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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Broken coil spring (front drivers side)
Broken coil spring (rear passenger side)

Broken exhaust bracket.

How much labour? Cost of parts?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Advisories.....nail in front tyre.

Suspension arm has slight play in pin/bush (inner upper curved arm)

[tunnie]

Going to need 4x new springs then. Rears cheap enough, but fronts could be pricey? Being in with all that FWD crap 

[2boxerdogs]

Springs broken Opti, nothing to do with buxom wenches is it ?😀

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Springs broken Opti, nothing to do with buxom wenches is it ?😀

Failed on broken coil springs last year.

So many f*ucking potholes.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Springs broken Opti, nothing to do with buxom wenches is it ?😀

All four should be broken.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I had a good look while the car was on the ramps.

It didn't fail on the exhaust itself but by next year I think it will. Eleven years old and original it can't last much longer.

[Nick W]

Going to need 4x new springs then. Rears cheap enough, but fronts could be pricey? Being in with all that FWD crap 

No different to an Omega: two bolts to the hub carrier, droplink, undo the top mount and out it comes. The springs ought to be cheaper, as there's still loads of Vectras about.


The design of the spring is more of the problem rather than the state of the roads.

[STEMO]

Awwww........I wanted to guess what it failed on. 

[STEMO]

Springs broken Opti, nothing to do with buxom wenches is it ?😀

Failed on broken coil springs last year.

So many f*ucking potholes.

I hit one this morning and how the wheel survived I don't know. Third world roads....and unlikely to improve any time soon.

[tunnie]

Going to need 4x new springs then. Rears cheap enough, but fronts could be pricey? Being in with all that FWD crap 

The design of the spring is more of the problem rather than the state of the roads.

Sounds like it if he replaced springs last year as well.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Awwww........I wanted to guess what it failed on. 

Instead of taking the piss out of an impoverished  former Omega owner you should be arranging a whip round.

Anyway the price is in.

£192 plus VAT. Two hours of labour at £35+VAT.

Could be worse.

[STEMO]

Awwww........I wanted to guess what it failed on. 

Instead of taking the piss out of an impoverished  former Omega owner you should be arranging a whip round.

Anyway the price is in.

£192 plus VAT. Two hours of labour at £35+VAT.

Could be worse.

I'd say that's very reasonable......for Lincolnshire. In South Yorkshire, of course, that would be a months wages.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Awwww........I wanted to guess what it failed on. 

Instead of taking the piss out of an impoverished  former Omega owner you should be arranging a whip round.

Anyway the price is in.

£192 plus VAT. Two hours of labour at £35+VAT.

Could be worse.

I'd say that's very reasonable......for Lincolnshire. In South Yorkshire, of course, that would be a months wages.

I'm an extremely charming young chap. People don't like to overcharge me.

[STEMO]

Awwww........I wanted to guess what it failed on. 

Instead of taking the piss out of an impoverished  former Omega owner you should be arranging a whip round.

Anyway the price is in.

£192 plus VAT. Two hours of labour at £35+VAT.

Could be worse.

I'd say that's very reasonable......for Lincolnshire. In South Yorkshire, of course, that would be a months wages.

I'm an extremely charming young chap. People don't like to overcharge me.

Either that or they felt sorry for you having to drive the dog, and knowing full well you'd be back for the same next year.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Awwww........I wanted to guess what it failed on. 

Instead of taking the piss out of an impoverished  former Omega owner you should be arranging a whip round.

Anyway the price is in.

£192 plus VAT. Two hours of labour at £35+VAT.

Could be worse.

I'd say that's very reasonable......for Lincolnshire. In South Yorkshire, of course, that would be a months wages.

I'm an extremely charming young chap. People don't like to overcharge me.

Either that or they felt sorry for you having to drive the dog, and knowing full well you'd be back for the same next year.

That is the cynical scouser in you coming out.

Anyway, I suppose I'll have to pay. I just won't eat for a month.

[Doctor Gollum]

Here do...

https://www.irmscher.com/de/spring-kit-5818.html

Normal springs are £40 is each...

[Sir Tigger KC]

I believe there is a nice V6 Omega Estate on ebay at the moment. 

You know it makes sense M'lud! 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Here do...

https://www.irmscher.com/de/spring-kit-5818.html

Normal springs are £40 is each...

Thanks, Al.

Does two hours labour at £35 P/H seem reasonable?

[Nick W]

Here do...

https://www.irmscher.com/de/spring-kit-5818.html

Normal springs are £40 is each...

Thanks, Al.

Does two hours labour at £35 P/H seem reasonable?

maybe a little long on time, but that hardly matters when the rate is that low

[STEMO]

Here do...

https://www.irmscher.com/de/spring-kit-5818.html

Normal springs are £40 is each...

Thanks, Al.

Does two hours labour at £35 P/H seem reasonable?

£35ph is very cheap, main dealers are around £100 now.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Here do...

https://www.irmscher.com/de/spring-kit-5818.html

Normal springs are £40 is each...

Thanks, Al.

Does two hours labour at £35 P/H seem reasonable?

£35ph is very cheap, main dealers are around £100 now.

In the shop as I type.

An independent garage owned by a very helpful young couple. They still show signs of enthusiasm for the task rather than the 'leave the fu*cking thing there mate and we'll get round to it when we can be arsed' attitude of the dealers.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

£29.95 for the MOT.

[STEMO]

MOT is £35 everywhere around here. I've booked mine in for MOT and service on 5th April with a local indie who was recommended to me. Being a five minute walk away makes it very handy too. We shall see.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

MOT is £35 everywhere around here. I've booked mine in for MOT and service on 5th April with a local indie who was recommended to me. Being a five minute walk away makes it very handy too. We shall see.

£54 at the Jaguar dealer.

I think they charge the most they are legally allowed to.

[STEMO]

I really don't care what I pay for the test, it's the bastids who fail it so they can sell you the work that I despise.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I really don't care what I pay for the test, it's the bastids who fail it so they can sell you the work that I despise.

All motorists are between a rock and a hard place.

Much of MOT testing is down to interpretation and opinion. If they are looking for business it is easy fro them to find something expensive to repair.

I shall be asking for my broken coil springs to be returned......just to check.

[Kevin Wood]

I really don't care what I pay for the test, it's the bastids who fail it so they can sell you the work that I despise.

Normally those who charge significantly less than the maximum!

I go to a local "under the arches" type two-man-band garage. He charges the maximum (50 odd quid) but when you consider that it's getting on for a hour's labour these days, plus the investment in kit and training that is required to offer the service, I think that's fair.

He is also fair, because he's made his money charging for the test and doesn't have to find faults to try and drum up some repair work.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I really don't care what I pay for the test, it's the bastids who fail it so they can sell you the work that I despise.

Normally those who charge significantly less than the maximum!

I go to a local "under the arches" type two-man-band garage. He charges the maximum (50 odd quid) but when you consider that it's getting on for a hour's labour these days, plus the investment in kit and training that is required to offer the service, I think that's fair.

He is also fair, because he's made his money charging for the test and doesn't have to find faults to try and drum up some repair work.

'Tis true'......or can be true.

But the unscrupulous have no qualms about charging the full test fee and finding lots of unnecessary work with which to fleece the customer.   

[aaronjb]

I go to wherever I can find a tester with a white stick.

[amba]

I have used the same family business for MOT,s over the past 25 years and am now almost a family friend.

Cuppa when I arrive and a good chat with which of the 2 sons is tasked with the test.If ever anything requires attention I am fully advised with a full visual inspection of what is required,along with the usual comments of " I wish everybody looked after their cars as well as you do "..nice I think.

They, like Kevin,s place,make money from the test and basic service work.I am happy to pay the £40 its been since I can remember.

[Kevin Wood]

I go to wherever I can find a tester with a white stick.

Just don't let him poke the sills with it. 

[tunnie]

I go to wherever I can find a tester with a white stick.

Just don't let him poke the sills with it. 

He can with mine 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The mighty Signum returns with an MOT to 13th April 2019.

£232.20 plus £29.99 for the MOT........ So £262.19.

I could buy up nearly all the remaining Omega in the world for that.

[STEMO]

The mighty Signum returns with an MOT to 13th April 2019.

£232.20 plus £29.99 for the MOT........ So £262.19.

I could buy up nearly all the remaining Omega in the world for that.

A tankful for the jag.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The mighty Signum returns with an MOT to 13th April 2019.

£232.20 plus £29.99 for the MOT........ So £262.19.

I could buy up nearly all the remaining Omega in the world for that.

A tankful for the jag.

The Jag has a pissy little tank. About 60 litres, I think.

[Sir Tigger KC]

The mighty Signum returns with an MOT to 13th April 2019.

£232.20 plus £29.99 for the MOT........ So £262.19.

I could buy up nearly all the remaining Omega in the world for that.

That's not bad to keep your old shitter going for another 12 months! 

[aaronjb]

The Jag has a pissy little tank. About 60 litres, I think.

I was looking at Touareg's the other day .. I notice (new) you can spec a 100L fuel tank.

My first thought was "Christ, that would be eye watering to fill.." - I wonder if that has an impact on the shrinkage of tanks; fuel is more expensive and manufacturers don't want people wincing every time they fill their car? Then again, I imagine Jaguar owners have the butler do it so they'd never know...

[henryd]

The Jag has a pissy little tank. About 60 litres, I think.

I was looking at Touareg's the other day .. I notice (new) you can spec a 100L fuel tank.

My first thought was "Christ, that would be eye watering to fill.." - I wonder if that has an impact on the shrinkage of tanks; fuel is more expensive and manufacturers don't want people wincing every time they fill their car? Then again, I imagine Jaguar owners have the butler do it so they'd never know...

Mine has that as standard,like a bottomless pit ,but on the upside almost 700 mile range when full

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The Jag has a pissy little tank. About 60 litres, I think.

I was looking at Touareg's the other day .. I notice (new) you can spec a 100L fuel tank.

My first thought was "Christ, that would be eye watering to fill.." - I wonder if that has an impact on the shrinkage of tanks; fuel is more expensive and manufacturers don't want people wincing every time they fill their car? Then again, I imagine Jaguar owners have the butler do it so they'd never know...

I believe Tata also sell Rickshaws.

[aaronjb]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

Sorry, I thought we'd already covered that before the inevitable thread drift..

Too much bouncy bouncy! If it's not you, you might want to have a word with that butler in case he's knocking off the scullery maid while you're not looking...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

Sorry, I thought we'd already covered that before the inevitable thread drift..

Too much bouncy bouncy! If it's not you, you might want to have a word with that butler in case he's knocking off the scullery maid while you're not looking...

  He'll be out on the bones of his arse, with no references, if I find out he has been slipping a length to a member of my staff.

[Kevin Wood]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

Sorry, I thought we'd already covered that before the inevitable thread drift..

Too much bouncy bouncy! If it's not you, you might want to have a word with that butler in case he's knocking off the scullery maid while you're not looking...

  He'll be out on the bones of his arse, with no references, if I find out he has been slipping a length to a member of my staff.

You're clearly not keeping her satisfied, Opti. Must try harder.

[Doctor Gollum]

The Jag has a pissy little tank. About 60 litres, I think.

I was looking at Touareg's the other day .. I notice (new) you can spec a 100L fuel tank.

My first thought was "Christ, that would be eye watering to fill.." - I wonder if that has an impact on the shrinkage of tanks; fuel is more expensive and manufacturers don't want people wincing every time they fill their car? Then again, I imagine Jaguar owners have the butler do it so they'd never know...

It's probably a result of packaging/weight reduction...

Re proper tanks, on a large luxury vehicle, a relatively big tank is needed to provide an acceptable range... Important in places where the nearest shop is two hours away or your nearest neighbour is 200km away... Which is rather ironic considering that the target markets for such vehicles are affluent urban areas

[Sir Tigger KC]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

You're overloading it on it's runs to the tip? 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

You're overloading it on it's runs to the tip? 

Yes....I shouldn't be using a valuable future classic for moving crap about.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

You're overloading it on it's runs to the tip? 

Yes....I shouldn't be using an old shitter for moving crap about.

  

[tunnie]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

You're overloading it on it's runs to the tip? 

Yes....I shouldn't be using a valuable future classic for moving crap about.

Anytime you move the Signum that’s “moving crap” about. 

[STEMO]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

You're overloading it on it's runs to the tip? 

Yes....I shouldn't be using a valuable future classic for moving crap about.

Anytime you move the Signum that’s “moving crap” about. 

Ouch! 

[biggriffin]

Whilst about my business today, I was proceeding along a road in Lincolnshire, the traffic slowed briefly, my eyes were drawn to,what can only be hailed as a workers cottage, tucked away was a mighty signum, and a jaaaag, now was the lord visiting a cumly wench, or was this or lords "pile" there was also a couple of laptops strewn about the place..

I did give a cheerful blast on the horns.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I have been thinking about my comments on this thread and have realised that I owe Lord Opti an apology for calling his Mighty Signum an old shitter. 

So I apologise M'lud, as I now think that you are right in that the Signum will become a modern classic. 

Much like the Vauxhall Belmont, Ford Orion or the Citroen BX! 

[STEMO]

I have been thinking about my comments on this thread and have realised that I owe Lord Opti an apology for calling his Mighty Signum an old shitter. 

So I apologise M'lud, as I now think that you are right in that the Signum will become a modern classic. 

Much like the Vauxhall Belmont, Ford Orion or the Citroen BX! 

And omega.......you forgot omega.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I want to know why I suffer so many broken coil springs...?

One last MOT and two this MOT.

You're overloading it on it's runs to the tip? 

Yes....I shouldn't be using a valuable future classic for moving crap about.

Anytime you move the Signum that’s “moving crap” about. 

Ouch! 

You are a a bunch of philistines and can all far cough.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I have been thinking about my comments on this thread and have realised that I owe Lord Opti an apology for calling his Mighty Signum an old shitter. 

So I apologise M'lud, as I now think that you are right in that the Signum will become a modern classic. 

Much like the Vauxhall Belmont, Ford Orion or the Citroen BX! 

And omega.......you forgot omega.

......and don't forget the classic Mondeo Titty X.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I have been thinking about my comments on this thread and have realised that I owe Lord Opti an apology for calling his Mighty Signum an old shitter. 

So I apologise M'lud, as I now think that you are right in that the Signum will become a modern classic. 

Much like the Vauxhall Belmont, Ford Orion or the Citroen BX! 

And omega.......you forgot omega.

......and don't forget the classic Mondeo Titty X.

No that'll never be a classic and I've never made any claims otherwise.  My Mondeo is a comfy, pokey (for a DERV) hack that handles reasonably well for a FWD and is fairly cheap to run.    My BMW E39 however... 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I have been thinking about my comments on this thread and have realised that I owe Lord Opti an apology for calling his Mighty Signum an old shitter. 

So I apologise M'lud, as I now think that you are right in that the Signum will become a modern classic. 

Much like the Vauxhall Belmont, Ford Orion or the Citroen BX! 

And omega.......you forgot omega.

......and don't forget the classic Mondeo Titty X.

No that'll never be a classic and I've never made any claims otherwise.  My Mondeo is a comfy, pokey (for a DERV) hack that handles reasonably well for a FWD and is fairly cheap to run.  My BMW E39 however... 

The 5 litre V8 M5 version is rising in value. A fine car.

The 'Bangle BMW's' do nothing for me. Was it really necessary to make these car so Fugly?.