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Whats the difference
« on: 04 August 2009, 19:47:46 »
Forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between pre face lift, mini face lift and full face lift.
I have a 2001 2.5 CDX is that mini or full face lift.
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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #1 on: 04 August 2009, 19:58:48 »
Yours is a face lift mate, check through the threds there is a couple of very similar questions and they are answered in detail.
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« Reply #2 on: 04 August 2009, 19:58:54 »
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Forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between pre face lift, mini face lift and full face lift.
I have a 2001 2.5 CDX is that mini or full face lift.

Yours is a facelift
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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #3 on: 04 August 2009, 20:07:27 »
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Yours is a face lift mate, check through the threds there is a couple of very similar questions and they are answered in detail.

I have been driving Omegas since 1986 and never had the guts to ask what the difference was. Thanks for your help but does it have a Vauxhall code or model no. ie L282 or the like
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« Reply #4 on: 04 August 2009, 20:09:29 »
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Forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between pre face lift, mini face lift and full face lift.
I have a 2001 2.5 CDX is that mini or full face lift.

Yours is a facelift

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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #5 on: 04 August 2009, 20:13:14 »
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I have been driving Omegas since 1986 and ....

That'll be a Carlton then!  ;) ;) ;) ;)
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« Reply #6 on: 04 August 2009, 20:17:47 »
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I have been driving Omegas since 1986 and ....

That'll be a Carlton then!  ;) ;) ;) ;)

Yes, your right and I had few of those aswell. Best second hand cars you can buy for such a small layout of dosh!
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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #7 on: 04 August 2009, 20:31:22 »
I seem to recall a post in FAQ section describing differences
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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #8 on: 04 August 2009, 20:33:25 »
1994 - 1998.5 = Pre mini facelift

1998.5 - 2000 = Mini Facelift (spec upgrades, audio, lights, interior)

2000 - 2003 = Full Facelift (major body changes, front grill integrated into bonnet, heavy interior changes, new engines)
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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #9 on: 04 August 2009, 20:44:48 »
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1994 - 1998.5 = Pre mini facelift

1998.5 - 2000 = Mini Facelift (spec upgrades, audio, lights, interior)

2000 - 2003 = Full Facelift (major body changes, front grill integrated into bonnet, heavy interior changes, new engines)

Mine is a 2001 2.5 when did they change to 2.6?
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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #10 on: 04 August 2009, 20:47:34 »
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1994 - 1998.5 = Pre mini facelift

1998.5 - 2000 = Mini Facelift (spec upgrades, audio, lights, interior)

2000 - 2003 = Full Facelift (major body changes, front grill integrated into bonnet, heavy interior changes, new engines)

Mine is a 2001 2.5 when did they change to 2.6?

2001! About march ish i think. If you have a Y plated 2.5 thats prob one of the very last ones.

Mines a 2000 on a X and i have the newer 2.2 rather than 2.0. For a time Omega's where being sold with both new and older engines.
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1994 - 1998.5 = Pre mini facelift

1998.5 - 2000 = Mini Facelift (spec upgrades, audio, lights, interior)

2000 - 2003 = Full Facelift (major body changes, front grill integrated into bonnet, heavy interior changes, new engines)

Mine is a 2001 2.5 when did they change to 2.6?

2001! About march ish i think. If you have a Y plated 2.5 thats prob one of the very last ones.

Mines a 2000 on a X and i have the newer 2.2 rather than 2.0. For a time Omega's where being sold with both new and older engines.

Mines a 2001 on an X pre march as I was avoiding the road tax upper limit.
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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #12 on: 04 August 2009, 21:21:44 »
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1994 - 1998.5 = Pre mini facelift

1998.5 - 2000 = Mini Facelift (spec upgrades, audio, lights, interior)

2000 - 2003 = Full Facelift (major body changes, front grill integrated into bonnet, heavy interior changes, new engines)

ERR  my 2.5 Elite is Nov 97 and I consider it to be a mini facelift. I may be spectactularly wrong but the dictionary definition of a mini facelift is "We are struggling to sell these cars in the run up to the launch of the Mark2 Omega (facelift to you) so lets give it some extra features and a real mishmash of parts(pre and post facelift) so the owners in years to come will really regret buying one as no one knows what part we fitted till you actually remove it!"

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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #13 on: 04 August 2009, 21:30:10 »
mini facelift is model years 1998 and 1999.  Yours is a mini facelift if the last letter of vin is W or X
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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #14 on: 04 August 2009, 21:39:53 »
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1994 - 1998.5 = Pre mini facelift

1998.5 - 2000 = Mini Facelift (spec upgrades, audio, lights, interior)

2000 - 2003 = Full Facelift (major body changes, front grill integrated into bonnet, heavy interior changes, new engines)

ERR  my 2.5 Elite is Nov 97 and I consider it to be a mini facelift. I may be spectactularly wrong but the dictionary definition of a mini facelift is "We are struggling to sell these cars in the run up to the launch of the Mark2 Omega (facelift to you) so lets give it some extra features and a real mishmash of parts(pre and post facelift) so the owners in years to come will really regret buying one as no one knows what part we fitted till you actually remove it!"

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Think that is a bit wide of the mark considering the years difference. Mini's had different rear badge. There was never a mish-mash of mini and full facelift parts, apart from the    old cdx wheel going on the later gls.
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Re: Whats the difference
« Reply #15 on: 05 August 2009, 10:08:24 »
Easy way to tell:

Pre mini facelift - Sqaure Headrests with big gap in the middle

Mini facelift - Solid head rests + leccy window buttons next to gear stick.

Facelift - Window buttons on the door
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« Reply #16 on: 05 August 2009, 13:45:09 »
Right  my VIN ends in a W

and it has solid headrests and it has electric window buttons next to gearstick.

So we now know Mini Facelift elites were made from NOVEMBER 1997 onwards.
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Right  my VIN ends in a W

and it has solid headrests and it has electric window buttons next to gearstick.

So we now know Mini Facelift elites were made from NOVEMBER 1997 onwards.

It maybe different for Spain, i have never seen a 97 plated Omega here being mini-facelift. Only from R plate onwards which is 1998
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« Reply #18 on: 05 August 2009, 16:01:04 »
Spain has nowt to do with it, It is a vauxhall UK RHD car and used to have an R plate and it was Nov 97. Didn't the letters (R) run from August to July in those heady days?

 Now it has the same plates as a three and a half year old Spanish car!
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Spain has nowt to do with it, It is a vauxhall UK RHD car and used to have an R plate and it was Nov 97. Didn't the letters (R) run from August to July in those heady days?

 Now it has the same plates as a three and a half year old Spanish car!

Ahh yes sorry its was Aug 97, so yours must have been one of the very first, as i do remember having a project car which was R reg but pre-mini facelift
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Right  my VIN ends in a W

and it has solid headrests and it has electric window buttons next to gearstick.

So we now know Mini Facelift elites were made from NOVEMBER 1997 onwards.
Model year tends to start from the new reg, so MY98 is likely to cover August 97 to August 98 (obviously, previous year models may be kicking around in the system for a while as well)
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« Reply #21 on: 06 August 2009, 10:13:32 »
I am sure I have seen a P reg mini facelift.

P reg GLS Aircon, alloys

Heater control markings & positions different to N reg CD

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« Reply #22 on: 06 August 2009, 14:19:10 »
will the facelift front and rear bumber fit on a prefaceift?
obviously it would mean changing the bonnet too right?

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will the facelift front and rear bumber fit on a prefaceift?
obviously it would mean changing the bonnet too right?

Doug

Can be fitted but a lot of work, can't really see the point.
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« Reply #24 on: 06 August 2009, 19:34:39 »
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will the facelift front and rear bumber fit on a prefaceift?
obviously it would mean changing the bonnet too right?



Can be fitted but a lot of work, can't really see the point.

why is there alot of work is it not a direct swap bonnet and bumper?
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« Reply #25 on: 06 August 2009, 22:58:49 »
Speak to Glasgow Jim.  I think thats what he did with his silver one, including facelift door bump strips in body colour.....   ;)
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