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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #60 on: 14 November 2017, 00:06:34 »

2 things happened today (yesterday/monday).  :)

Firstly a group of important corporate bigwigs from the continent visited Mrs May at Downing Street and told her that we have to pay more money for a free trade agreement so their businesses aren't inconvenienced.  :)

Secondly David Davies told Parliament that they can have a vote on the deal after all, however if they vote it down we leave with no deal and anyway the vote might not happen until after we've left with no deal.  ;)  It's immaterial as the EU Parliament egged on by the deranged Guy Verhofstat will vote it down anyway and we'll leave the EU with no deal.  ::)
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #61 on: 21 November 2017, 09:28:35 »

Interesting developments.

The cabinet hsve agreed to up the offer. Some speculation it could be 40billion.

A group of German business leaders have urged the striking of a trade deal above political considerations

Might be another German election.

No sign of a solution to Irish border but then if there is no trade deal it is academic.


Still think it is going to end in a no deal at all at the 11th hour.
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #62 on: 21 November 2017, 12:09:04 »

Interesting developments.

The cabinet hsve agreed to up the offer. Some speculation it could be 40billion.

A group of German business leaders have urged the striking of a trade deal above political considerations

Might be another German election.

No sign of a solution to Irish border but then if there is no trade deal it is academic.


Still think it is going to end in a no deal at all at the 11th hour.

Which is forty thousand million pounds. A huge amount of money.......or forty thousands pots each containing a million pounds. :o :o :o

Correct me If I'm wrong but I thought the idea of leaving the EU was that we would SAVE 350 million each week which in turn would SAVE the NHS. :)

I don't recall any mention by anyone from either side saying we would need to pay to leave.

Perhaps we should say "We're British" and refuse to pay the cads and scoundrels. :)
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #63 on: 21 November 2017, 12:27:49 »

Even when we do leave (sort of) in 2019 it looks as though we will still pay for access to the single market. :-\

It also looks as if we will still be submissive to the ECJ and still have no control over movement of people. :-\

As for the 'transitional period'  of 2 years.......I wouldn't bet on it. It could be decades or even longer. :-\
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #64 on: 21 November 2017, 12:29:45 »


No sign of a solution to Irish border but then if there is no trade deal it is academi
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Still think it is going to end in a no deal at all at the 11th hour.

Except that its only the DUP that are propping up Ms Weak n Wobbly in No. 10. No deal, must mean a hard border in Ireland, do you think the DUP would wear that? Serious question, I have no idea what the mind set of that particular band of religious nutcases is.  ::)
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #65 on: 21 November 2017, 12:44:10 »


No sign of a solution to Irish border but then if there is no trade deal it is academi
c.


Still think it is going to end in a no deal at all at the 11th hour.

Except that its only the DUP that are propping up Ms Weak n Wobbly in No. 10. No deal, must mean a hard border in Ireland, do you think the DUP would wear that? Serious question, I have no idea what the mind set of that particular band of religious nutcases is.  ::)




The DUP like Theresa. :) The billion pound gift make no difference. :)
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #66 on: 21 November 2017, 13:11:45 »

Re Justice.

I believe we (Britain) have just lost their seat in the international court of justice. Don't know why. That seems strange.

I wonder how many other countries on the planet post Brexit will have their laws ruled by an external body? I am guessing one. that also seems strange.
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #67 on: 21 November 2017, 13:39:14 »

Some banking operations are already moving abroad.

The EBA (European banking authority) is moving from London to Paris.
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #68 on: 21 November 2017, 13:46:37 »

Some banking operations are already moving abroad.

The EBA (European banking authority) is moving from London to Paris.

And the European Medicines Agency  ::) ::) :( :(
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #69 on: 21 November 2017, 13:51:27 »

Some banking operations are already moving abroad.

The EBA (European banking authority) is moving from London to Paris.

And the European Medicines Agency  ::) ::) :( :(

Yep.....Amsterdam. Located in London since 1995 and employs around 900 people in Canary Wharf, apparently.
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #70 on: 21 November 2017, 15:11:48 »

Sigh, where to start......... ::)
No deal does not automatically mean a hard border in Ireland. Nor does it threaten the so called peace process (someones bluff needs calling on that one).
The border can remain open on the conditions that the Dublin Govt. are responsible for ensuring that a serious problem doesn't develop where illegal immigrants arrive in the Republic of Ireland and then try to enter the UK by heading north to the border.
Also, if any kind of terrorists come across the border and then nip back down south again, the UK will reserve the right to take any security measures needed to protect its people. Job done.
No need to worry about customs, as that border has always been more porous than a sponge and no-one cared, so why make an issue of it now ?
As for the DUP. Most of them aren't religious at all, although their founding father was. Even his son has been known to get blind drunk, although he got pretty concerned when a copper found him and said "I'm gonna tell your Da".  ;D
I'm surprised the DUP are said to be so strongly against the possibility of a hard border, as the Republic has been seen by many Loyalists to be an aggressor and an enemy (often with good reason)  and would prefer it to be on a different continent.  ::)
What they will not stand for (and rightly so), is the notion of a border in the Irish sea, between mainland Britain and the island of Ireland
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The 40 billion or whatever the figure is, is ludicrous. Its politics again. The politics of uniting the cabinet, by a compromise which doesn't completely suit anyone but will probably bring the remoaners, such as Hammond and Rudd close to being "on message" with the rest of them.
If we need to pay them to access their market. We should be reminding them that they sell a hell of a lot more to use than we sell to them, so they need to make a generous offer to access our market in return.
What we need right now is a clone of Thatcher to appear out of the mist, to scare the bejaysus out of the pygmies in Brussels like she used to.
Or at least a PM in possession of a spine.
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #71 on: 21 November 2017, 15:16:05 »

Some banking operations are already moving abroad.

The EBA (European banking authority) is moving from London to Paris.

And the European Medicines Agency  ::) ::) :( :(

Yep.....Amsterdam. Located in London since 1995 and employs around 900 people in Canary Wharf, apparently.

It was always inevitable that EU institutions would leave the UK when we leave the EU. Its insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #72 on: 21 November 2017, 15:35:55 »

Some banking operations are already moving abroad.

The EBA (European banking authority) is moving from London to Paris.

And the European Medicines Agency  ::) ::) :( :(

with their 35,000 man day junkets a year visits!!! (their own website figure)
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #73 on: 21 November 2017, 16:11:01 »

Apparently the previously mentioned institutions use 40,000 hotel rooms per year. :-X
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Re: Two weeks to say how much we are going to pay
« Reply #74 on: 21 November 2017, 16:32:50 »

Great, maybe hotel prices in London will go down a bit now then! ;D
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