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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #15 on: 02 October 2017, 18:22:25 »

Though, granted, there are many far more deserving candidates for the essential population adjustment.
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #16 on: 02 October 2017, 18:27:20 »

Would it sound insensitive if I said the world was over populated?

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No. Time for a war that reduces numbers and other problems albeit temporarily
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #17 on: 02 October 2017, 18:31:09 »

Would it sound insensitive if I said the world was over populated?

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No. Time for a war that reduces numbers and other problems albeit temporarily
Over to Trump and the Norks leader then :y
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #18 on: 02 October 2017, 18:35:46 »

Wasn't one of the first things that Trump did when he got into The White House was to repeal a law enacted by the Obama administration, which banned people with known mental health issues from owning guns?  :-\
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #19 on: 02 October 2017, 19:58:34 »

Well he was "sane" enough to book a hotel room and get 10 guns up there,early reports said the police had shot him when they stormed the room,while later reports say he shot himself.Whichever way he's gone so I guess we'll never really know the reason for him committing this atrocity.Sympathies are with the families of all the victims.
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #20 on: 02 October 2017, 20:13:21 »

Just wonder what sort of shite his brother and the rest of his family are going to experience after this. The immediate family usually have a torrid time due to the actions of a sibling. :-\
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #21 on: 02 October 2017, 20:26:44 »

Just wonder what sort of shite his brother and the rest of his family are going to experience after this. The immediate family usually have a torrid time due to the actions of a sibling. :-\
Seeing the state his brother was in on the news, there lives are just as devastated "as if he had shot their kids"

Sometimes there is no sense to be made from these tragic events :'(
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #22 on: 02 October 2017, 21:24:08 »

Often carried out by people who either smoke a lot of dope or take anti depressants. We may find out in time.
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #23 on: 02 October 2017, 22:17:15 »

Just wonder what sort of shite his brother and the rest of his family are going to experience after this. The immediate family usually have a torrid time due to the actions of a sibling. :-\
Seeing the state his brother was in on the news, their lives are just as devastated "as if he had shot their kids"

Sometimes there is no sense to be made from these tragic events :'(
Edited for an almost unforgivable grammatical faux pas :-[
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #24 on: 03 October 2017, 10:53:17 »

Another factor to consider is mental health services - access in the US is limited to those who can afford to pay, and those worst off are often most likely to be in need of help. Although given the guy in this case was a retired accountant, its unlikely he fell into that category.

The right to bear arms is a continuing source of confusion to me, it already has limits placed upon it, around certain types of ordinance and nuclear weapons, both of which are just as much "arms" as rifles, semi-automatic handguns etc. So if you want to talk about the principle of it, then that principle is already dead.

While these events are tragic, the American people as a group continue to reject both the concepts of universal (mental) healthcare and any sensible limits on gun ownership, as such, mass shootings will forever remain the price of "the American way".
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #25 on: 03 October 2017, 11:52:25 »

I believe the majority of U.S. citizens are in favour of stricter gun control, but the NRA are an extremely strong lobby group.
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #26 on: 03 October 2017, 11:59:21 »

Saw an episode of Family Guy last night, where the baby gets kidnapped by a latino woman, and when the dog came to rescue him, the captors wouldn't release the baby, so he (the baby) pulled out a handgun and shot everyone, saying that it was a shame it had come to that as they had actually been quite nice to him...

Utterly inappropriate on several levels, not least the timing, so you really can't help but wonder how most Americans are still normal, decent people :-\
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #27 on: 03 October 2017, 13:13:00 »

Another factor to consider is mental health services - access in the US is limited to those who can afford to pay, and those worst off are often most likely to be in need of help. Although given the guy in this case was a retired accountant, its unlikely he fell into that category.

The right to bear arms is a continuing source of confusion to me, it already has limits placed upon it, around certain types of ordinance and nuclear weapons, both of which are just as much "arms" as rifles, semi-automatic handguns etc. So if you want to talk about the principle of it, then that principle is already dead.

While these events are tragic, the American people as a group continue to reject both the concepts of universal (mental) healthcare and any sensible limits on gun ownership, as such, mass shootings will forever remain the price of "the American way".

It now is being said he was a millionaire with various properties.

He apparently used assault rifles in this attack.

White House saying it is too early to talk about gun controls, but the American people are starting to really say something different.

This side of the pond we can only speculate on what could happen, IF anything given Trump is against gun controls and wants every American to feel free to carry arms.  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X ::) ::) ::)

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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #28 on: 03 October 2017, 16:22:32 »

Well he was "sane" enough to book a hotel room and get 10 guns up there,early reports said the police had shot him when they stormed the room,while later reports say he shot himself.Whichever way he's gone so I guess we'll never really know the reason for him committing this atrocity.Sympathies are with the families of all the victims.

The authorities now say 23 guns were found in that hotel room, and there is a suspicion that some of those guns used were altered to allow for very rapid firing, 90 rounds in 10 seconds; far faster than a human can pull a trigger. :-X :-X
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Re: What drives folk to do this sort of thing ??
« Reply #29 on: 03 October 2017, 16:52:58 »

Well he was "sane" enough to book a hotel room and get 10 guns up there,early reports said the police had shot him when they stormed the room,while later reports say he shot himself.Whichever way he's gone so I guess we'll never really know the reason for him committing this atrocity.Sympathies are with the families of all the victims.

The authorities now say 23 guns were found in that hotel room, and there is a suspicion that some of those guns used were altered to allow for very rapid firing, 90 rounds in 10 seconds; far faster than a human can pull a trigger. :-X :-X

23 guns in the hotel room plus 19 more at his house, plus "thousands" of rounds plus explosives plus "electronic devices"!!  he certainly seemed prepared for what he intended !!
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