one born every minute 

Assuming this is a taxi?

Was picked up from Heathrow in a Skoda with a DSG just before Xmas, 70k on the clock and the changes were bloody rough.

[05omegav6]

Yup

Owner is  the type of person who drives a VW because he couldn't afford anthey're not as pretenious as Audis, but still looks down on everyone else

I occasionally feel an uncontrollable urge to remind him that I can re engine the Omega for the price of one VW injector and that one accident notwithstanding, my 240k Omega has only been recovered twice, both times due to clutch failure. Last count, his 'far superior' grotbox has been recovered at least 8 times, and it's two years newer

[Andy B]

Jesus, DSG as well, one born every minute 

Assuming this is a taxi?

Was picked up from Heathrow in a Skoda with a DSG just before Xmas, 70k on the clock and the changes were bloody rough.

Vauxhall's Easytronic doesn't appear any better. A mate bought an Easytronic Vectra a couple of years from a dealer to be used as a taxi. He'd not had it 5 mins when the dealer had it back for gearbox problems. They changed the 'box under warranty but it failed again recently ........ He's now got a Focus. The Vectra was 'the worse car' he'd ever owned.
eBay seems to have more than its fair share of Easytronic Corsas 

[05omegav6]

Vectra Cs are a bit like that, the 16 valve diesels and the 2.2 petrols being particularly poor

Alot of 1.6 diesel Focuses with around 100k and knackered engines on the 'bay too...

Whoever said modern cars are better needs reprogramming me thinks

[Marks DTM Calib]

Jesus, DSG as well, one born every minute 

Assuming this is a taxi?

Was picked up from Heathrow in a Skoda with a DSG just before Xmas, 70k on the clock and the changes were bloody rough.

Vauxhall's Easytronic doesn't appear any better. A mate bought an Easytronic Vectra a couple of years from a dealer to be used as a taxi. He'd not had it 5 mins when the dealer had it back for gearbox problems. They changed the 'box under warranty but it failed again recently ........ He's now got a Focus. The Vectra was 'the worse car' he'd ever owned.
eBay seems to have more than its fair share of Easytronic Corsas 

Easytronic is not sold as a premium solution and the only issue it had was the clutch actuator (easily fixed if your competent) module.

The DSG is sold as a sports premium gearbox, weighs a shit load and gobbles clutches and syncros. They do offer a proper auto at less cost, again, a fool and his money

[Andy B]

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Easytronic is not sold as a premium solution and the only issue it had was the clutch actuator (easily fixed if your competent) module.

I've never looked into them properly. Sounds similar kind of set up to SWMBO's Smart. 

The DSG is sold as a sports premium gearbox, weighs a shit load and gobbles clutches and syncros.

True! I wasn't particularly impressed by it when I drove the courtesy DSG PAssat that SWMBO was lent.

They do offer a proper auto at less cost, again, a fool and his money

That's a well kept secret!

[Marks DTM Calib]

The easytronic is a manual box with actuators same as a Smart

[Andy B]

The easytronic is a manual box with actuators same as a Smart

I'd realised ....... I was thinking more along the lines of doing something with the actuator if need be. By rights, a Smart's actuator/clutch needs setting up via Star (MB's Tech II) afterwards.

[Kevin Wood]

Sounds like it's time to grow a third leg if planning on owning a car after the Omega's generation is dead .

[Andy B]

Sounds like it's time to grow a third leg if planning on owning a car after the Omega's generation is dead .

No chance! 
Still plenty of proper autos around ...... they just have a lot more gears than the kind of boxes fitted to things like Omegas. My R Class is a torque converter type & has 7 ........ & I know the box isn't without its own problems. 

[henryd]

Bad news, they often crimp the rings on those ones to. A real crap engine the 2.0 diesel, such a change from the pd which was very good.

I can't think of any safe engines these days, the closest you get are the likes of the fiat 1.9`s where they fracture the rockers avoiding valve damage (most of the time)

The older Pug 2.0hdi's will do that too if you're lucky