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[05omegav6]

I know...

Basically both cars need tyres soon... 18"s have about 1500 miles left and are on my daily plod bus. 16"s two have about 1000 miles left and two are, umm, barely legal, and are on my currently un Motd Elite. Ultimately they will be swapped, but not this week.

Budget being such as it is, I can get decent (5+mm) used winter tyres in both sizes for around £120-150 a set. In 16" black and round new tyres start at about £40, 18"s about £50 but would prefer to bide my time and replace current Goodyears like for like.

The 16"s are Runway Enduros, but given that they are utterly unobtainable, I need to look elsewhere...

Can get new 16" Acclera winters for £45 each... Anyone any experience of them? Thinking they can go on the daily for the winter. Or would I be better off getting part worn decent tyres, winter or otherwise? Have heard good things about Michelin Alpins and had Continental winters on the Merc to good effect, just not sure about the whole second hand tyre thing

[biggriffin]

1st why do you need winter tyres, are you going on an European trek in the snow?

If answer is no just buy something to last untill, you can afford nice new black shiney ones.

[tunnie]

I currently run two sets of second hand tyres on the 2.2, set of Kuhmo KU31s for general use. For my personal requirements they have been excellent. For set of 4 they cost me £100, had 6mm of tread and came on CDX alloys. Fitted 3 years ago, no problem. Bought off the forum 

Also got a set of Goodyear Winter Sport 3Ds which I bought for Austria road trip, driven over a couple of thousand miles in snow, slush and ice. You could really feel the extra traction they brought, really "gripping and pulling" through even fairly deep snow. Again almost new £120 set on CD alloys, again a forum purchase 

Not sure I'd buy another set of winters, just for UK use though.  While they would track and pull well, all the other morons in Audi's and such, will block up the roads, so you are stuffed. In Europe, they all have them, so progress can be made. No gridlock like here

[STEMO]

Don't let Mr DTM hear you, he's.......erm........not too keen on part worns.

[STEMO]

BTW.....I got 4 General Tire (yank) 16's on wifey so car, £50 a corner and seem fine.

http://www.barnsley-tyres.co.uk/TyreSearch/Details/9015/General+Altimax+Sport+20555R16

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Winter tyres?.......fine if you live in the north of Sweden or Canada.

We didn't need winter tyres in the good old days. Driver skill was all that was required.

We should all be dead and buried....yet we seem to have survived survive without ABS....Traction control......ESP, and all that crap.  

[Shackeng]

Years ago when short of cash, and covering a fair mileage each year, I used part worns for about five years, and never had a problem. I understand the concerns about hidden damage to sidewalls etc., but careful examination should, in the main, eliminate any worries.

[EMD]

My 2 winter tyres on the rear are still on from last winter 

[Terbs]

Winter tyres?.......fine if you live in the north of Sweden or Canada.

We didn't need winter tyres in the good old days. Driver skill was all that was required.

We should all be dead and buried....yet we seem to have survived without ABS....Traction control......ESP, and all that crap.

Oh so very true, good Doctor

[johnnydog]

Some used tyre places sell tyres that look ok i.e. good brand with good tread, but have had vulcanised repairs to the shoulder area, where most manufacturers don't recommended / tyre outlets won't repair due to being right on the sidewall. Due to the flexing of the sidewall, I would avoid any tyre with any repair in this area.
Many come from Europe where the tread depth regs are different, and I know it goes without saying, but I would check any used tyre very very carefully before being fitted for being repaired near the sidewall.
If any used tyre has good tread depth, there always a good reason why it's been previously removed / replaced.
I would avoid them unless your wallet deems it necessary.

[05omegav6]

Presumably pressure tested ok and non repaired ie no repairs needed with as much tread as possible is about as much as can be hoped for

Is a half worn premium tyre a better bet than a no name black and round new tyre?

[Sir Tigger KC]

Can get new 16" Acclera winters for £45 each... Anyone any experience of them? Thinking they can go on the daily for the winter.

If you're thinking of cheap winters, then I wouldn't bother dicking about changing them in the spring. 

Just leave them on until they're shagged.   You might find that they're a better all round budget tyre anyway. 

[05omegav6]

Can get new 16" Acclera winters for £45 each... Anyone any experience of them? Thinking they can go on the daily for the winter.

If you're thinking of cheap winters, then I wouldn't bother dicking about changing them in the spring. 

Just leave them on until they're shagged.   You might find that they're a better all round budget tyre anyway. 

Makes sense that, which helps refine the question slightly... Are half worn Michelin Alpins or similar for £140-160 a better proposition than new Acceleras for £180...

Decisions, decisions

[Sir Tigger KC]

That depends how skint you are. 

[05omegav6]

Lol

[biggriffin]

Or is this thread like fishing

The bait has been cast, just waiting for a bite, from the rare species'" twixit flounced"

[05omegav6]

Ha... You cynical sod

Is/was a legitimate question

[TheBoy]

Presumably pressure tested ok and non repaired ie no repairs needed with as much tread as possible is about as much as can be hoped for

Is a half worn premium tyre a better bet than a no name black and round new tyre?

Not knowing history is a problem. Non visible sidewall damage due to being run under inflated? Damage due to I sense shock?

I'm not saying don't? But a tyre isn't simply black and round and legal tread.

Part worns are *NEVER* cost effective compared to new

[STEMO]

As I've said in previous threads, if you buy a used car, you are buying used tyres, and I don't see people rushing out to put new ones on.

[TheBoy]

As I've said in previous threads, if you buy a used car, you are buying used tyres, and I don't see people rushing out to put new ones on.

I believe there is more risk with a part worn, not that a used car is risk free obviously.

Why was a 2/3rds worn tyre with 5mm left removed?

Additionally, as I've said in previous threads (forgetting niche applications), it never works out cheaper in the long term

[05omegav6]

So seeing as partworns, branded or otherwise, are an unknown shit sandwich, and new wanklinglislippysailgrip are also an unknown shit sandwich...

Which shit sandwich do you choose?

If I were looking purely for value for money, I would go with Autonogrips... if only because they are almost impossible to wear out, so cost per mile would be almost zero.

The winter question is a secondary one, being considered for three reasons... 1. I have 5am starts, which means leaving the house at 3.30, which is potentially before the gritters. 2. Even with last winters lack of winter, the winter tyres on the E Class made a noticeable difference compared to the budget tyres I had fitted to it. 3. Part worn winter tyres strike me as being a bit more useful than part worn normal tyres.

[biggriffin]

A lot of part works, come from das Reich, and the Nordic countries, were they use to allways change tyres on pairs, it might have been an mot type thing.
 gets ready to be corrected.

[05omegav6]

A lot of part works, come from das Reich, and the Nordic countries, were they use to allways change tyres on pairs, it might have been an mot type thing.
 gets ready to be corrected.

Makes sense... Also worth noting that some people will spend a small fortune getting a car through an MoT: new brakes, new tyres, new exhaust etc... only to scrap it a month or so later because the aircon stops working

[pauls]

A lot of part works, come from das Reich, and the Nordic countries, were they use to allways change tyres on pairs, it might have been an mot type thing.
 gets ready to be corrected.

Makes sense... Also worth noting that some people will spend a small fortune getting a car through an MoT: new brakes, new tyres, new exhaust etc... only to scrap it a month or so later because the aircon stops working

Our local guy gets all his tyres from germany he said over there it 3mm legal limit so plenty of tread left for over here.

[Rods2]

At one time I was able to get demounts for about 60% of new price, where a summer produced car was being exported to a winter tyre county for a winter fulfilled customer order. This seemed to me a good compromise on price v risk.

[STEMO]

There was a fella used to offer 'new' contis on eBay. They were about half price.  I went up to North Yorkshire to get four and he told me he had the contract to replace any flat tyres on cars that had come off the ships and were parked at the docks. Most had just taken a knock whilst unloading and come off the rim or picked up a puncture while being driven off.