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Re: Autonomous cars
« Reply #30 on: 10 February 2020, 22:08:20 »

Money is the explanation. And the only reason we all go to work whether its around the corner or 100 miles away.
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« Reply #31 on: 11 February 2020, 05:19:25 »

I was about to say 'because we can', but the financial incentive carries some weight, especially if Lundun is involved. That said, moving can outweigh the cost of commuting.
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« Reply #32 on: 11 February 2020, 07:42:17 »

When I say signal I mean over the ether via this 5g.  Something along the lines of “ I see you are waiting to come out. OK I will decrease speed to allow a big enough event window, GO” at thesame time it would advise following vehicles so they didnt all panic brake .  It would work pretty well if there were no bugs in the software!

The Highway code would need  rewriting anyway to suit the bulk of vehicles being autonomous.

Its already happening, V2X, 5G ish which is based around comms to other cars and infrastructure, likely to be a requirement in some countries as of 2024.

As for autonomous, its still some way off, proving to be a lot harder then people expected, look for level 3 first (lots of 2 about already)
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Re: Autonomous cars
« Reply #33 on: 11 February 2020, 08:07:42 »

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how does that explain living in one town and driving to, and from, another town 50miles away? ....

Cos factories close as big companies buy similar firms & close down some to save money (& pocket pension funds) .... so workers find similar jobs elsewhere & commute to them (like Tebbit told us to years ago) which is why I now drive 25 miles each way to work rather than the couple of miles I used to do
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Re: Autonomous cars
« Reply #34 on: 23 February 2020, 09:48:03 »

An interesting topic. Personally I welcome the advancement in autonomous vehicles. We already have plenty of inolvement from technology in most modern vehicles. Don't get me wrong I love driving but as the cause of most accidents are the drivers, take them out of the equation. Autonomous cars would stick to the speed limits, use the correct lane around roundabouts assess the stopping distances correctly, be able to accelerate into a gap more accurately, know their width through a gap, will not be distracted by children in the back seat, etc.etc. As for taxi drivers most of them should have their licences revoked. Admittedly software can be hacked but a terrorist could hijack a fuel truck easier.
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Re: Autonomous cars
« Reply #35 on: 23 February 2020, 09:55:53 »

An interesting topic. Personally I welcome the advancement in autonomous vehicles. We already have plenty of inolvement from technology in most modern vehicles. Don't get me wrong I love driving but as the cause of most accidents are the drivers, take them out of the equation. Autonomous cars would stick to the speed limits, use the correct lane around roundabouts assess the stopping distances correctly, be able to accelerate into a gap more accurately, know their width through a gap, will not be distracted by children in the back seat, etc.etc. As for taxi drivers most of them should have their licences revoked. Admittedly software can be hacked but a terrorist could hijack a fuel truck easier.

ermm... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/02/19/self-driving-tesla-tricked-speeding-using-terrifying-hack/

Drivers are far from perfect (and getting worse since we've been issuing licences to snowflakes) but I think there's a way to go yet!
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Re: Autonomous cars
« Reply #36 on: 23 February 2020, 21:25:26 »

I wouldn't worry so much about terrorists hacking the system to use them as a weapon more the spotty "yoofs" sitting in the bedrooms hacking them and playing Grand Theft Auto[other games are available] for real.
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Re: Autonomous cars
« Reply #37 on: 24 February 2020, 10:52:46 »

Effective, reliable autonomous cars would remove the need for speed limits.
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« Reply #38 on: 24 February 2020, 11:12:01 »

Effective, reliable autonomous cars would remove the need for speed limits.

And traffic lights, and any other controls imposed on humans.

They're also going to need to have no windows, or we'll all be having heart attacks at every junction when nobody slows down and everyone passes within inches, e.g. https://youtu.be/UVQ8bGvLkCA?t=56
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Re: Autonomous cars
« Reply #39 on: 24 February 2020, 11:24:54 »

Effective, reliable autonomous cars would remove the need for speed limits.

And traffic lights, and any other controls imposed on humans.

They're also going to need to have no windows, or we'll all be having heart attacks at every junction when nobody slows down and everyone passes within inches, e.g. https://youtu.be/UVQ8bGvLkCA?t=56


all of which makes them an All Or Nothing proposition.
I don't expect to live long enough to see it.
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Re: Autonomous cars
« Reply #40 on: 24 February 2020, 11:27:38 »

Effective, reliable autonomous cars would remove the need for speed limits.

And traffic lights, and any other controls imposed on humans.

They're also going to need to have no windows, or we'll all be having heart attacks at every junction when nobody slows down and everyone passes within inches, e.g. https://youtu.be/UVQ8bGvLkCA?t=56


all of which makes them an All Or Nothing proposition.
I don't expect to live long enough to see it.
That's right, Nick. We can't have a mix of autonomous and human drivers on the road at the same time because the rules would be different for both.
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« Reply #41 on: 24 February 2020, 12:23:40 »

all of which makes them an All Or Nothing proposition.
I don't expect to live long enough to see it.

I absolutely agree with you - both on general principles and as someone whose worked in IT for far longer than I care to remember. Computers are only any good at dealing with other computers, humans in the mix always causes problems.

Of course computers also tend to be programmed by humans. That also causes problems ;D
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