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[terry paget]

How on earth do I get the shoes mechanism back in?

Does the cast block that the mechanism goes through have to come out in order to refit it?

Are we talking handbrake shoes? Are you doing a major brake overhaul?

[Andy A]

How on earth do I get the shoes mechanism back in?

Does the cast block that the mechanism goes through have to come out in order to refit it?

Are we talking handbrake shoes? Are you doing a major brake overhaul?

Yes the mechanism for the shoes that connects to the handbrake cable behind the hub. Took it out to clean and grease and can't get it back in.

Yes new discs, shoes, pads and handbrake cable.

[terry paget]

How on earth do I get the shoes mechanism back in?

Does the cast block that the mechanism goes through have to come out in order to refit it?

Are we talking handbrake shoes? Are you doing a major brake overhaul?

Yes the mechanism for the shoes that connects to the handbrake cable behind the hub. Took it out to clean and grease and can't get it back in.

Yes new discs, shoes, pads and handbrake cable.

Good luck! The handbrake can be hours of fun. As Doc says, you will have to learn how the scissors arrangement  - actuator - works, then push the cable lever in from the back and assemble it with the other lever and the spring clip, then locate the shoe ends in the expandable lever ends, then insert the tension spring.

[Andy A]

Can't wait. Have enough trouble getting up and down off the floor as it is.  ECP say they don't have any rear discs in stock so it will be a few days wait. Give me time to put the new handbrake cable in ready. 

[terry paget]

As said, hours of fun. Ingenious bit of kit, giving a 4:1 mechanical advantage. I have known the pin come loose, but it still worked, and I have left out the spring and it still worked. After 10 years it rusts, gets stiff and you loose the mechanical advantage, but it still functions after a fashion. Eventually it rusts solid, the cable breaks and the cable slips through the anchor coil and repairs are needed, but, shucks, cars are not designed to last 10 years.

[Andy A]

As said, hours of fun. Ingenious bit of kit, giving a 4:1 mechanical advantage. I have known the pin come loose, but it still worked, and I have left out the spring and it still worked. After 10 years it rusts, gets stiff and you loose the mechanical advantage, but it still functions after a fashion. Eventually it rusts solid, the cable breaks and the cable slips through the anchor coil and repairs are needed, but, shucks, cars are not designed to last 10 years.

That's the one Terry. Pins are lose in both of mine so should be fun in getting it back in unless I try and fix it in place with some supper glue first. Not sure that would work though.

[aaronjb]

Same design on the Jag rear end on the kit car, and I didn't find that bit hard to put together.. getting the retaining clips on the pins, however, is hours of fun for all the family! 

[Andy A]

As said, hours of fun. Ingenious bit of kit, giving a 4:1 mechanical advantage. I have known the pin come loose, but it still worked, and I have left out the spring and it still worked. After 10 years it rusts, gets stiff and you loose the mechanical advantage, but it still functions after a fashion. Eventually it rusts solid, the cable breaks and the cable slips through the anchor coil and repairs are needed, but, shucks, cars are not designed to last 10 years.

Is there a part number for the mechanism?

[Diamond Black Geezer]

90111317 for the 'swan neck' and
3432340 / 90496947 for the other bit. 

[Andy A]

90111317 for the 'swan neck' and
3432340 / 90496947 for the other bit. 

Thanks for the part numbers.

Am I correct that the pin should be solidly/permanently fixed to the swan part?

Both of mine have an oval hole where the pins go and the pins are very lose and won't stay in at all.

[aaronjb]

If they're like the Jag (and they look identical) then the pin is a slide fit - it should be a close but free fit in the (round!) hole.

Took me ages to find one of mine on the floor..

[Andy A]

If they're like the Jag (and they look identical) then the pin is a slide fit - it should be a close but free fit in the (round!) hole.

Took me ages to find one of mine on the floor..

Its the same one in the pic above.

Thanks

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Yes, the pin is 'separate' but 'part of' as said above. (I have a spare one in pieces at present, so I happen to know)


PS You're welcome on the part numbers 

[Andy B]

In over 20 years, I never ever saw the hand brake shoes on any of my Senators or Omega 

I put it down to infrequent use 

[Andy A]

In over 20 years, I never ever saw the hand brake shoes on any of my Senators or Omega 

I put it down to infrequent use 

The bloke at my local garage advised me to only half pull the handbrake up while parked on the drive to save stretching the handbrake cable because I only use the car local, most of the time and not very often these days. I think this might of been my downfall and caused it all to seize up. Not fully using the full motion of the handbrake.