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will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« on: 25 August 2006, 18:29:52 »

as im in my new job and ive done the week in hand im thinking of getting myself a set of 18s or 19s along with some lowered springs for the mega. i was in chatting to a mate in halfords but i didnt want to tell him to order anything in as from previous experience with previous cars offset and wheel size/width/tyre profile and lowering amount all affect each other.

what i need to know is will 8 or 9 by 19 inch wheels fit with a 45mm drop (if not 45 what about 35). i dont see any issues with them fitting in the back but in the front i dont know if they will fit without touching the shocks, particularly where the springs sit in the front shocks. if they will fit what offset do i need bearing in mind i dont want them to hit the front or rear shocks and i also dont want them to sit out past the arches.

if its not possible then ill settle for 18s and ill also need to know what offset/width/profile, etc.. to go for. i would prefer 19's tho if possible. the set i have in mind are somewhere between 8 and 9 by 19.
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #1 on: 25 August 2006, 19:11:35 »

Not sure about the 19" could be borderline.......i know Kev has 18" on his but he is down south and offline just now..
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #2 on: 25 August 2006, 20:12:45 »

Omega Elites come with 17's as standard and its already a tight fit with them.. 18's would be fine. 19's are pushing it though, i'd stick with 18's!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #3 on: 25 August 2006, 21:29:07 »

Sod that! Go for the 19's!! 19's!!!!  ;D

Sorry, prob not much help.....Tbh i think 19's will be ok on an omega, the arch's are bloody enormous! I work in Halfords, they should be able to look in the 'rimstock' book and it will tell you what offset/width etc to go for with a 19" rim.....
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #4 on: 25 August 2006, 21:39:36 »

Its the clearance on the front strut that could be a problem....
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #5 on: 26 August 2006, 13:42:37 »

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Its the clearance on the front strut that could be a problem....

my thoughts exactly  :-/

i suppose 18's would do tho.. and save me about 2-300 quid.

these are the wheels im considering:


(quite possibly in gold)

fox rs6 but i cant find a pic as they are new. they look like these but with black inside the spokes


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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #6 on: 26 August 2006, 17:59:22 »

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Its the clearance on the front strut that could be a problem....

Only if they're wider. If you fit the correct tyre profile the overall wheel/tyre diameter will be the same. You probably need to go down to a 30 profile... wouldn't fancy the wheels surviving many potholes  :o
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #7 on: 26 August 2006, 18:28:48 »

Nice choice of wheels DmcL  ;)

I really like multispokes, i'm considering some 18" or 19" TSW pace for mine when she's alive again lol

Halfords have got 20% off those OZ wheels atm if you're interested.....
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #8 on: 26 August 2006, 19:39:44 »

was thinking the oz superturismo gt's in 19 inch but a mate at halfords loked them up and they are somewhere between 8 and 9 inches wide which seems like it might cause some bother clearing the front shocks. the tyre width listed for them is 235/19. id like 19's but if no one can tell me if they will go on and what offset ill need to clear the front shocks then ill have to go for 18's.
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #9 on: 26 August 2006, 19:48:08 »

yeah nice choice of wheels, but personally i woud avoid the gold for an omega....

I have known a few people ride their cars on 19"s - They all have said the same, they look great! But the ride quality became apualing & most dropped back to 18"s

The Omega has great suspension, but not sure how the ride would handle 19's.

But of course none of that matters, its the way it looks!  ;)
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #10 on: 27 August 2006, 15:54:54 »

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Not sure about the 19" could be borderline.......i know Kev has 18" on his but he is down south and offline just now..
Thanks Mark. I've found a PC to use.  ;)

My setup, I've got 18" irmscher SportStar on mine with the irmscher lowering kit and i'm pretty happy with how it looks.

Specs are...

18" SportStar Split set, wheels wider at the rear, but both have an ET30 offset.
Tyres on the rear are 265/35/18 Continental
Tyres on the front are 235/40/18 Continental

All sizes are irmscher recomended for the car, including tyre make/profiles etc.

It is quite tight around the strut area, and to be honest i think you'd be pushing it with 19"s, you'd be on ultra low profiles to compensate there i think, and then your ride quality goes right out the windae. You need to remember that, sometimes less is more.  ;)

The offset is the most important, ET30, that is the recomended/required offset. I've seen Omegas with different offsets, even ET38's and they just don't look right.

You can have a look at mine and see what you think for yourself here. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #11 on: 27 August 2006, 16:23:49 »

on of the first ones i looked at when i joined the site lol

looks great.. how much of a drop did the springs give? to me it looks a bit less than 45mm... possibly 25-35mm? do the front wheels sit flush with the arch? its hard to tell in that last pic.

actually not even considering the wheels in gold. was thinking they would look ok but that pic i posted has some lighting effects on it to make the gold look darker that it would be. dunno if i could get wider rears.. suppose i could always for some spacers in the back. i dont like the wheels out past the arch nor do i like them well in the arch.. yes i know picky picky lol
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #12 on: 28 August 2006, 18:15:56 »

these certainly are not 19's  :D

and probably the most impossible to clean too lol



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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #13 on: 28 August 2006, 21:45:14 »

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these certainly are not 19's  :D

and probably the most impossible to clean too lol



I've seen them wheels before, i think it was in BenHur.  ;D

Seriously though, surely that would be undrivable on our crappy roads. Imagine hitting a speed bump in that.
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #14 on: 28 August 2006, 21:48:42 »

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these certainly are not 19's  :D

and probably the most impossible to clean too lol



I don't like it [smiley=undecided.gif]
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #15 on: 28 August 2006, 22:05:16 »

I found a front view

I stilldon'tlike it [smiley=lolk.gif]
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #16 on: 28 August 2006, 22:16:30 »

Looked in the rimstock book in work today (Halfords) and It states that on an Omega, it suggests that on a 19x8.5 (or 9.0) you should have a 35 offset and a tyre profile of 245/35/19. However it does give a note with both the 19" fitments that body modification may be required!! So if you want hassle-free motoring, you may be safer going for the 18's (and you'll have a healthier wallet, especially come tyre time!!)....
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #17 on: 28 August 2006, 22:35:44 »

ok so if go for 19's with 235 width rubber (8-8.5 width rim i presume) i SHOULD be able to get them in ET30 and if needed then fit 2 or 5mm spacers as required and probably (hopefully) not have to do any work to the arches as ill only be looking to lower the car by 35-45mm.

loks like i may be going for the 19's afterall  :D

btw the ones on that omega are 21 or 22 inch.. silly big lol
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #18 on: 28 August 2006, 23:08:42 »

wow, thats a differnt looking megga. Think thats a Catera, looks very very American!

Tacky front grill and bumper, don't like that.... as for the 19's on there it's got hardly any rubber on the rim!  :o

If thats what you want mate, go for it. But i'd make sure you have an extra cusion on the seat  ;)
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #19 on: 28 August 2006, 23:32:36 »

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ok so if go for 19's with 235 width rubber (8-8.5 width rim i presume) i SHOULD be able to get them in ET30 and if needed then fit 2 or 5mm spacers as required and probably (hopefully) not have to do any work to the arches as ill only be looking to lower the car by 35-45mm.
Offsets work in a kind of 'backwards' way, if you fitted 5mm spacers to wheels with a 30 offset, you'd have an offset of 25! This would obviously push them closer to your outer arch....I'd go for a 35 offset and use spacers if they do touch the struts. If you can get a 8.0" wide set of 19's you should be fine imo....
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #20 on: 29 August 2006, 07:29:41 »

err woops.. ET35 and spacers if needed then lol

only dilemma is which wheels i want.. some are available in 19 some only go up to 18  :-/

the wires on that omega are 21 or 22 inch. shes not a catera either.
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #21 on: 29 August 2006, 12:14:05 »

Looking at the piccy, how on earth do these handle turns as to me they look like they would rub something silly  :)
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #22 on: 29 August 2006, 17:52:54 »

its probably on airbags or hydraulics.

ive decided what wheels i want to go for. will be getting them in 19 inch. my only dilemma is do i go for 235 or 215 width? theres only about 50 quids difference in price. in the rimstock book the widest/largest option was 245x19. im thinking 235 but id go for 215 if they wont rub the inner arch when turning sharp. have also decided on 40mm spax springs.

and no the wheels arent either of the ones i posted originally lol if you ask really really really nicely i might tell the brand but thats it till theyre on the car and i get the camera working on the pc again. the only down side to the wheels ive chosen is that the manufacturer hasnt any in stock but they do have some blanks so ill be waiting 4-5 weeks while the wheels are machined, painted and sent out.
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #23 on: 30 August 2006, 00:55:13 »

Can't wait.

Get them pics up as soon as you're done.  ;)
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #24 on: 30 August 2006, 08:57:31 »

get some pic's on the forum, let us see :)
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #25 on: 30 August 2006, 09:35:35 »

DMCL, what width are they? Because if they're 8.5" or 9.0" it probably wouldn't make any difference if you got 235 tyres because the tyre wall would most likely not petrude over the side of the alloy. This also depends on what make of tyre you get as well.

Also, pics please  :) Are they multispokes?
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Re: will 19's fit with 35-45mm drop
« Reply #26 on: 30 August 2006, 18:09:30 »

i mean the wheels width 215 or 235. whatever that is in inches.. the wheels are made by team dynamics and they are multispoke but not very boy racer-ish. they will look well on the car.  ;)
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