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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #90 on: 09 December 2018, 10:05:06 »

OOF seemed a bit slow earlier, so I just assumed the hamster in its yellow jacket had escaped and was rioting in Paris all weekend. ::) ::) ::)
We're currently back on SAS spinny drives for a bit, following a controller glitch on the SSDs (which are SATA)

Scratch chin, why would SSDs make a difference as I would expect the reverse with slower HDDs with possible queue buffer overflow?
It looked like the SATA controller lockup, rather than the SSD, but hard to prove, hence having non critical stuff on the SATA SSDs to get confidence back. Some of HPE's firmwares over the past couple of years do leave a lot to be desired :(

So we're on the SAS controllers, well away from anything SATA, for a bit.  None of the SAS stuff has shown any issues.

We do not use SATA hard drives, because they are universally rubbish when it comes to performance - I guarantee if I swapped out the SAS for SATA, we'd see disk latencies measured in seconds, once the caches were exhausted.
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #91 on: 09 December 2018, 13:26:31 »

OOF seemed a bit slow earlier, so I just assumed the hamster in its yellow jacket had escaped and was rioting in Paris all weekend. ::) ::) ::)
We're currently back on SAS spinny drives for a bit, following a controller glitch on the SSDs (which are SATA)

Scratch chin, why would SSDs make a difference as I would expect the reverse with slower HDDs with possible queue buffer overflow?
It looked like the SATA controller lockup, rather than the SSD, but hard to prove, hence having non critical stuff on the SATA SSDs to get confidence back. Some of HPE's firmwares over the past couple of years do leave a lot to be desired :(

So we're on the SAS controllers, well away from anything SATA, for a bit.  None of the SAS stuff has shown any issues.

We do not use SATA hard drives, because they are universally rubbish when it comes to performance - I guarantee if I swapped out the SAS for SATA, we'd see disk latencies measured in seconds, once the caches were exhausted.

Keep talking sexy TB; send in the wonderful SAS they will usually win through and resolve all issues! :D :D :D ;)
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #92 on: 09 December 2018, 19:40:58 »

OOF seemed a bit slow earlier, so I just assumed the hamster in its yellow jacket had escaped and was rioting in Paris all weekend. ::) ::) ::)
We're currently back on SAS spinny drives for a bit, following a controller glitch on the SSDs (which are SATA)

Scratch chin, why would SSDs make a difference as I would expect the reverse with slower HDDs with possible queue buffer overflow?
It looked like the SATA controller lockup, rather than the SSD, but hard to prove, hence having non critical stuff on the SATA SSDs to get confidence back. Some of HPE's firmwares over the past couple of years do leave a lot to be desired :(

So we're on the SAS controllers, well away from anything SATA, for a bit.  None of the SAS stuff has shown any issues.

We do not use SATA hard drives, because they are universally rubbish when it comes to performance - I guarantee if I swapped out the SAS for SATA, we'd see disk latencies measured in seconds, once the caches were exhausted.

Keep talking sexy TB; send in the wonderful SAS they will usually win through and resolve all issues! :D :D :D ;)

You have a strange definition of sexy .
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #93 on: 09 December 2018, 19:50:18 »

OOF seemed a bit slow earlier, so I just assumed the hamster in its yellow jacket had escaped and was rioting in Paris all weekend. ::) ::) ::)
We're currently back on SAS spinny drives for a bit, following a controller glitch on the SSDs (which are SATA)

Scratch chin, why would SSDs make a difference as I would expect the reverse with slower HDDs with possible queue buffer overflow?
It looked like the SATA controller lockup, rather than the SSD, but hard to prove, hence having non critical stuff on the SATA SSDs to get confidence back. Some of HPE's firmwares over the past couple of years do leave a lot to be desired :(

So we're on the SAS controllers, well away from anything SATA, for a bit.  None of the SAS stuff has shown any issues.

We do not use SATA hard drives, because they are universally rubbish when it comes to performance - I guarantee if I swapped out the SAS for SATA, we'd see disk latencies measured in seconds, once the caches were exhausted.

Keep talking sexy TB; send in the wonderful SAS they will usually win through and resolve all issues! :D :D :D ;)

You have a strange definition of sexy .

Probably :D :D ;)
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #94 on: 09 December 2018, 20:04:06 »

The S.A.S would blow up the internet box :o
then where would we be  :-\
No Chinese tat deliveries off ebay , in fact, NO the OOF even  :(
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #95 on: 09 December 2018, 20:30:56 »

I have been thinking about the internet recently and weighing up the good and bad things about it. I have decided on balance that overall it probably hasn't been a good thing for humanity and we were probably better off before we had it.  :)
Tin hat on.  ;D
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #96 on: 09 December 2018, 20:38:47 »

We all probably got a lot more done, and didn't have as much 'stuff' cluttering up our homes!  ;D
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #97 on: 09 December 2018, 22:37:30 »

I have been thinking about the internet recently and weighing up the good and bad things about it. I have decided on balance that overall it probably hasn't been a good thing for humanity and we were probably better off before we had it.  :)
Tin hat on.  ;D
Work would be crap without it... Playing by yourself all night would cause you all kinds of problems... Or worse yet, having to actually do summat :o
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #98 on: 09 December 2018, 23:22:27 »

I would have to buy a lot more books to read.  ;D
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #99 on: 10 December 2018, 18:16:13 »

I have been thinking about the internet recently and weighing up the good and bad things about it. I have decided on balance that overall it probably hasn't been a good thing for humanity and we were probably better off before we had it.  :)
Tin hat on.  ;D
I do feel that social media, particularly things along the lines of Arsebook and Twotter, are the cancer of modern society.
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #100 on: 11 December 2018, 18:44:28 »

OOF seemed a bit slow earlier, so I just assumed the hamster in its yellow jacket had escaped and was rioting in Paris all weekend. ::) ::) ::)
We're currently back on SAS spinny drives for a bit, following a controller glitch on the SSDs (which are SATA)

Scratch chin, why would SSDs make a difference as I would expect the reverse with slower HDDs with possible queue buffer overflow?
It looked like the SATA controller lockup, rather than the SSD, but hard to prove, hence having non critical stuff on the SATA SSDs to get confidence back. Some of HPE's firmwares over the past couple of years do leave a lot to be desired :(

So we're on the SAS controllers, well away from anything SATA, for a bit.  None of the SAS stuff has shown any issues.

We do not use SATA hard drives, because they are universally rubbish when it comes to performance - I guarantee if I swapped out the SAS for SATA, we'd see disk latencies measured in seconds, once the caches were exhausted.

Keep talking sexy TB; send in the wonderful SAS they will usually win through and resolve all issues! :D :D :D ;)

Lizzies' disappointment is when TB's talking about floppy drives. :D :D ;D
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #101 on: 11 December 2018, 19:14:47 »

OOF seemed a bit slow earlier, so I just assumed the hamster in its yellow jacket had escaped and was rioting in Paris all weekend. ::) ::) ::)
We're currently back on SAS spinny drives for a bit, following a controller glitch on the SSDs (which are SATA)

Scratch chin, why would SSDs make a difference as I would expect the reverse with slower HDDs with possible queue buffer overflow?
It looked like the SATA controller lockup, rather than the SSD, but hard to prove, hence having non critical stuff on the SATA SSDs to get confidence back. Some of HPE's firmwares over the past couple of years do leave a lot to be desired :(

So we're on the SAS controllers, well away from anything SATA, for a bit.  None of the SAS stuff has shown any issues.

We do not use SATA hard drives, because they are universally rubbish when it comes to performance - I guarantee if I swapped out the SAS for SATA, we'd see disk latencies measured in seconds, once the caches were exhausted.

Keep talking sexy TB; send in the wonderful SAS they will usually win through and resolve all issues! :D :D :D ;)

Lizzies' disappointment is when TB's talking about floppy drives. :D :D ;D

Yes Rod, when he does that the interest diminishes greatly! :o :o :D ;)
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #102 on: 12 December 2018, 08:53:14 »

I have been thinking about the internet recently and weighing up the good and bad things about it. I have decided on balance that overall it probably hasn't been a good thing for humanity and we were probably better off before we had it.  :)
Tin hat on.  ;D
I do feel that social media, particularly things along the lines of Arsebook and Twotter, are the cancer of modern society.

I don't think they are really anything new - there were BBSes before them and real-world social networks before that.. it's just that the barrier to entry has been lowered to "everyone".

So maybe it's not them that are the cancer on society. Maybe it's just humans.
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Re: Hamster fed
« Reply #103 on: 12 December 2018, 15:42:27 »

The invention by German Gutenberg of the printing press caused similar problems in Europe where it was seen as the age of enlightenment with the increased printing of text for literature and a new age for everyone. Instead Luther harnessed it for political religious change so instead you got unrest, the Protestant Reformation and the triggering of the 30 years war, the deadliest religious war in history. :o :o :o

Russia's & China's use & abuse might trigger the same but we aren't there yet. ::) ::) ::)
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