Topic: My computer won't go to sleep! (Read 3634 times)

Bigron · « **on:** 31 May 2018, 21:04:46 »

Ok, not a life-threatrning problem, but very annoying nonetheless.
Until fairly recently, when I pressed the "Sleep" button on my keyboard (Microsof Internet Keyboard), my PC obliged by going to sleep but retaining all open documents.Suddenly, it went into a major sulk and strared to snooze and then stalled, giving thew message "Preparing to Standby" and going no further.
Any ideas from the I.T squad, please?

Ron.

zirk · « **Reply #1 on:** 31 May 2018, 21:22:26 »

Sleep and Stand By is pretty much the same thing Ron, did you mean Hibernation (Save to Disk then Power Off)

Bigron · « **Reply #2 on:** 31 May 2018, 21:25:55 »

No, not hibernation - I don't think? The keyboard button simply says "Sleep" and when it worked the PC made all of the usual closing-down noises, but retained all Data, so in the morning when I pressed the Mains "on" button, it returned to where I left it before we both went to bed!

Ron.

zirk · « **Reply #3 on:** 31 May 2018, 21:33:49 »

Difficult to say re the Keyboard could be a number of things, setting have changed etc, you can program the "What happens when I press the Power Button" ie, Shut Down, Sleep/Stand By, Hinbinate etc, that would be my first call, in Setting Power Management or what ever is called this week, set to Sleep, then see if it work when you press the Button briefly, it will work or say something like something is preventing your machine to sleep etc. if it works then that will tell you its not a Sleep issue, but something to do with Keyboard, Drivers settings etc, if it doesn't work it may tell you why?

Bigron · « **Reply #4 on:** 31 May 2018, 21:41:23 »

Ok, I think I got that; I'll try it on something unimportant tomorrow.
Thanks, Zirk.

Ron.

zirk · « **Reply #5 on:** 31 May 2018, 21:56:36 »

In win7 or 8 it will be in - Control Panel / Hardware and Sound / Power Options / System Settings

In Win10, depending what ver you have it will be something like - Settings / System / Power and Sleep / Additional Power Settings

theres a "When I press the Power Button" for that Option, also check, there should be "When I Press the Sleep Button" so see what that is set to

Bigron · « **Reply #6 on:** 31 May 2018, 22:05:19 »

Yike, too posh for me! I have Windows XP.....

Ron.

zirk · « **Reply #7 on:** 31 May 2018, 22:14:07 »

Quote from: Bigron on 31 May 2018, 22:05:19

Yike, too posh for me! I have Windows XP.....

Ron.

Should be in Control Panel similar to 7.

I wont bore about XP, as you've probably heard it all before, but you really need to address that as your open to all sorts of potential risks.

Bigron · « **Reply #8 on:** 31 May 2018, 22:19:26 »

Yep, TB and others have ~~kicked my arse~~ made disparaging remarks about my OS! When fewer people stop making demands on my pension, I will upgrade.

Ron.

ronnyd · « **Reply #9 on:** 31 May 2018, 22:40:01 »

My brother in law installed Linux Mint for me a few weeks ago. So far, so good.

Steve B · « **Reply #10 on:** 31 May 2018, 23:35:15 »

Hit it with a hammer...then it will go to sleep...it works with the wife

Bigron · « **Reply #11 on:** 31 May 2018, 23:37:15 »

It worked with the Mother-in-Law too - she never woke up!

Ron.

TheBoy · « **Reply #12 on:** 02 June 2018, 08:50:01 »

Usual reason for not going to sleep is driver related, although apps can also stop it.

XP lacks some of the more advanced tools for tracing, but nobody is daft enough to use XP

. Not sure its work wasting time on TBH.

Need to ascertain what sleep its going into:

S3/Suspend to RAM (STR) - faster to sleep and to wake, but power must not be removed from PC, as it needs to provide a small amount of power to keep the RAM refreshed
S1/Hibernate/Suspend to Disk - slower to sleep/wake, but power can be removed, as the volatile data is copied to the disk.

S3 is the hardest of the 2 for the PC to achieve, particularly on older machines running older software.

But, honestly, that PC needs replacing. Don't you have a family member throwing out an older Win7 PC? What spec if the PC, can't it be upgraded to a later OS?

Bigron · « **Reply #13 on:** 02 June 2018, 09:34:30 »

Don't beat about the bush, TB, come right out with it - you think my PC is outdated crap, right?
I WILL upgrade (honest!), when funds allow, but there are other priorities for my disposable income (pension) to consider first.

Ron.

dave the builder · « **Reply #14 on:** 02 June 2018, 09:41:30 »

have a look in control panel , click system icon
what processor and how much memory does your abacus have ?
it may be up-gradable

Bigron · « **Reply #15 on:** 02 June 2018, 09:57:56 »

I have the maximum allowable memory installed. Here are its vital statistics:-

Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United Kingdom)
Installed: 20/08/2012 13:27:34
Boot Mode: BIOS (Secure Boot not supported)
System Model FUJITSU SIEMENS SCENIC P / SCENICO P
System Serial Number: YBEM532307
Asset Tag: YBEM532307
Chassis Serial Number: YBEM532307
Enclosure Type: Mini-Tower
Processor a 2.65 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
8 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Not hyper-threaded
Main Circuit Board b Board: FUJITSU SIEMENS D1451 S26361-D1451
Serial Number: 13036569
Bus Clock: 533 megahertz
BIOS: FUJITSU SIEMENS // Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 4.06 Rev. 1.03.1451 11/05/2003
Drives 200.05 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
46.59 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 [Optical drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

HP USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2
WDC WD1600AVBB-63SYA0 [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 1, s/n WD-WMAP9A925912, rev 00.07H00, SMART Status: Healthy
WDC WD400LB-07DNA2 [Hard drive] (40.02 GB) -- drive 0, rev 79.07B79, SMART Status: Healthy
Memory Modules c,d 2040 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

Slot 'DIMM-1' has 1024 MB
Slot 'DIMM-2' has 1024 MB
Local Drive Volumes

c: (NTFS on drive 0) *    40.01 GB    5.90 GB free
e: (NTFS on drive 1)    160.04 GB    40.70 GB free
* Operating System is installed on c:

Ron.

TheBoy · « **Reply #16 on:** 02 June 2018, 10:01:38 »

Quote from: Bigron on 02 June 2018, 09:34:30

you think my PC is outdated crap, right?

Yup.

And, remember, my laptop here, in the bath with me as we speak, is 11yrs old... ...so I'm not one of these must have latest-and-greatest

TheBoy · « **Reply #17 on:** 02 June 2018, 10:05:16 »

Quote from: Bigron on 02 June 2018, 09:57:56

System Model FUJITSU SIEMENS SCENIC P / SCENICO P
Processor a 2.65 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
Not hyper-threaded

Yes, scrap it. It could run Win7 "OK-ish", esp if you popped in an SSD, but you're looking at £30 for the SSD (120Gb) and £60 for the Win7 licence. So £80 down, and still an old P4 sat there trying to make your leccy meter spin faster.

Bigron · « **Reply #18 on:** 02 June 2018, 10:06:31 »

Laptop in the bath with you - can you see where you went wrong there?

Ron.

TheBoy · « **Reply #19 on:** 02 June 2018, 10:12:01 »

Quote from: Bigron on 02 June 2018, 10:06:31

Laptop in the bath with you - can you see where you went wrong there?

Ron.

Its the only time I get to surf OOF

Back to specs, this laptop is a Core2 Duo 2Ghz, 2Gb RAM, 965 chipset and graphics, 240Gb SSD, Windows 10 (1803) Pro.

It runs OK-ish for most browsing tasks and general office work, and actually is my laptop I pick up to do most stuff, despite having a newer early i5 Lenovo and a PoS top end 2017 MacBook Pro.

Webpages with lots of embedded ads, like egay (or the Jag forums - all of them), make it stutter loading webpages though. That's just shear lack of grunt.

Bigron · « **Reply #20 on:** 02 June 2018, 10:16:30 »

I'm sure you're right, TB, 'cos you are clever and I am not.
I suppose I'll just have to sell my body until I have enoiugh to upgrade. Er, the PC, not my body!

Ron.

dave the builder · « **Reply #21 on:** 02 June 2018, 10:45:04 »

Quote from: TheBoy on 02 June 2018, 10:05:16

Yes, scrap it.

I disagree
yes, find another computer for internet etc ,
BUT , the old XP machine would be good air gap diagnostic machine ,add a cheap obd2 scan tool and bore scope etc

ex corporate core 2 duo with 4GB of ram ,windows 10 desktop can be had on ebay very cheap (cheaper than buying win7 $:-\$ )
good enough to watch youtube video, browse forums ,check emil
I doubt Bigron is wanting to play the latest games or encode vydeo etc

something like this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fast-Cheap-PC-HP-Compaq-8000-Elite-SFF-DC-2-70Ghz-4GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-Win-10/322610947630?hash=item4b1d1c662e:g:CTIAAOSwQQlbBYGS

zirk · « **Reply #22 on:** 02 June 2018, 15:26:26 »

Hvae you tried the 'Setting the Power Button to Sleep' yet Ron, if so, what was the outcome?.

TheBoy · « **Reply #23 on:** 02 June 2018, 19:59:57 »

Quote from: dave the builder on 02 June 2018, 10:45:04

I disagree
yes, find another computer for internet etc ,
BUT , the old XP machine would be good air gap diagnostic machine ,add a cheap obd2 scan tool and bore scope etc

I believe the OPs machine is a desktop (actually, given its a Scenic, I know it is - the Fushitsu Scenic is a particularly shit machine, even 15yrs ago

), so not ideal.

So, its a worthwhile idea, but probably not for what the OP has.

I myself have an XP laptop (Dell Latitude D505) with the Wifi adapter removed (so no mong can re-enable it) that's used for Testbook (a particularly fussy diags platform, that takes over the entire PC). I have another XP laptop (HP 6820s) that's used for SDD (another particularly fussy diags platform, that takes over the entire PC and doesn't coexist well with other stuff).

dave the builder · « **Reply #24 on:** 02 June 2018, 20:15:05 »

Oh

I thought it was a laptop , I must learn to read one day

I've a few legacy laptops that i keep for older software ,diagnostic interfaces and epos software etc

what are your thoughts on that base unit ,i found in your fave on-line shopping place for Bigron's needs ?
given , he has a screen,keyboard etc ,

I imagine his mattress would not be much lower if he dug a pair of £20 notes from under it

zirk · « **Reply #25 on:** 02 June 2018, 20:57:36 »

Quote from: TheBoy on 02 June 2018, 19:59:57

I myself have an XP laptop (Dell Latitude D505) with the Wifi adapter removed (so no mong can re-enable it) that's used for Testbook (a particularly fussy diags platform, that takes over the entire PC). I have another XP laptop (HP 6820s) that's used for SDD (another particularly fussy diags platform, that takes over the entire PC and doesn't coexist well with other stuff).

I got a really old XP Lappy with a Square'al Screen, like you Ive diss'ed the Wifi, I use it purely for Programming modern 2018 spec Trunked Radios, as its the only machine I have left (I really have tried hard to find another) that will talk to the Radios using a real Comm Port with a simple RS232 Lead, nothing else will do, USB Emulation or not, problem is the Machine really is on its last legs, but it is what it is.

Steve B · « **Reply #26 on:** 02 June 2018, 22:02:03 »

Quote from: TheBoy on 02 June 2018, 10:12:01

Quote from: Bigron on 02 June 2018, 10:06:31
Laptop in the bath with you - can you see where you went wrong there?

Ron.
Its the only time I get to surf OOF

Back to specs, this laptop is a Core2 Duo 2Ghz, 2Gb RAM, 965 chipset and graphics, 240Gb SSD, Windows 10 (1803) Pro.

It runs OK-ish for most browsing tasks and general office work, and actually is my laptop I pick up to do most stuff, despite having a newer early i5 Lenovo and a PoS top end 2017 MacBook Pro.

Webpages with lots of embedded ads, like egay (or the Jag forums - all of them), make it stutter loading webpages though. That's just shear lack of grunt.

TB...So when you are on here you are always in the nude are you..

TheBoy · « **Reply #27 on:** 03 June 2018, 08:58:08 »

Quote from: dave the builder on 02 June 2018, 20:15:05

what are your thoughts on that base unit ,i found in your fave on-line shopping place for Bigron's needs ?
given , he has a screen,keyboard etc ,

It looks to have PS/2 ports, which will match OPs stuff, though I'd still go for something newer and buy a cheap USB keyboard/mouse set for a fiver...

...but if costs really are that tight, it would do the job... ...slowly.

TheBoy · « **Reply #28 on:** 03 June 2018, 09:00:08 »

Quote from: Steve B on 02 June 2018, 22:02:03

TB...So when you are on here you are always in the nude are you..

Probably about 90% of the time, yup

Now get that picture out of your head

Bigron · « **Reply #29 on:** 03 June 2018, 11:04:57 »

Did you HAVE to offer that thought on a Sunday morning, TB?
Where's my medication!

:

Ron.

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