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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Apparently, for insurance reasons, that is not allowed in the rougher parts of the country such as here. 

They usually take a copy of my driving licence and the keys to my car but nothing other than that.

[Varche]

Look forward to hearing how you rate it. We are looking at a 2 litre diesel auto tomorrow.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Apparently, for insurance reasons, that is not allowed in the rougher parts of the country such as here. 

Salesman speak for 'we don't trust you. You look like you'll have it away'

[Sir Tigger KC]

Got it up to about 85 on the test drive before the salesman started looking a bit twitchy. I will have to be careful, though, the motorways round here are always busy and, therefore, always speed limited with overhead gantry cameras.

I always tell the salesman I'd rather drive it on my own.

They've all  been fine with that including a good thrash in a 2017 F-Type and a 2017 E63.

I must have an honest face.

......typo. E63 should read C63.

Less risky leaving your Jag XFR as a security deposit, than a snot green Astra. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Got it up to about 85 on the test drive before the salesman started looking a bit twitchy. I will have to be careful, though, the motorways round here are always busy and, therefore, always speed limited with overhead gantry cameras.

I always tell the salesman I'd rather drive it on my own.

They've all  been fine with that including a good thrash in a 2017 F-Type and a 2017 E63.

I must have an honest face.

......typo. E63 should read C63.

Less risky leaving your Jag XFR as a security deposit, than a snot green Astra. 

Apparently a most desirable colour according to the salesman........and I'm sure he wouldn't tell porkies.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Got it up to about 85 on the test drive before the salesman started looking a bit twitchy. I will have to be careful, though, the motorways round here are always busy and, therefore, always speed limited with overhead gantry cameras.

I always tell the salesman I'd rather drive it on my own.

They've all  been fine with that including a good thrash in a 2017 F-Type and a 2017 E63.

I must have an honest face.

......typo. E63 should read C63.

Less risky leaving your Jag XFR as a security deposit, than a snot green Astra. 

Apparently a most desirable colour according to the salesman........and I'm sure he wouldn't tell porkies.

Probably the same salesman that flogged it to him in the first place! 

[Doctor Gollum]

Apparently, for insurance reasons, that is not allowed in the rougher parts of the country such as here. 

They usually take a copy of my driving licence and the keys to the wifes Corsa but nothing other than that.

Once a crafty sod...

[STEMO]

Got it up to about 85 on the test drive before the salesman started looking a bit twitchy. I will have to be careful, though, the motorways round here are always busy and, therefore, always speed limited with overhead gantry cameras.

I always tell the salesman I'd rather drive it on my own.

They've all  been fine with that including a good thrash in a 2017 F-Type and a 2017 E63.

I must have an honest face.

......typo. E63 should read C63.

Less risky leaving your Jag XFR as a security deposit, than a snot green Astra. 

Apparently a most desirable colour according to the salesman........and I'm sure he wouldn't tell porkies.

Probably the same salesman that flogged it to him in the first place! 

I'm going to miss seeing that lovely green hue when I glance through the misted glass in my back door. It looks like summer all the time. 

[tunnie]

Now you've had it a few days, can I ask how quickly it heats up from cold, to full temp?

It's around 5 to 8 mins for my VW before gauge is in the middle.

[STEMO]

Now you've had it a few days, can I ask how quickly it heats up from cold, to full temp?

It's around 5 to 8 mins for my VW before gauge is in the middle.

About 5 mins, but it's not been below 18° during the day since I bought it.
This engine seems to retain a lot of heat. After an hours walk, the gauge is still near the middle and, when I lifted the bonnet (see below) the heat hit me in the face.

Poxy metal bar to hold the bonnet up, no hydraulic strut.

[tunnie]

Now you've had it a few days, can I ask how quickly it heats up from cold, to full temp?

It's around 5 to 8 mins for my VW before gauge is in the middle.

About 5 mins, but it's not been below 18° during the day since I bought it.
This engine seems to retain a lot of heat. After an hours walk, the gauge is still near the middle and, when I lifted the bonnet (see below) the heat hit me in the face.

Poxy metal bar to hold the bonnet up, no hydraulic strut.

That's good, I need to test drive the 1.4T and time that. Leaning more to diesel Zaf now. 

[Andy H]

Now you've had it a few days, can I ask how quickly it heats up from cold, to full temp?

It's around 5 to 8 mins for my VW before gauge is in the middle.

VW temperature gauges lie, They are programmed to point bang in the middle unless the engine is either cold or overheating badly.

Try plugging VCDS in and compare the coolant temperature and the gauge indicated temperature as the engine warms up from cold...........

[STEMO]

Now you've had it a few days, can I ask how quickly it heats up from cold, to full temp?

It's around 5 to 8 mins for my VW before gauge is in the middle.

VW temperature gauges lie, They are programmed to point bang in the middle unless the engine is either cold or overheating badly.

Try plugging VCDS in and compare the coolant temperature and the gauge indicated temperature as the engine warms up from cold...........

All modern temperature gauges lie, including my astra. I can go back as far as my MGZT, that was exactly the same. The astra H didn't even have a temperature guard.

[Kevin Wood]

Yep, no point whatsoever in believing the dashboard gauge on a modern car. Or an old car, for that matter, but for different reasons.