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[STEMO]

So......Damien Green was tossing it off in front of a House of Commons computer then. Nothing wrong with that, we’ve all done it. 

[Varche]

Eh, come again?

[STEMO]

Eh, come again?

Yes, he certainly did. 

[STEMO]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42434802

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm sure something is going on as Ministers seem to be dropping like flies these days! 

We'll have Jacob Rees-Mogg, John Redwood, Peter Bone and Bill Cash running the show before long! 

Conspiracy anyone? 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I'm sure something is going on as Ministers seem to be dropping like flies these days! 

We'll have Jacob Rees-Mogg, John Redwood, Peter Bone and Bill Cash running the show before long! 

Conspiracy anyone? 

We can but dream. 
I think the conduct of the Police in this matter has been beneath contempt, and I hope those involved end up in the dock. I wont hold my breath though. 

[Mister Rog]

So......Damien Green was tossing it off in front of a House of Commons computer then. Nothing wrong with that, we’ve all done it.

Bill Clinton didn't, he had an alternative        

[aaronjb]

Conspiracy anyone? 

1. Bring down the government.
2. Install Corbyn into power.
3. Weasel out of Art. 50.
4. Submit to EU rule
5. Give all possessions and income to the EU state, the EU will provide your living essentials and there will be 100% employement

Nirvana will have been reached*


(*Ask Eastern Europe how that worked out)

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I don't think he should have resigned.

He watched porn on his computer.......so what.

It wasn't kiddie porn,  animal porn, or snuff porn, so who cares.

The police are behind this and have acted badly.

[aaronjb]

I don't think he should have resigned.

He watched porn on his computer.......so what.

It wasn't kiddie porn,  animal porn, or snuff porn, so who cares.

The police are behind this and have acted badly.

That's generally a dismissible offence in most contracts of employment if you're doing it on work time on a work computer.. I know I'd get fired if I was caught doing that.

That said, he wasn't "caught" (by HM Govt. IT) but ratted out by the Police.. still, if someone had a quiet word in HRs ear I'm still sure I'd get fired.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I don't think he should have resigned.

He watched porn on his computer.......so what.

It wasn't kiddie porn,  animal porn, or snuff porn, so who cares.

The police are behind this and have acted badly.

That's generally a dismissible offence in most contracts of employment if you're doing it on work time on a work computer.. I know I'd get fired if I was caught doing that.

That said, he wasn't "caught" (by HM Govt. IT) but ratted out by the Police.. still, if someone had a quiet word in HRs ear I'm still sure I'd get fired.

I would think that 'watching' porn on the work computer is acceptable when work is slack.......I would think that 'wanking' over porn when when the girls in the office are present is a sackable offence.
 

[TheBoy]

I don't think he should have resigned.

He watched porn on his computer.......so what.

It wasn't kiddie porn,  animal porn, or snuff porn, so who cares.

The police are behind this and have acted badly.

That's generally a dismissible offence in most contracts of employment if you're doing it on work time on a work computer.. I know I'd get fired if I was caught doing that.

That said, he wasn't "caught" (by HM Govt. IT) but ratted out by the Police.. still, if someone had a quiet word in HRs ear I'm still sure I'd get fired.

I would think that 'watching' porn on the work computer is acceptable when work is slack.......I would think that 'wanking' over porn when when the girls in the office are present is a sackable offence.

Not in the modern society way of doing things.  Many companies have all sorts of policies on what constitues acceptable use on work PCs, and many larger companies have technology that blocks it.

Certainly within my company, its a disciplinary offence to view such material via work provided equipment and networks.

[Mister Rog]

The copper involved is seriously out of order on this, however once Pandoras box is opened there's no going back.

In my view, he should - be sacked/resign/whatever at least for sheer stupidity

1) For doing it

2) For not clearing his browsing history !

My understand (could be wrong) is that most of the "images" were thumbnails.

EDIT
PS: I'd also bet that this has resulted in a huge number of MPs/Public Servants etc of all political persuations trying to frantically cover their tracks.

[aaronjb]

Not in the modern society way of doing things.  Many companies have all sorts of policies on what constitues acceptable use on work PCs, and many larger companies have technology that blocks it.

Certainly within my company, its a disciplinary offence to view such material via work provided equipment and networks.

Same here - in fact, if you click on a link that is deemed unsavoury (I swear it wasn't porn!) you get a nice warning page instead of where you intended to go, and that gets logged and reported on..

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Not in the modern society way of doing things.  Many companies have all sorts of policies on what constitues acceptable use on work PCs, and many larger companies have technology that blocks it.

Certainly within my company, its a disciplinary offence to view such material via work provided equipment and networks.

Same here - in fact, if you click on a link that is deemed unsavoury (I swear it wasn't porn!) you get a nice warning page instead of where you intended to go, and that gets logged and reported on..

Yeah....yeah. If you say so, Aaron.

[2boxerdogs]

Our computers in HMPS are monitored anyway so they would have you bang to rights.

[Viral_Jim]

Agree with the above. Sack him on grounds of stupidity. I’m also not mad keen on the idea of him using public funds (salary, prime London office space, heat, light etc etc) to w@nk himself silly.

The touching of the knee is all post-Weinstein(spelling?) hysteria. And I speak as one of the Snoflake Millenials

[STEMO]

Agree with the above. Sack him on grounds of stupidity. I’m also not mad keen on the idea of him using public funds (salary, prime London office space, heat, light etc etc) to w@nk himself silly.

The touching of the knee is all post-Weinstein(spelling?) hysteria. And I speak as one of the Snoflake (spelling) Millenials

[redelitev6]

The copper involved is seriously out of order on this, however once Pandoras box is opened there's no going back.

In my view, he should - be sacked/resign/whatever at least for sheer stupidity

1) For doing it

2) For not clearing his browsing history !

My understand (could be wrong) is that most of the "images" were thumbnails.

EDIT
PS: I'd also bet that this has resulted in a huge number of MPs/Public Servants etc of all political persuations trying to frantically cover their tracks.

He had pictures of thumbnails ? i thought it was porn 

[Bigron]

Surely it is easy to block such material? When I was working at a college, I had a group of graduates on a project, and one day one of them came to me complaining that he was researching for the project and the computer blocked him.
"What were you searching for", I asked.
"Analogue circuits", he replied.
I pondered, then fell about laughing, to the mystification of the student.
When I had recovered, I explained that the IT filter had reje=cted the "anal" in analogue circuits!

Ron.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Let us be clear on what has happened here.

In 2008 "porn" was found on Damien Green's computer.  The police have agreed it was NOT illegal content, and had nothing to do with their search of his offices, which were NOT carried out under the force of a warrant. No court action was ever taken against Damien Green.

Two former senior police officers made it be known that "pornography" had been found in 2008 on Damien Green's computer.  There actions were in contravention of the Police Code of Ethics (Section 7, Page 11) which strictly prohibits the disclosure of information gained either on or off police duty to an unauthorized recipients, which is also in breach of the Data Protection Act 1998, both of which I have had to sign in my police support role:

http://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Ethics/Documents/Code_of_Ethics.pdf

Damien Green IS guilty of lying about his knowledge of what was found on his computer in 2008, and breaching the Ministerial Code of Conduct, but he has NOT been found guilty of any criminal offence and still strenuously denies he ever loaded the porn to his computer.

However, the two ex-police officers should be brought to account over their alleged unauthorized disclosures of police information which was, allegedly, an illegal act.

This whole episode is very distasteful and dangerous, with severe political and democratic implications when police officers can illegally affect the government of the day. Until Damien Green is charged and prosecuted for this or any other matter, he is, like any other citizen, to be thought of as being innocent.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Let us be clear on what has happened here.

In 2008 "porn" was found on Damien Green's computer.  The police have agreed it was NOT illegal content, and had nothing to do with their search of his offices, which were NOT carried out under the force of a warrant. No court action was ever taken against Damien Green.

Two former senior police officers made it be known that "pornography" had been found in 2008 on Damien Green's computer.  There actions were in contravention of the Police Code of Ethics (Section 7, Page 11) which strictly prohibits the disclosure of information gained either on or off police duty to an unauthorized recipients, which is also in breach of the Data Protection Act 1998, both of which I have had to sign in my police support role:

http://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Ethics/Documents/Code_of_Ethics.pdf

Damien Green IS guilty of lying about is knowledge of what was found on his computer in 2008, and breaching the Ministerial Code of Conduct, but he has NOT been found guilty of any criminal offence and still strenuously denies he ever loaded the porn to his computer.

However, the two ex-police officers should be brought to account over their alleged unauthorized disclosures of police information which was, allegedly, a illegal act.

This whole episode is very distasteful and dangerous, with severe political and democratic implications when police officers can illegally affect the government of the day. Until Damien Green is charged and prosecuted for this or any other matter, he is, like any other citizen, to be thought of as being innocent.

Yes.

[Kevin Wood]

Let us be clear on what has happened here.

In 2008 "porn" was found on Damien Green's computer.  The police have agreed it was NOT illegal content, and had nothing to do with their search of his offices, which were NOT carried out under the force of a warrant. No court action was ever taken against Damien Green.

Two former senior police officers made it be known that "pornography" had been found in 2008 on Damien Green's computer.  There actions were in contravention of the Police Code of Ethics (Section 7, Page 11) which strictly prohibits the disclosure of information gained either on or off police duty to an unauthorized recipients, which is also in breach of the Data Protection Act 1998, both of which I have had to sign in my police support role:

http://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Ethics/Documents/Code_of_Ethics.pdf

Damien Green IS guilty of lying about is knowledge of what was found on his computer in 2008, and breaching the Ministerial Code of Conduct, but he has NOT been found guilty of any criminal offence and still strenuously denies he ever loaded the porn to his computer.

However, the two ex-police officers should be brought to account over their alleged unauthorized disclosures of police information which was, allegedly, a illegal act.

This whole episode is very distasteful and dangerous, with severe political and democratic implications when police officers can illegally affect the government of the day. Until Damien Green is charged and prosecuted for this or any other matter, he is, like any other citizen, to be thought of as being innocent.

Agreed, Lizzie. His lies since the story emerged have rendered him worthy of losing his position, but when the (ex) Police dabble in politics, it leaves a very bad taste.

[Bigron]

Similar unethical, if not illegal, behaviour over that "plebgate" incident earlier. A worrying trend....

Ron.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

During that incident one of the officers posted on social media "I think Ive just brought down a Tory minister".
Like most of the public sector, the police have been infiltrated and lost control to the liberal left.

[Varche]

So is this politically inspired to further weaken and discredit the Tories?

[Mister Rog]

During that incident one of the officers posted on social media "I think Ive just brought down a Tory minister".
Like most of the public sector, the police have been infiltrated and lost control to the liberal extreme Left.

A minor correction . . . . .

[Bigron]

Didn't Leslie Grantham (Dirty Den) do naughties in his dressing room a few years back - hence his departure from EastEnders?

Ron.

[Sir Tigger KC]

So is this politically inspired to further weaken and discredit the Tories?

Yep! 

[Rods2]

So......Damien Green was tossing it off in front of a House of Commons computer then. Nothing wrong with that, we’ve all done it. 

I'm not Tory MP material where I've obviously lead a sad sheltered life, what's tossing in front of a computer? My beautiful young wife 'sitting on my lap' in front of a computer has happened on long winter nights. I've heard sitting underneath on a cloth covered typist chairs with no arms is much more comfortable and practical than using an executive leather one with arms when ones expressing yourself , not that I would know. But I'm sure a man of the world like Lord Opti will confirm.

[ronnyd]

So......Damien Green was tossing it off in front of a House of Commons computer then. Nothing wrong with that, we’ve all done it. 

I'm not Tory MP material where I've obviously lead a sad sheltered life, what's tossing in front of a computer? My beautiful young wife 'sitting on my lap' in front of a computer has happened on long winter nights. I've heard sitting underneath on a cloth covered typist chairs with no arms is much more comfortable and practical than using an executive leather one with arms when ones expressing yourself , not that I would know. But I'm sure a man of the world like Lord Opti will confirm. ;)

Are you calling him a w@nker. Surely not.

[Mister Rog]

So is this politically inspired to further weaken and discredit the Tories?

On the subject of "dirt" . . .

What I'd really like to know is what does Diane Abbott have on JC ? There must be something for him to keep her in her job. Without her, liebour may possibly have actually scraped a win in the last election. We know that they used to be bonking partners, so . . . dirty pics ? Kinky activity ? Some little fetish ? Hmmmmmm

[Bigron]

Are you sure Mr. Rog? Even one as tastless and misguded as Corbin wouldn't go near THAT, surely? Pass the sick bucket!

Ron.

[STEMO]

Are you sure Mr. Rog? Even one as tastless and misguded as Corbin wouldn't go near THAT, surely? Pass the sick bucket!

Ron.

It’s common knowledge that they lived together and Corbyn was very proud to embellish his left wing credentials by shacking up with a black woman. Quite a feather in the cap for a Trotskyite in the 70’s.

[Mister Rog]

Are you sure Mr. Rog? Even one as tastless and misguded as Corbin wouldn't go near THAT, surely? Pass the sick bucket!

Ron.

Yep, he did. Possibly without the brown paper bag. personally I would rather do a "Damien". Hang on, have I just invented a colloquialism ?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/22/revealed-jeremy-corbyn-showed-off-naked-diane-abbott-to-impress/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-diane-abbott-had-6458654

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/18/left-1970s-jeremy-corbyn-diane-abbott-sex

[Bigron]

Bloody hell, Mr. Rog - I need therapy after reading those stories: I had no idea! It shows the lengths that Comrade Corbyn will go to in the pursuit of power!
I must go and lie down in a darkened room.....

Ron.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Bloody hell,

I must go and lie down in a darkened room and think of Diane Abbott! 

Ron.

FTFY Ron! 

[Bigron]

YEUK!!!!!

[Nick W]

Bloody hell, Mr. Rog - I need therapy after reading those stories: I had no idea! It shows the lengths that Comrade Corbyn will go to in the pursuit of power!
I must go and lie down in a darkened room.....

Ron.

What power has Diane Abbott ever held that could possibly justify such actions?

[Viral_Jim]

I think it’s important to remember people do not look now, as they did then. I mean, looking at the contemporary photo below, she’s hardly a beacon of physical perfection, but you could argue he’s “batting his average”.

https://goo.gl/images/5eUMj3

[Bigron]

It's still YEUK, Jimmy!

Ron.

[Lizzie Zoom]

That all explains a lot!!

[Bigron]

Wot?

[Lizzie Zoom]

Wot?

The Corbyn and Abbott fling.  I was wondering how that bitch Abbott continues in the Shadow Cabinet after all the failings.  Now we know!

No wonder Corbyn seems to be keeping very quite with his head down over the Tories woes.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I don't think its anything to do with the fling. They are kindred spirits. Disciples of hard line Marxist Socialism. Hate Western Capitalism, especially the UK and USA. And support anything or anyone who is anti British or U.S., from the IRA to Hamas. In days gone by we could have hung the bastards for treason, but weve gone all soft and fluffy since then unfortunately.