Quoting Varche:
But that has little or nothing to do with being in or out of the EU. That is just a myth.
We in the UK should all do what we can to unite the world not blow it apart Fine words but did you denounce our actions in the Falklands war, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Kuwait to name but a few?
Like it or not a lot of Britains wealth comes from our military might as showcased in various wars. Fifth or sixth largest economy in the world. A pathetic little Englander.!? I hate that term on so many levels. Emigrate if you don't like the place without fully comprehending the true facts Whose fault is that? the government of the day and the EU for that matter. they could have changed in recognition of growing concerns within its member countries but DID NOT. What are the true facts? No one actually knows. Not even well paid economists. Why? Because no one knows what deal we will end up with or even how it will pan out with a no deal. The bottom line was vote remain and stick with the safe option because it isn't really bad but could improve with luck OR get out and make our own way. I have heard nothing to convince me otherwise from leaving and I have much more to lose than most Brits as an expat.
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Answers:I did not say that those issues had a direct bearing on the UK being either in or out of the EU. I purely mentioned those in the context of a measure of how well, or not, the UK will be doing post Brexit, and how it has affected it's prospects.
But the trend already is not good:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/02/european-nurses-midwives-leaving-uk-nhs-brexit-votehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/02/number-eu-nurses-registering-work-britain-falls-90-per-cent/http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41838426https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/23/brexit-manufacturers-limiting-investment-due-to-shortage-of-workershttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/13/uk-apple-growers-labour-shortage-brexithttps://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/food-inflationhttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/housebuilders-report-loss-of-skilled-workers-since-brexit-vote-v9t9ttz8chttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/fears-of-brexit-braindrain-grow-as-one-million-eu-nationals-consider-leaving-the-uk-a3621361.htmlSo, with a looming multi-billion payout to the EU, the above shortage of workers in the health, building and agricultural industries already, with increasing food prices it does not look good. Yes, industrial output is actually very strong currently, but the future output relies on confidence in the market place, and a healthy, effective, well fed work force. We shall see.
The wars you mention were not world wars, but regional conflicts. Only The Falklands was a regional conflict involving just the British, and a fine job the military did in stitching together just enough military hardware to do the job without help with the physical job from the USA, although their assistance with intelligence was required. As for "Britain's wealth" coming from it's military might, well no, that is not true. In fact both World Wars contributed to the bankrupting of Britain as the country was forced to pour all it's wealth into armaments and the cost of funding war, with that representing between 47% (for 1914-18) and 52% of GDP in 1945. So that "military might" was impressive to look at, but was usually far too expensive to maintain and was frequently found to be obsolete. Only in the 18th and 19th century was Britain's military, along with the East India Trading Company (from 1600 to 1874) assisting in the growth of commercial trade, but the costs of maintaining and policing the Empire were huge, and at the expense of social change at home. That is why the Empire collapsed in the 20th Century as Britain could no longer afford to maintain a military presence around the globe; it was far more effective to have trade agreements with distant countries and let them defend themselves.
As for the "little Englander" comment, I do not like it either! I love my country and will NOT be moving away any time soon! However, the comment is still relevant: aimed at those amoungst us who only think (and voted for Brexit) of how many immigrants are in the country, how many are "taking their jobs", moan about how many houses are going to be built near to them, and only think of political / or any actions when it affects them, with an attitude of blow everyone else.
As for not comprehending the full facts, well yes, I agree fully with your comments. As I stated Cameron was to blame for that, with an awful Remain campaign that failed to really mention the facts of the situation, which buffoon Boris and Co., fully exploited.