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[tunnie]

£13k for a 6 year old car...

It's this sort of thing that makes me realise what a bargain my Omega was.

Yup, as been mentioned there is no Ford/Rover/Vauxhall RWD market any more, so it means paying premium prices.

It's more like £15k for say XJ or similar vintage. 

FWD can easily be had for £10k and 3 years old, e.g. Insignia, my old VW CC etc.

Big premium for RWD now 

Insignia and VW are hardly comparable to a Jag. My astra elite with all the toys was over £26000 new, but I picked it up for £8500, three years old with 20000 miles. Ex mobility so all services done........bargain....but not unusual.

Same with my Zafira that was ex-mobilty, but Vauxhalls always suffer heavy on depreciation.

The Kia RWD saloon will be one to watch on it's value

[STEMO]

£13k for a 6 year old car...

It's this sort of thing that makes me realise what a bargain my Omega was.

Yup, as been mentioned there is no Ford/Rover/Vauxhall RWD market any more, so it means paying premium prices.

It's more like £15k for say XJ or similar vintage. 

FWD can easily be had for £10k and 3 years old, e.g. Insignia, my old VW CC etc.

Big premium for RWD now 

Insignia and VW are hardly comparable to a Jag. My astra elite with all the toys was over £26000 new, but I picked it up for £8500, three years old with 20000 miles. Ex mobility so all services done........bargain....but not unusual.

Same with my Zafira that was ex-mobilty, but Vauxhalls always suffer heavy on depreciation.

The Kia RWD saloon will be one to watch on it's value

I don’t think it makes a jot of difference to today’s drivers. Most of them have never driven a RWD car and it’s probably way down the list of what they look for.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

£13k for a 6 year old car...

It's this sort of thing that makes me realise what a bargain my Omega was.

Yup, as been mentioned there is no Ford/Rover/Vauxhall RWD market any more, so it means paying premium prices.

It's more like £15k for say XJ or similar vintage. 

FWD can easily be had for £10k and 3 years old, e.g. Insignia, my old VW CC etc.

Big premium for RWD now 

Insignia and VW are hardly comparable to a Jag. My astra elite with all the toys was over £26000 new, but I picked it up for £8500, three years old with 20000 miles. Ex mobility so all services done........bargain....but not unusual.

Same with my Zafira that was ex-mobilty, but Vauxhalls always suffer heavy on depreciation.

The Kia RWD saloon will be one to watch on it's value

Stinger?

If so it will depreciate like falling off a cliff and make a shrewd used buy. I like it.

[TheBoy]

XF-S means full fat engine, could have optional sports seats. Probably around £10k depending on miles

The 2017 version I drove for a week came with 300BHP and 516lb ft of twist.

Quite nippy albeit over a narrow rev band.

Yeah, all the 3.0d's became 300bhp a couple of years ago. I believe they entirely dropped the half arsed 230bhp 3.0d. And rightly so, as it was pointless.

[TheBoy]

I don’t think it makes a jot of difference to today’s drivers. Most of them have never driven a RWD car and it’s probably way down the list of what they look for.

Traditionally RWD could offer better comfort, as didn't need to be rock hard in order to get the power down.  Then when all the FWD boyz started getting RWD, they wanted them rock hard.  Now all BMW (in particular) are too stiff, and coupled with the silly ultra low profile tyres that are wicked innit, there almost becomes little point.

I still get pleasure driving RWD (and I don't mean hanging the arse out all the time, I'm getting a bit old for that), but when I eventually slow down, a larger FWD saloon would probably suffice.

[BazaJT]

I don't know whether it's just me or not,but I'd be interested to hear others views.I have a RWD-the Omega-and a FWD-the V70-and I've owned other RWD/FWD cars in the past.Now in ordinary day to day driving[round town/to the shops etc.]I find no particular sensation that would tell me which wheels are providing the thrust,likewise when travelling the motorways at motorway speeds.Yes when setting off from a standstill using a bit of "hooligan mode" the driven wheels will spin up a lot easier on a FWD car,the turning circle tends to be greater on the FWD[given similarly sized cars and on the "twisties" there are also differences to be noticed.So what other sensations do others experience[which I obviously don't]that screams at them RWD or FWD?

[STEMO]

In an omega. The sensation of thinking you’re going to die when coming off a roundabout in the damp.

[Sir Tigger KC]

In an omega. The sensation of thinking you’re going to die when coming off a roundabout in the damp.

You must have had Autogrips on the back! 

[Kevin Wood]

In an omega. The sensation of thinking you’re going to die when coming off a roundabout in the damp.

You must have had Autogrips on the back! 

Yep, I do wonder what people do to Omegas to make them apparently do this. Mine needs serious provocation to even think about stepping out of line even in the worst driving conditions.

[Lazydocker]

In an omega. The sensation of thinking you’re going to die when coming off a roundabout in the damp.

You must have had Autogrips on the back! 

Yep, I do wonder what people do to Omegas to make them apparently do this. Mine needs serious provocation to even think about stepping out of line even in the worst driving conditions.

Indeed. But you don’t skimp on the only contact with the road

Mine was frequently stepping out when I was provoking it but in normal use I only ever had 1 incident (which Wasn’t a drama!) when I found some black ice

[Kevin Wood]

I only ever use Kumho tyres these days, and run them right down to the legal limit.

But yes, black ice can do it.

Apparently....

[tunnie]

I've got Kumho's (KU39's) all around on the 3.2 generally fine, although couple of times in Farnborough other day TC light comes on pulling away. Must have been slippery roads, as generally fine.

[TheBoy]

I only ever use Kumho tyres these days, and run them right down to the legal limit.

But yes, black ice can do it.

Apparently....

I like the Kuhmos, but don't use them due to lack of feedback, and to quote what DLK said when I drove Vader to your gaff, I drive like a idiot.

But they are the top of the midrange. And better than some premiums.  But the likes of PS4 are in a different league again, and in the dry, makes it hard to get the arse to step out without Scandanavian Flick type provocations (or hard braking with a lot of lock on).

[TheBoy]

TC light comes on pulling away. Must have been slippery roads, as generally fine.

I was telling gixer and the cripple back one that I can't pull away at all without the back lighting up at the moment 

[BazaJT]

They've put this one-a 67K miler at least two owners-up at £13,499.See told you I was a nosey sod