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[STEMO]

This bridge is certainly something to marvel at:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-43779631

[Varche]

Yes impressive. I bet they didn't spend years on public enquiries!

[STEMO]

Yes impressive. I bet they didn't spend years on public enquiries!

Bet they didn't even stop for an hour when each of the seven workers were killed either 

[Rods2]

Impressive bridge, but I'm sure the Boris bridge to NI will be longer and their due to start building it any week now.

[aaronjb]

I clench buttocks just driving over the bridge into Wales.. that one would definitely leave a 50p shaped imprint in the drivers seat

[Bigron]

I know that feeling, Aaron - I first experienced it when I climbed to the top of the Monument in London: made my 'dangle berries' tingle too!
For those poor people from "oop norf", the Monument is a tall tower built on the site of the Great Fire of London. It's bloody high and has a simple cage around the top platform, leaving you feeling VERY exposed and vulnerable. Also quite knackered after climbing the 311 steps of the spiral staircase to get to the top!

Ron.

[Mister Rog]

I clench buttocks just driving over the bridge into Wales.. that one would definitely leave a 50p shaped imprint in the drivers seat

Don't worry. It will be free to cross soon.

[2boxerdogs]

Very impressive, time will tell if it's as sturdy as claimed !

[aaronjb]

I know that feeling, Aaron - I first experienced it when I climbed to the top of the Monument in London: made my 'dangle berries' tingle too!
For those poor people from "oop norf", the Monument is a tall tower built on the site of the Great Fire of London. It's bloody high and has a simple cage around the top platform, leaving you feeling VERY exposed and vulnerable. Also quite knackered after climbing the 311 steps of the spiral staircase to get to the top!

We visited the Notre Dame earlier this year and, having got into the wrong queue for entry, found ourselves climbing the 300-odd steps to the top .. a very similar experience by the sound of it - I was not a fan! Even though I know it's stood there for hundreds of years and is unlikely to spontaneously collapse, that's all I can think about when I'm up there!

[Varche]

Impressive bridge, but I'm sure the Boris bridge to NI will be longer and their due to start building it any week now.

Ha ha. Mrs V only this morning said solution to no hard border is to have wverything in and out of NI govia mainland i.e. normal borders. I said theywould have to build a bridge or two! Joking apart, there is a phenominalamount of lorries that cross each dayfrom Stranraer area.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Impressive bridge, but I'm sure the Boris bridge to NI will be longer and their due to start building it any week now.

Ha ha. Mrs V only this morning said solution to no hard border is to have wverything in and out of NI govia mainland i.e. normal borders. I said theywould have to build a bridge or two! Joking apart, there is a phenominalamount of lorries that cross each dayfrom Stranraer area.

The distance between Britain and Northern Ireland at it narrowest point in the Irish Sea isn't much more than the Straights of Dover so a tunnel should be very possible, if the geology is right and it's financially viable. 

They could charge all those ROI lorries to pay for it! 

[scimmy_man]

but the rh end will be in Scotland, wee jimmy crankie will claim it.

[Sir Tigger KC]

but the rh end will be in Scotland, wee jimmy crankie will claim it.

Good point! 

It'll have to be built from Cumbria then and use the Isle of Man as a midway point. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Tbh, the amount of trade that goes from Norn Irn to the south is so small that it isn't really worth bothering about. Its the EU,s problem rather than a British one.
Bringing it to the mainland and then sending it back across to the South would probably solve the issue with the taxpayer picking up a relatively small tab for doing so.
Ive always thought it to be a red herring. If they want to solve it they will do so at the very last minute. If they think they can use it to collapse the Brexit process, they will do that and blame May for it.
If we are building a bridge to Norn Ireland can we build it from Essex please ? 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Tbh, the amount of trade that goes from Norn Irn to the south is so small that it isn't really worth bothering about.

Wait!  Are you telling us that the Republic of Ireland is not one of the worlds great economies?!             

[Bigron]

A bridge from Essex sounds like a good plan, Albs. I was watching a road trip programme the other day and they were in NI; what lovely scenery!
I can't pronounce or even spell it, but there was this lake, said to be the largest freshwater lake in the country and it looked SO beautiful. I bet YOU know where it is?

Ron.

[STEMO]

Loch Neagh.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Presumably. There is an argument as to whether it or Lake Geneva is the largest lake in Europe. Every time one seems definite they have remeasure and change their minds. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Tbh, the amount of trade that goes from Norn Irn to the south is so small that it isn't really worth bothering about.

Wait!  Are you telling us that the Republic of Ireland is not one of the worlds great economies?!             

Depends which way up the list is...

For the record, they currently sit at 35... Which is better than Montserrat, but not as good as Spain

[Sir Tigger KC]

Presumably. There is an argument as to whether it or Lake Geneva is the largest lake in Europe. Every time one seems definite they have remeasure and change their minds. 

No. Lake Geneva cannot be the largest lake in Europe as approximately half of it is in Switzerland which is not a member of the European Union and thus not in Europe.   

[Doctor Gollum]

Ahem... Whilst not part of the European Union/European Economic Community/Blood Sucking Leach, it is very much part of europe, both physically and historically 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Ahem... Whilst not part of the European Union/European Economic Community/Blood Sucking Leach, it is very much part of europe, both physically and historically 

I know that and you know that, but having been constantly told for the last 2 years that we 'are leaving Europe', I have come to the conclusion that there are only 28 (soon to be 27) countries in Europe.   

The other 22 (soon to be 23) European countries that are not members of the European Union must belong somewhere else....   

I'll have to ask the next Remainer I see as apparently they are very clever people! 

[Doctor Gollum]

Ahem... Whilst not part of the European Union/European Economic Community/Blood Sucking Leach, it is very much part of europe, both physically and historically 

I know that and you know that, but having been constantly told for the last 2 years that we 'are leaving Europe', I have come to the conclusion that there are only 28 (soon to be 27) countries in Europe.   

The other 22 (soon to be 23) European countries that are not members of the European Union must belong somewhere else....   

I'll have to ask the next Remainer I see as apparently they are very clever people! 

I ask but two things when you do...

1. Keep a straight face when you ask.
2. Video their reaction.

 

[BazaJT]

It's one heck of a thing and very impressive However given that they close the Humber bridge to high sided vehicles at the first hint of a breeze what's that one going to be like during the typhoon season

[dave the builder]

It's one heck of a thing and very impressive However given that they close the Humber bridge to high sided vehicles at the first hint of a breeze what's that one going to be like during the typhoon season

wet and windy 

lets hope the built it better than the tat they make and sell us on ebay 

[TheBoy]

Tbh, the amount of trade that goes from Norn Irn to the south is so small that it isn't really worth bothering about. Its the EU,s problem rather than a British one.
Bringing it to the mainland and then sending it back across to the South would probably solve the issue with the taxpayer picking up a relatively small tab for doing so.
Ive always thought it to be a red herring. If they want to solve it they will do so at the very last minute. If they think they can use it to collapse the Brexit process, they will do that and blame May for it.
If we are building a bridge to Norn Ireland can we build it from Essex please ? 

Only 2 viable solutions. Northern Ireland becomes a separate state, not part of UK, or a rigid, expensive border needs setting up.  They managed it in Germany for 40 odd years....

[Bigron]

.....and here, TB, with Hadrian's Wall! 

Ron.

[STEMO]

I'd vote for the border. Then all we need to do is reinstate Hadrians Wall and Offas Dyke and we'll all be happy.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Tbh, the amount of trade that goes from Norn Irn to the south is so small that it isn't really worth bothering about. Its the EU,s problem rather than a British one.
Bringing it to the mainland and then sending it back across to the South would probably solve the issue with the taxpayer picking up a relatively small tab for doing so.
Ive always thought it to be a red herring. If they want to solve it they will do so at the very last minute. If they think they can use it to collapse the Brexit process, they will do that and blame May for it.
If we are building a bridge to Norn Ireland can we build it from Essex please ? 

Only 2 viable solutions. Northern Ireland becomes a separate state, not part of UK, or a rigid, expensive border needs setting up.  They managed it in Germany for 40 odd years....

Nah. There is already a border there for various purposes, but its invisible for political reasons. They just need to come up with a form of words which means the border also includes the extra things it needs to include, but this will be in theory only, the same as it is now.
It has always been as porous as a sponge and always will be, regardless of bits of paper produced in Brussels, Westminster, or anywhere else.
Its a red herring.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I'd vote for the border. Then all we need to do is reinstate Hadrians Wall and Offas Dyke and we'll all be happy.

Suits me fine, but apparently we must do what ex and would be terrorists want or they will dig up their guns and recommission them. 
Appeasement never works in the long term.
I actually think that the vieled threat of "the return of the troubles" in the Brexit negotiations is nothing short of sick. 

[aaronjb]

I actually think that the vieled threat of "the return of the troubles" in the Brexit negotiations is nothing short of sick. 

Don't worry, Corbyn will be in soon .. I believe they're quite fond of one another, so there should be no going back to things going tick tick boom.