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[powerslinky]

Oil change earlier today . . .  went to undo alloy cap & housing started to move with it.

Got a "massive" pair of water pump type pliers on it with a second pair of hands & off camre the cap 

The housing was then free to revolve . . .not good me thinks . . . so used the usual 12mm allen key adaptor to remove it & have a good look.

My question is  . . should there be some kind of stop cast into the housing to stop it spinning?

With it off . . there was nothing obvious & also nothing broken off that I could see.

So on re fitting does the housing go on in a certain position regarding revolving  . . .meaning do any holes have to line up with anything in the block?

I seem to recall there should be some sort of "stop" that locates the housing in the correct position.

Or I am I getting confused with something else?      any advice appriciated 

I have just put it back on & tightened the allen bolt in the centre very tight , fitted filter & re tourqed cap to 15nm

[Nick W]

Sounds like some previous asshole owner has broken it off, refitted the housing and not changed the filter again. Quite why they went back to such an arrangement and under-engineered it is beyond me.


I don't have any more of the spin-on adapters left, so can't help you there.

[powerslinky]

Sounds like some previous asshole owner has broken it off, refitted the housing and not changed the filter again. Quite why they went back to such an arrangement and under-engineered it is beyond me.


I don't have any more of the spin-on adapters left, so can't help you there.

Hi Nick  . . .  getting worried now . . . . so can the housing being in the wrong position restrict or stop oil flow?    Had a real good look  at the housing & cannot see any damage at all 

I need a picture of what the "Stop"  / "Lug"   should be like 

Do you think it is alright to run the car as is

Will probably go down the spin on route even though the guy who was going to make a batch of the adaptors  . . didn't  LOL !

[biggriffin]

There is was a conversion kit available from GM, don't know the numbers, not helpful, but somebody might be along, think there's a guide too.

[powerslinky]

There is was a conversion kit available from GM, don't know the numbers, not helpful, but somebody might be along, think there's a guide too.

Yes Trev . . .VX do the threaded adaptor . . .around £18  as I remember .

Guide in maintenance section ..             Will probably go that route

[Nick W]

Sounds like some previous asshole owner has broken it off, refitted the housing and not changed the filter again. Quite why they went back to such an arrangement and under-engineered it is beyond me.


I don't have any more of the spin-on adapters left, so can't help you there.

Hi Nick  . . .  getting worried now . . . . so can the housing being in the wrong position restrict or stop oil flow?    Had a real good look  at the housing & cannot see any damage at all 

I need a picture of what the "Stop"  / "Lug"   should be like 

Do you think it is alright to run the car as is

Will probably go down the spin on route even though the guy who was going to make a batch of the adaptors  . . didn't  LOL !

I could make them. But it would cost more than one of THESE so it's not going to happen

[TheBoy]

As the misinformed are so keen to be shot of the housings, I'm sure one of the spin-on fanatics will happily give you one of their's, complete with lug

[powerslinky]

Sounds like some previous asshole owner has broken it off, refitted the housing and not changed the filter again. Quite why they went back to such an arrangement and under-engineered it is beyond me.


I don't have any more of the spin-on adapters left, so can't help you there.

Hi Nick  . . .  getting worried now . . . . so can the housing being in the wrong position restrict or stop oil flow?    Had a real good look  at the housing & cannot see any damage at all 

I need a picture of what the "Stop"  / "Lug"   should be like 

Do you think it is alright to run the car as is

Will probably go down the spin on route even though the guy who was going to make a batch of the adaptors  . . didn't  LOL !

I could make them. But it would cost more than one of THESE so it's not going to happen

£18  last time I enquired at my local VX dealer  . . .  will get one this week 

[powerslinky]

As the misinformed are so keen to be shot of the housings, I'm sure one of the spin-on fanatics will happily give you one of their's, complete with lug

you do make me laugh TB   

Can you answer this one TB  ?     running the car as is with the so called "lug" not on the housing, am I liable to get oil starvation by oil ways /holes not lining up ? OR   is the lug just there to stop the housing spinning when removing the cap /

[amba]

Very much doudt it Al...as the housing is only a casing for the filter and the lug stop is purely to be able to tighten it up to specific torque without it moving...very tight would be fine.

Oil gets pushed in through the hollow centre which if you look at the spigot adaptor is evident.  

[Nick W]

As the misinformed are so keen to be shot of the housings, I'm sure one of the spin-on fanatics will happily give you one of their's, complete with lug

Couldn't give mine away, so it went in the bin. When they work, replacements are not needed. Once they're broken, reverting to the modern spin-on is the way to go as no one with any sense is going to risk the possible hassle of removing another damaged housing.

[powerslinky]

Very much doudt it Al...as the housing is only a casing for the filter and the lug stop is purely to be able to tighten it up to specific torque without it moving...very tight would be fine.

Oil gets pushed in through the hollow centre which if you look at the spigot adaptor is evident.

Ok  so will be alright to run to next oil change  . . .I will then fit a spin on  ( much to TB's disgust)

I have already checked it will come off again  . . . fitted filter & cap torqued up to 15nm & before adding oil loosened cap off again  . . . no problem , housing stayed tight . If after 6 months it will spin the housing again  . .who knows    but leaving it for the time being

[ronnyd]

Do you get good pressure on the gauge when you fire it up? If so, should be ok i would have thought.

[powerslinky]

Do you get good pressure on the gauge when you fire it up? If so, should be ok i would have thought.

Gauge . . . .what gauge?    never had an omega with an oil presure gauge  . . .& I've  had 10

Guessing you mean the oil warning light  . . .& that goes out as soon as engine is started 

[amba]

Al.

Sure it will be just fine and if its not showing any signs of leaks then good to go.Wise move also checking cap will release.

Gives you time to source filter spigot and then on next oil change convert to canister.

Mine is still the original metal housing and this gets removed for oil change every 2 months or so given my mileage and is only ever tightened to 15nm so hopeful this isn't a problem I will ever have