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[dave the builder]

After driving round all day looking at rubbish french cars and other mpv things 
got a zafira A 2.0 dti elegance 
tidy and well looked after 2003 ,stupidly cheap 
(to replace the crapasso)
I need to do a quick service and check over brakes etc before it gets put into service
can i use the trade club 10w40 oil ? the little i have left 
will i get an oil filter from halfrauds ? assume there is only one type ?
halfrauds being round the corner from car and me not footing bill

anything i should check model specific ?

[TheBoy]

I have a Zaffy-A elegance 2.0DTi

I use TC 10w40 semi in it.

There are 2 different engine variants, and 2002/2003 was the cutover year.  Differences I know of are different electronics on top of the pump, different stat and I think different EGR.  Not sure if that impacts filter.

[dave the builder]

ok , thanks TB
will get the old filter off then and drip it over halfrauds floor till they give me a match 
or  test drive it to a decent factors 
good news on the oil being ok
now the whole fleet is one oil 

[TheBoy]

ok , thanks TB
will get the old filter off then and drip it over halfrauds floor till they give me a match 
or  test drive it to a decent factors 
good news on the oil being ok
now the whole fleet is one oil 

Do a check on a few sites by car model, say a 2004 one and a 2001 car (so as to avoid cutover period) to see if same filter

[dave the builder]

good idea , i can put the reg into euro car parts etc
thanks TB 

[TheBoy]

good idea , i can put the reg into euro car parts etc
thanks TB 

I'd not use reg, but look up different years.  ECP's part finder by reg is even worse than Halfords IME.

[TheBoy]

Quite an easy car to work on, but glow plugs are a shit. A real shit. A massive shit. Guess who sheared one

[TheBoy]

Not sure I'd fancy doing cambelt either.

[dave the builder]

good idea , i can put the reg into euro car parts etc
thanks TB 

I'd not use reg, but look up different years.  ECP's part finder by reg is even worse than Halfords IME.

so far seems there is one only
115.2  high x 32 inner x 65mm
can't get halfrauds search to work to check stock
my factors should know, they are pretty good and stock bosch oil filters
i will triangulate my route and call in , need pink anti freeze anyway

apparently From Aug 2001; Engine Code: Y20DTH
and that's off ebay , so it must be true info 

[TheBoy]

All the 100bhp ones are Y20DTH . But there are 2 different variants.

Do Halfords still do service parts like filters? Thought they had stopped.

[VXL V6]

Yes, there's a few service items in a dusty corner of our local store, once you've walked past the Panasonic and Sony HU's with the dustbin lid speakers underneath and the Austin Allegro Haynes manual in the reduced section.

[dave the builder]

All the 100bhp ones are Y20DTH . But there are 2 different variants.

that's 10 horses more than the crapasso then ,not that i will be driving it much , except when it needs fixing 

Do Halfords still do service parts like filters? Thought they had stopped.

I quite often pop in for spin on filters for the astra s in the fleet @ 3.99
corsa ones are 10 quid in halfrauds , so they get got at the factors for a fiver 
yes , i am a tight git 

Yes, there's a few service items in a dusty corner of our local store, once you've walked past the Panasonic and Sony HU's with the dustbin lid speakers underneath and the Austin Allegro Haynes manual in the reduced section.

may get him to order a haynes off TB's fave internet auction site 

[TheBoy]

may get him to order a haynes off TB's fave internet auction site 

I think its the Astra-G one from memory....

[dave the builder]

may get him to order a haynes off TB's fave internet auction site 

I think its the Astra-G one from memory....

the astra g one I have somewhere  but the 8v and 16v engine i could do a rebuild without it , it does have good wiring diagrams in though (those pages are well thumbed )

, but there is a haynes for the dirty diesel zafira a and astra g
which would be handy for me because i will have to look at water pump,turbo  etc long term
It's on 105k and very quiet , pulls well ,no leaks at the moment
not many dents either YET 

[dave the builder]

Not sure I'd fancy doing cambelt either.

appears to be a chain not belt 

if you can snap 1 glow plug , wait til i get my fat fingers at em 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Inlet manifold clean........?

[dave the builder]

Inlet manifold clean........?

Nope 
black oily residue
read all the modules ,just a stored code for EGR ,cleared , not that that means it will stay clear 
not lacking power, but i guess the turbo needs replacement if oil in the intercooler and throtthe body etc
(though the pipe from the turbo to cat looks brand new,did not check the turbo for newness)
sump plug is well in and stripped of any hope of a torx fitting doing anything to undo it 
(i did consider removing one of the sender units to drain sump) but no point....
oil filter cover is stupid tight ,so i need to order a 36mm ? socket
so the oil change never happened
topped up (no leaks from the engine )
n/s wheel bearing requires replacement ,
factors never had the air filter

fun

[TheBoy]

Inlet manifold clean........?

I've tried to erase that saga from my memory .

I should charge you for all that dirty, oily, sooty shite you took out of mine...  ...I'd be rich

[STEMO]

Inlet manifold clean........?

Nope 
black oily residue
read all the modules ,just a stored code for EGR ,cleared , not that that means it will stay clear 
not lacking power, but i guess the turbo needs replacement if oil in the intercooler and throtthe body etc
(though the pipe from the turbo to cat looks brand new,did not check the turbo for newness)
sump plug is well in and stripped of any hope of a torx fitting doing anything to undo it 
(i did consider removing one of the sender units to drain sump) but no point....
oil filter cover is stupid tight ,so i need to order a 36mm ? socket
so the oil change never happened
topped up (no leaks from the engine )
n/s wheel bearing requires replacement ,
factors never had the air filter

fun

I find the way to get around all of this is to buy a decent car in the first place.

[dave the builder]

I find the way to get around all of this is to buy a decent car in the first place.

it's a solid car, well looked after ,car pass, history
purchased cheap , so plenty in the budget to get service items etc
happy to bolt parts onto a decent car
wheel bearing ,about £50
turbo cartridge £100 
ariel £4

i'll underseal/ rust proof  it
repair when needed the mechanical items

turbo or wheel bearing can go on a £10,000 car 
this car all done will be 1/10 th of that 

[TheBoy]

but i guess the turbo needs replacement if oil in the intercooler and throtthe body etc

They do seem to allow a fair bit of oil into the inlet, possible one reason they are prone to the inlets getting sooted up when it meets the shit from the exhaust.  That DTM fella condemmed my original turbo due to sheer amount of play in it.

sump plug is well in and stripped of any hope of a torx fitting doing anything to undo it 

Had that on tunnie's 2.2, so got a new plug, and just used waterpump pliers to remove old. Should be room to get similar in the DTi plug area

oil filter cover is stupid tight ,so i need to order a 36mm ? socket

Correct

[TheBoy]

See this thread for my dirty inlets https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=138958.0

[dave the builder]

but i guess the turbo needs replacement if oil in the intercooler and throtthe body etc

They do seem to allow a fair bit of oil into the inlet, possible one reason they are prone to the inlets getting sooted up when it meets the shit from the exhaust.  That DTM fella condemmed my original turbo due to sheer amount of play in it.

sump plug is well in and stripped of any hope of a torx fitting doing anything to undo it 

Had that on tunnie's 2.2, so got a new plug, and just used waterpump pliers to remove old. Should be room to get similar in the DTi plug area

oil filter cover is stupid tight ,so i need to order a 36mm ? socket

Correct

Thanks for the info TB 

I ordered this crap kit for a tenner for the oil filter removal
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5Pc-Oil-Filter-Remover-Wrench-Set-3-8-24mm-27mm-32mm-36mm-38mm/222333142054?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
it won't be done up stupid tight from now on , so the 36mm socket will be fine for future use

I have another sump plug and will get the old chewed one out ,just did not have it with me on the day and did not want to render the zaf un-usable (the hire car went back ,the crapasso is dead)

found a turbo core kit for £95 on your fave on-line auction site ,so i will check the turbo next week ,along with the service,strip brakes ,new n/s wheel bearing .

It's quite a nice ,well built motor with lots of toys ,
 very tight under the bonnet to do work , but i'm use to not having skin on my knuckles 
once again , thanks for your input 

[TheBoy]

Oil filter cap should only be something low, like 15Nm from memory - in bath, can't check TIS currently.

It's quite a nice ,well built motor with lots of toys ,

Zaffy-A Elegance? Toys? Like what?

Have you been drinking heavily this morning, Mr Builder

[henryd]

but i guess the turbo needs replacement if oil in the intercooler and throtthe body etc

They do seem to allow a fair bit of oil into the inlet, possible one reason they are prone to the inlets getting sooted up when it meets the shit from the exhaust.  That DTM fella condemmed my original turbo due to sheer amount of play in it.

sump plug is well in and stripped of any hope of a torx fitting doing anything to undo it 

Had that on tunnie's 2.2, so got a new plug, and just used waterpump pliers to remove old. Should be room to get similar in the DTi plug area

oil filter cover is stupid tight ,so i need to order a 36mm ? socket

Correct

Thanks for the info TB 

I ordered this crap kit for a tenner for the oil filter removal
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5Pc-Oil-Filter-Remover-Wrench-Set-3-8-24mm-27mm-32mm-36mm-38mm/222333142054?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
it won't be done up stupid tight from now on , so the 36mm socket will be fine for future use

I have another sump plug and will get the old chewed one out ,just did not have it with me on the day and did not want to render the zaf un-usable (the hire car went back ,the crapasso is dead)

found a turbo core kit for £95 on your fave on-line auction site ,so i will check the turbo next week ,along with the service,strip brakes ,new n/s wheel bearing .

It's quite a nice ,well built motor with lots of toys ,
 very tight under the bonnet to do work , but i'm use to not having skin on my knuckles 
once again , thanks for your input 

Have the shower of shit that ruined it been taken to task yet

[dave the builder]

Oil filter cap should only be something low, like 15Nm from memory - in bath, can't check TIS currently.

It's quite a nice ,well built motor with lots of toys ,

Zaffy-A Elegance? Toys? Like what?

Have you been drinking heavily this morning, Mr Builder

only about 4 strong coffees  may have a shandy later 

it's far from poverty spec
trip computer like the omega ,steering wheel radio controls,front and back lecky windows ,abs,alloy wheels,a/c,electric roof,front fogs,adjustable steering wheel,heated elec mirrors, factory alarm

you have to remember , i was driving a carlton for 18 years , till recently 

says airbags at the top of the screen/A pillar caps ? is that curtain airbags ?

[TheBoy]

Its one of the lowest spec cars I've had for many years, including the leased Rover 400s she used to get.

I shoved a NCDR1100 in mine so at least I can add satnav to the list, purely because I had it laying around, and the cdr500 needed a code

[dave the builder]

,the crapasso is dead)

Have the shower of shit that ruined it been taken to task yet

all in hand , got an independent report  awaiting response from clutch cowboys
we have to be polite ,patient , follow procedure

to be honest , i'd be much happier working on this zaf than the crapasso anyway
of the many crapassos i looked at the other day as a replacement , all had welded or holed cills and other issues , much shaking of my head , sucking through my teeth , swearing 
so i said ,in no uncertain terms ," BUY THIS VAUXHALL ZAFIRA " even though it says opel on the history 

Its one of the lowest spec cars I've had for many years, including the leased Rover 400s she used to get.

I shoved a NCDR1100 in mine so at least I can add satnav to the list, purely because I had it laying around, and the cdr500 needed a code

radio works (had to put the code in the cdr500  as it has a brand new battery )
roof ariel was missing ,but the replacement was about £4 delivered
still gets radio 1 fine till the ariel arrives , much to the annoyance of the zaf owner/family member
(who's over 70 ,listens to local radio shyte,rather than what noises his car is making  )

[TheBoy]

I must admit, the anti corrosion used on the Zaffy-A seems so much better than that on a similar aged Omega.  You don't see many rusty ones.

My 2002 model seems to be solid enough underneath.

[dave the builder]

I must admit, the anti corrosion used on the Zaffy-A seems so much better than that on a similar aged Omega.  You don't see many rusty ones.

My 2002 model seems to be solid enough underneath.

yes , I was surprised how rust free the zafira was for a 15 year old car
also , disappointed with the p155 poor job opel did at rust proofing my newer omega
i'm improving on the rust proofing on the omega
i will wax oil the chasis legs,cills etc on the zafira too 

that intake clog you had was shocking 

the zafira has done over 300 mlles so far without issue 

[tunnie]

All the 100bhp ones are Y20DTH . But there are 2 different variants.

Do Halfords still do service parts like filters? Thought they had stopped.

Just 100 ponies 

Don't think I could ever drive something with so few horses under the bonnet.   

Given how old it is, could have lost a few and have around 90! 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

My car had 90 when it left the factory 28 years ago. Dread to think how many have escaped during its 239,000 miles. 
The secret is to get up to speed and then don't slow down if you can possibly avoid it. 

[dave the builder]

All the 100bhp ones are Y20DTH . But there are 2 different variants.

Do Halfords still do service parts like filters? Thought they had stopped.

Just 100 ponies 

Don't think I could ever drive something with so few horses under the bonnet.   

Given how old it is, could have lost a few and have around 90! 

I'm not worried about the 100 BHP , or even 90 BHP because the crapasso was only 90 BHP to start with (non turbo 2.0 HDi 100k miles) plus I won't be driving it on a regular basis
with a new turbo core, good service,105 k on the clock , i doubt it will be far off 100 anyway
plus, it's for an OAP ,doubt he does many street races for pink slips 

My car had 90 when it left the factory 28 years ago. Dread to think how many have escaped during its 239,000 miles. 
The secret is to get up to speed and then don't slow down if you can possibly avoid it. 

Indeed , my omega v6 carries lots of tools etc ,and is a heavy lard arse lump to begin with , so i "get up to speed and then don't slow down if I can possibly avoid it." 
plus , them brake pad things cost money 

[Shackeng]

,the crapasso is dead)

Have the shower of shit that ruined it been taken to task yet

all in hand , got an independent report  awaiting response from clutch cowboys
we have to be polite ,patient , follow procedure

to be honest , i'd be much happier working on this zaf than the crapasso anyway
of the many crapassos i looked at the other day as a replacement , all had welded or holed cills and other issues , much shaking of my head , sucking through my teeth , swearing 
so i said ,in no uncertain terms ," BUY THIS VAUXHALL ZAFIRA " even though it says opel on the history 

Its one of the lowest spec cars I've had for many years, including the leased Rover 400s she used to get.

I shoved a NCDR1100 in mine so at least I can add satnav to the list, purely because I had it laying around, and the cdr500 needed a code

radio works (had to put the code in the cdr500  as it has a brand new battery )
roof ariel was missing ,but the replacement was about £4 delivered
still gets radio 1 fine till the ariel arrives , much to the annoyance of the zaf owner/family member
(who's over 70 ,listens to local radio shyte,rather than what noises his car is making  )

SOP for us pensioners.

[dave the builder]

radio works (had to put the code in the cdr500  as it has a brand new battery )
roof ariel was missing ,but the replacement was about £4 delivered
still gets radio 1 fine till the ariel arrives , much to the annoyance of the zaf owner/family member
(who's over 70 ,listens to local radio shyte,rather than what noises his car is making  )

SOP for us pensioners.

I don't know what "SOP" is  guessing not good 
If you found my comment offensive , I'm sorry 
I was not trying to disrespect ALL c̶o̶f̶f̶i̶n̶ ̶d̶o̶d̶g̶e̶r̶s̶ older drivers , just my relative
who drives back from the clutch cowboys second failed attempt, listening to the radio 
rather than  what noise the clutch and gearbox are making

[aaronjb]

SOP - Standard Operating Procedure.. or "normal" in civvie speak

[TheBoy]

All the 100bhp ones are Y20DTH . But there are 2 different variants.

Do Halfords still do service parts like filters? Thought they had stopped.

Just 100 ponies 

Don't think I could ever drive something with so few horses under the bonnet.   

Given how old it is, could have lost a few and have around 90! 

Mine has lost many, many horses

[Shackeng]

radio works (had to put the code in the cdr500  as it has a brand new battery )
roof ariel was missing ,but the replacement was about £4 delivered
still gets radio 1 fine till the ariel arrives , much to the annoyance of the zaf owner/family member
(who's over 70 ,listens to local radio shyte,rather than what noises his car is making  )

SOP for us pensioners.

I don't know what "SOP" is  guessing not good 
If you found my comment offensive , I'm sorry 
I was not trying to disrespect ALL c̶o̶f̶f̶i̶n̶ ̶d̶o̶d̶g̶e̶r̶s̶ older drivers , just my relative
who drives back from the clutch cowboys second failed attempt, listening to the radio 
rather than  what noise the clutch and gearbox are making

Yep, 'normal' for us, with the volume control set to: 'Auto increase to drown out unwanted bearing or other potential disastrous noises.'

[henryd]

All the 100bhp ones are Y20DTH . But there are 2 different variants.

Do Halfords still do service parts like filters? Thought they had stopped.

Just 100 ponies 

Don't think I could ever drive something with so few horses under the bonnet.   

Given how old it is, could have lost a few and have around 90! 

I'm not worried about the 100 BHP , or even 90 BHP because the crapasso was only 90 BHP to start with (non turbo 2.0 HDi 100k miles) plus I won't be driving it on a regular basis
with a new turbo core, good service,105 k on the clock , i doubt it will be far off 100 anyway
plus, it's for an OAP ,doubt he does many street races for pink slips 

My car had 90 when it left the factory 28 years ago. Dread to think how many have escaped during its 239,000 miles. 
The secret is to get up to speed and then don't slow down if you can possibly avoid it. 

Indeed , my omega v6 carries lots of tools etc ,and is a heavy lard arse lump to begin with , so i "get up to speed and then don't slow down if I can possibly avoid it." 
plus , them brake pad things cost money 

All Hdi Picasso's are Turbo equipped

[dave the builder]

All Hdi Picasso's are Turbo equipped

I did not know that 
with no intercooler , and no hope of ever getting to the back of the engine 
It is a very good engine
just the rest of the car that's pants 

[henryd]

All Hdi Picasso's are Turbo equipped

I did not know that 
with no intercooler , and no hope of ever getting to the back of the engine 
It is a very good engine
just the rest of the car that's pants 

The 2.0 Hdi 90 never got an intercooler,the 110bhp version did but was never fitted to the picasso,the later 1.6Hdi was available with both outputs

[dave the builder]

All Hdi Picasso's are Turbo equipped

I did not know that 
with no intercooler , and no hope of ever getting to the back of the engine 
It is a very good engine
just the rest of the car that's pants 

The 2.0 Hdi 90 never got an intercooler,the 110bhp version did but was never fitted to the picasso,the later 1.6Hdi was available with both outputs

 i'm not buying any more crapassos ,even if the engine has 10 million BHP 
I know of a good low mile one ,just had the water pump and full cam belt kit done etc if your interested
just needs a gearbox ,clutch,wiring looms 

[dave the builder]

So I did get the sump plug out , thank you mole grips 
the cheapo oil filter socket set turned up on time and surprisingly good quality for £10 delivered 
had to remove the EGR plug to comfortably get the oil filter out and new one in ,
the haynes joke book says 5.4 L or 5 L with filter 
stripped the front brakes and lubed the guides etc
ordered new front and rear brake  pads and discs £71 delivered
(scored,uneven wear, lipped, probably the original discs)
wheel bearing with speed sender £30 delivered
fitted new wiper blades on the front ,dunno what they are meant to be but the pair of 24" ones I had spare (wrongly ordered for crapasso) fit and clear more screen than what ever was on (which where clearly the wrong size)
rear wiper was suffering the missing half the screen fault, so a new arm and blade ordered £10 delivered
air and oil filter was £8 delivered , new sump plug £2
last of my trade club oil , about £11 worth
brake fluid i have in stock
so, not very expensive to service it up
not that I will be footing the bill anyway 

In other news ,the clutch cowboys asked if they could recover the crapasso to head office to "see what had happened "
 er......... NO 
if they wish to inspect it , they can come and look , under my supervision. 

[dave the builder]

Cleaned up and lubed the  rear brakes, Replaced the pads and discs,  pumped the brakes ....HIssssssss
Hard brake pipe near spare wheel had split, rusted under a plastic clip
I replaced the line from nipple to nipple with copper 
Broke 2 wheel braces trying to get the front o/s wheel off 
(i'd stripped and cleaned the N/s last week and decided to order discs and pads all round )
stripped and cleaned the brakes, fitted new discs and pads
bled the brakes ,pulled through to clear fluid
what a stupid place to put the brake reservoir 
treated and undersealed around the subframe to chassis rail mounts
found the track rod end boot split, no play, so that can wait till MOT prep in march
Replaced the rear wiper arm, ariel,  new battery in the remote

My brother popped round while i was finishing it off ,putting tools away, and now he wants a Zafira too now 
(his astra g estate is due for retirement, it's 20 years old now)
looking at the 1.7cdti zaf b (55 mpg  ) as a replacement for the astra estate