Topic: Omega Performance Figures (Read 7930 times)

Rock · « **on:** 01 October 2006, 20:08:37 »

Does anybody know what the Vauxhall official performance figures are for the various Omegas?

0-60, Top Speed, MPG etc.??

For the various models. In particular i'm interested in the 2.6 V6.

MikeDundee · « **Reply #1 on:** 01 October 2006, 20:39:31 »

8.5 seconds for the 2.6 V6 E.G., 0-60.

Markjay · « **Reply #2 on:** 01 October 2006, 21:04:44 »

2002 2.6 Opel Omega Saloon Automatic:

224km/h = 140mph
100k/h = 63mph

The actual performance will depend on spec, the Elite is heavier than the GLS so will be slower etc, I think that the Opel 'Selection' here is somewhere between CD and CDX but I am not sure.

Markjay · « **Reply #3 on:** 01 October 2006, 21:09:29 »

Or.... If you prefer the UK Sales Brochure for 2001 Vauxhall Omega models, it's 139mph top speed and 9.5sec 0-60mph (the 8.5sec is the figure for the manual version).

Markjay · « **Reply #4 on:** 01 October 2006, 21:12:40 »

mpg for the 2.6 Auto based on UK Sales Brochure:

Urban 17.2
Extra Urban 32.8
Combined 24.6

The figures in the Opel datasheet are in Litre/100km, which can be translated to mpg but it's as easy as translating Furlongs per Fortnight to mph....

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #5 on:** 01 October 2006, 21:44:42 »

It is not that slow I have a 2.6 and it is around 8.5 or so definately not as slow as 9.5 seconds.

PErhaps it is because mine was well run in!

Over a measured distance the 2.0 would do 75 the 2.6 85 and the 3.0 about 87

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #6 on:** 01 October 2006, 21:46:02 »

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mpg for the 2.6 Auto based on UK Sales Brochure:

Urban 17.2
Extra Urban 32.8
Combined 24.6

The figures in the Opel datasheet are in Litre/100km, which can be translated to mpg but it's as easy as translating Furlongs per Fortnight to mph....

I get around 16.5 on running about, should an engine be redlined through the gears?

The Barge Captain · « **Reply #7 on:** 02 October 2006, 15:39:42 »

Of course! although i bet you can't get it to do that in 5th!

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #8 on:** 02 October 2006, 16:21:54 »

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Of course! although i bet you can't get it to do that in 5th!

Only got 4 gears

MikeDundee · « **Reply #9 on:** 02 October 2006, 19:31:54 »

Yes the figures I gave are based on manual 8.5, my omega is manual, never actually timed it though, previous mega was an automatic 2.5 V6, THE SPORTS BUTTON IS WICKED. But you can't beat a manual.

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #10 on:** 02 October 2006, 21:44:25 »

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Yes the figures I gave are based on manual 8.5, my omega is manual, never actually timed it though, previous mega was an automatic 2.5 V6, THE SPORTS BUTTON IS WICKED. But you can't beat a manual.

I can't see that the official 9.5 0-60 for mine is correct. I can beat it by a second easily

TheBoy · « **Reply #11 on:** 02 October 2006, 21:56:26 »

I'd be surprised if you can get 8.5s 0 - 62mph from 2.6 auto...

Auto Addict · « **Reply #12 on:** 02 October 2006, 22:19:01 »

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I'd be surprised if you can get 8.5s 0 - 62mph from 2.6 auto...

My 2.2 can beat that, on a 1:3 downhill....

kjon51 · « **Reply #13 on:** 03 October 2006, 09:34:23 »

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THE SPORTS BUTTON IS WICKED. But you can't beat a manual.

Hi Mick,
So easy to beat a manual with auto - one slow or missed gear change & they're in the dust!

Does anyone know if the quoted 0-62 times are using the sports button or standard?

I'll have to try some times on mine, but I'll bet it's nowhere near as slow as 9.5! I have to agree with Martin on his post.

ATB
John

Markjay · « **Reply #14 on:** 03 October 2006, 17:14:55 »

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...Does anyone know if the quoted 0-62 times are using the sports button or standard?..

I don't think that matters, the 0-60 sprint is done with the right foot all the way down and I think that the autobox will change at the rev limiter anyway, the Sports mode will only affect driving if the pedal is not down to the nail. What would be interesting is to know is if they test 0-60 at the factory with the rev limiter off.... Also I read somewhere they they test this with the foot down and changing the autobox manually 1-2-3-D, though I don't know if this is actually true...

sounds2k · « **Reply #15 on:** 03 October 2006, 17:52:51 »

hmmm ... I thought that the auto box defaults to starting in 2nd gear with sport mode off, but 1st when it's on? It certainly seems to make a difference, even when you're pedal to the metal - yes it does twig that you're caning it ... but that thinking time adds vital seconds to the quick getaway

Markjay · « **Reply #16 on:** 03 October 2006, 18:05:58 »

I'm no expert (in spite of the title on the left-hand side...), I think that the Sports mode simply changes gears at higher engine revs, but if you nail down the pedal then the box seems to change anyway at the rev-limiter so I don't see how the Sports mode could make a difference under these circumstances...

Don't know about Sports mode starting in 2nd, does not seem sensible to me that it would do this, because you would have less acceleration when starting in 2nd than in 1st....

sounds2k · « **Reply #17 on:** 03 October 2006, 18:18:30 »

I don't know that it does start in 2nd for certain - but I do know that it feels significantly faster when starting off in sport mode than not. Perhaps the idea of starting in 2nd makes it more economical?

I guess the only way to be sure would be to do 2 runs at Santa Pod - one with sport mode on, one without - there's a task for ya

TheBoy · « **Reply #18 on:** 03 October 2006, 18:47:44 »

My MV6 is equally quick from standing start in Normal mode or Sports mode. Its a 1998 model.

Sports tends to hold gears longer when not in full kickdown, and also change down earlier. From a slow running start, Sports is much quicker as it has already picked a lower gear that in normal...

kjon51 · « **Reply #19 on:** 03 October 2006, 19:12:31 »

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...Does anyone know if the quoted 0-62 times are using the sports button or standard?..

I don't think that matters, the 0-60 sprint is done with the right foot all the way down and I think that the autobox will change at the rev limiter anyway, the Sports mode will only affect driving if the pedal is not down to the nail.

What are you talking about? The sport mode makes the change up at higher revs, or put another way - hang on to the lower gear longer - in this example '0 - 60/62 sprint' we're only talking one change; 1st to 2nd so IMHO it makes a hell of a difference!

ATB
John

Markjay · « **Reply #20 on:** 03 October 2006, 21:13:38 »

Donnow... when I put my foot down from standstill, the gear seems to go up to the rev limiter and only then change, regardless on whether I'm in Sports mode or not... So I don't really see how Sports mode can make a difference when the pedal is in kickdown anyway. Maybe someone knows how this actually works...

Markjay · « **Reply #21 on:** 03 October 2006, 21:15:58 »

Kjon51, don't let me pull rank on you, I'm only an Omega Expert because I posted a lot, nothing to do with what I actually know about the beast...

TheBoy · « **Reply #22 on:** 03 October 2006, 21:32:34 »

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Donnow... when I put my foot down from standstill, the gear seems to go up to the rev limiter and only then change, regardless on whether I'm in Sports mode or not... So I don't really see how Sports mode can make a difference when the pedal is in kickdown anyway. Maybe someone knows how this actually works...

Correct operation! Sports will be no quicker in a 0-62 dash. It will be quicker around the lanes etc due to keeping engine at higher revs...

CaptainZok · « **Reply #23 on:** 03 October 2006, 21:52:52 »

Can you alter the change points with a Tech2?

TheBoy · « **Reply #24 on:** 03 October 2006, 22:07:49 »

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Can you alter the change points with a Tech2?

Can't really do jack shit with it at present

To modify the change points would be a new firmware for it, and they ain't flashable.... ... so no...

Markjay · « **Reply #25 on:** 03 October 2006, 22:10:53 »

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Can you alter the change points with a Tech2?
Can't really do jack shit with it at present

To modify the change points would be a new firmware for it, and they ain't flashable.... ... so no...

Not flashable on the 2.5/3.0, but on the 2.6/3.2...

CaptainZok · « **Reply #26 on:** 03 October 2006, 22:11:39 »

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Can you alter the change points with a Tech2?
Can't really do jack shit with it at present

To modify the change points would be a new firmware for it, and they ain't flashable.... ... so no...

Yeah just readin your other posts, what a bugger.

TheBoy · « **Reply #27 on:** 03 October 2006, 22:12:55 »

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Not flashable on the 2.5/3.0, but on the 2.6/3.2...

Inc gearbox?

sounds2k · « **Reply #28 on:** 03 October 2006, 22:23:23 »

I was told recently that plod models were different (perhaps only when they were in service?) - sounded like they defaulted to having sport mode on instead of off ... ??

TheBoy · « **Reply #29 on:** 03 October 2006, 22:25:46 »

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I was told recently that plod models were different (perhaps only when they were in service?) - sounded like they defaulted to having sport mode on instead of off ... ??

majority of plods are manual for obvious reasons...

Markjay · « **Reply #30 on:** 03 October 2006, 22:44:00 »

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Not flashable on the 2.5/3.0, but on the 2.6/3.2...

Inc gearbox?

You asking me?

It was you who told me in the first place that the 2.6/3.2 were flashable... I guess you meant the engine.

If I get round to your neck of the woods one day I might ask you to flash update all the ECU's from TIS, but perhaps we should also prepare a low-loader as backup in case it all goes horribly wrong...?

Gwilym · « **Reply #31 on:** 03 October 2006, 23:27:53 »

So what 0 - 60 should I be getting from my 3.0 Auto MV6 then? I know it is quick but it doesn't seem to be any quicker than the 2.5V6 manual.

Paul M · « **Reply #32 on:** 03 October 2006, 23:56:44 »

Gearing is too high on the manual box with 5 ratios, so I can only imagine the slushy with its stupidly high gearing really struggles to get off the line. And that's not considering the power loss through the torque converter, and slower shifting speed etc.

Even the manual 3.0 MV6 ain't particularly quick off the line, it's too heavy and the gearing is too high for the peaky 24V engine. At higher speeds yeah it'll keep up with most things due to good aerodynamics, less influence of weight, and easier to keep the revs in the power band (i.e over 4500 RPM).

I've managed an indicated 0-60ish in my manual MV6 in the low-mid 7 seconds, but that's caning it in a way the quoted figures don't (i.e. dropping the clutch with some significant revs going), so is to be expected. But there are a lot of cars out there that'll match those times, and I can't see an auto getting close seeing that you can't get the revs up until the car hits about 30 MPH.

They ain't sports cars unfortunately 8-)

sounds2k · « **Reply #33 on:** 04 October 2006, 00:19:32 »

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So what 0 - 60 should I be getting from my 3.0 Auto MV6 then? I know it is quick but it doesn't seem to be any quicker than the 2.5V6 manual.

I reckon about 8.5s or so ... and for the reasons Paul gives, I'd expect a very similar 0-60 for a 3.0 auto compared to a 2.5 manual as you've observed.

Barges are cruisers rather than bruisers - the Harley Davidsons of the car world ... surely there aren't many sports cars that can be had for the same price as miggy's that you'd want to drive long distances in - I guess it all boils down to what you want from a car ... or bike ...

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #34 on:** 04 October 2006, 11:15:20 »

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I'd be surprised if you can get 8.5s 0 - 62mph from 2.6 auto...

Lower geared than 3.0 - quicker up to 30

Stall speed launch sports mode and foot all the way to floor.

power differences are not that great

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #35 on:** 04 October 2006, 11:28:28 »

I managed around 8 seconds while I had the MV6 and the 2.6 is around 1/2 second slower.

It is only over 80mph you notice the less power

TheBoy · « **Reply #36 on:** 04 October 2006, 19:29:31 »

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Not flashable on the 2.5/3.0, but on the 2.6/3.2...

Inc gearbox?

You asking me?

It was you who told me in the first place that the 2.6/3.2 were flashable... I guess you meant the engine.

If I get round to your neck of the woods one day I might ask you to flash update all the ECU's from TIS, but perhaps we should also prepare a low-loader as backup in case it all goes horribly wrong...?

2.6/3.2 engine flashable, afaik, g/b ecu not...

Omega-MV6 · « **Reply #37 on:** 09 October 2006, 14:51:35 »

Well the Sport mode (or Pursuit mode as I call it - Fans of Knight Rider will know what I mean) button is great fun...

No matter how much I welly my 3.0 it always changes at 3000RPM with Sport mode off.
With Sport mode on it screams to 7500ish RPM,
So in my car having the Sport mode on, will effect the 0-60 time.

I swear it is quicker to 62 than 8.5... I'm going to check tonight.....

Cheers.

Matt

Markjay · « **Reply #38 on:** 09 October 2006, 17:41:15 »

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Well the Sport mode (or Pursuit mode as I call it - Fans of Knight Rider will know what I mean) button is great fun...

No matter how much I welly my 3.0 it always changes at 3000RPM with Sport mode off.
With Sport mode on it screams to 7500ish RPM,
So in my car having the Sport mode on, will effect the 0-60 time.

I swear it is quicker to 62 than 8.5... I'm going to check tonight.....

Cheers.

Matt

Let us know...

David Hasselhoff

TheBoy · « **Reply #39 on:** 09 October 2006, 18:43:26 »

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No matter how much I welly my 3.0 it always changes at 3000RPM with Sport mode off.
With Sport mode on it screams to 7500ish RPM,

Check the kickdown switch, as thats not working right.
For yours to rev that high, is it ex-plod?

MikeDundee · « **Reply #40 on:** 09 October 2006, 21:04:49 »

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THE SPORTS BUTTON IS WICKED. But you can't beat a manual.

Hi Mick,
So easy to beat a manual with auto - one slow or missed gear change & they're in the dust!

Does anyone know if the quoted 0-62 times are using the sports button or standard?

I'll have to try some times on mine, but I'll bet it's nowhere near as slow as 9.5! I have to agree with Martin on his post.

ATB

John

That would need to be pust to the test mee thinks, as if you don't miss a gear change, where would the automatic be :-/

MikeDundee · « **Reply #41 on:** 09 October 2006, 21:11:39 »

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I managed around 8 seconds while I had the MV6 and the 2.6 is around 1/2 second slower.

It is only over 80mph you notice the less power

never had a problems with less power over 80mph, it still shifts pretty quick over 80

Del Boy · « **Reply #42 on:** 09 October 2006, 21:16:18 »

Any idea on what mine would be a facelift 3.0MV6 manual and it's chipped

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #43 on:** 09 October 2006, 21:37:14 »

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I managed around 8 seconds while I had the MV6 and the 2.6 is around 1/2 second slower.

It is only over 80mph you notice the less power

never had a problems with less power over 80mph, it still shifts pretty quick over 80

My last car was a pre face lift MV6 which got written off

Gwilym · « **Reply #44 on:** 09 October 2006, 22:45:14 »

I read this thread again today and decided to test it myself.

I jumped in the Omega and drove down the road towards the dual carriageway

Then I remembered I had a coolant leak and thought this probably was not a good idea so have postponed the live test until next week when I have sorted the leak.

TheBoy · « **Reply #45 on:** 10 October 2006, 08:44:27 »

I'm sure someone will officially try their's down the strip this weekend

- alas, not me, as I will be in a 1.8 Rover diesel as we are borrowing a caravan, and I (rightly) have no towbar on MV6.

Omega-MV6 · « **Reply #46 on:** 10 October 2006, 11:13:28 »

Hello.

Yes, it's Ex-Plod, goes all the way to the red line.. 8-)

Over 5 runs.... ahem;

Run 1 = 8.0
Run 2 = 7.8
Run 3 = 8.2
Run 4 = 7.9
Run 5 = 7.6

The above times were with a passenger timing, and me shouting "STOP", when it got to 62
So I tried it without the Passenger and using the Stop watch thats built in.
I only got 4 runs in, as the old bill got wind of what was was going on, so I ran for it.

But here we go.. ahem;

Run 1 = 7.9
Run 2 = 7.9
Run 3 = 7.8
Run 4 = 7.9

Cheers.

Matt

TheBoy · « **Reply #47 on:** 10 October 2006, 11:48:21 »

So about 8s - which is about stated figure for manual, but as yours revs higher than standard, that may help a tad...

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #48 on:** 10 October 2006, 12:25:42 »

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I'm sure someone will officially try their's down the strip this weekend - alas, not me, as I will be in a 1.8 Rover diesel as we are borrowing a caravan, and I (rightly) have no towbar on MV6.

What is this worry about tow bars, Omegas make fantastic tow bars and having to borrow a small wrong wheel drive crap tow car is silly, now stop being silly and get a tow bar fitted so you can see why we rave about these cars!

TheBoy · « **Reply #49 on:** 10 October 2006, 13:39:14 »

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I'm sure someone will officially try their's down the strip this weekend - alas, not me, as I will be in a 1.8 Rover diesel as we are borrowing a caravan, and I (rightly) have no towbar on MV6.

What is this worry about tow bars, Omegas make fantastic tow bars and having to borrow a small wrong wheel drive crap tow car is silly, now stop being silly and get a tow bar fitted so you can see why we rave about these cars!

More chance of me getting lpg on it

I have nothing to tow normally. When I do need to tow, I borrow a car. If Vx had wanted the MV6 to have a towbar, they would have fitted it at the factory

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #50 on:** 10 October 2006, 17:05:58 »

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I'm sure someone will officially try their's down the strip this weekend - alas, not me, as I will be in a 1.8 Rover diesel as we are borrowing a caravan, and I (rightly) have no towbar on MV6.

What is this worry about tow bars, Omegas make fantastic tow bars and having to borrow a small wrong wheel drive crap tow car is silly, now stop being silly and get a tow bar fitted so you can see why we rave about these cars!
More chance of me getting lpg on it

I have nothing to tow normally. When I do need to tow, I borrow a car. If Vx had wanted the MV6 to have a towbar, they would have fitted it at the factory

So why is there trailer wiring in the boot and all the holes are pimpled?

They also do dealer fitted ones as well!!!!

Auto Addict · « **Reply #51 on:** 10 October 2006, 17:28:18 »

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So about 8s - which is about stated figure for manual, but as yours revs higher than standard, that may help a tad...

Fit a rubber crankshaft....you don't have to rev so high......

Paul M · « **Reply #52 on:** 10 October 2006, 21:48:16 »

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So about 8s - which is about stated figure for manual, but as yours revs higher than standard, that may help a tad...

The quoted figure for the manual is quite easy to beat, as are most factory 0-60 figures for manual cars in my experience. It just depends how hard you want to be on the car. If you're happy to dump the clutch at 5000 RPM (with TCS off), can control the wheelspin by modulating the throttle, and do the 1st-2nd shift on the rev limiter, I reckon 7 seconds isn't that difficult. Problem being that if you do it too often there's a fair chance things will break, and you'll get through a shed load of tyres!

Hence the 8s for a manual 3.0 is foot to the floor and shifting near the red line, but not a highly aggressive launch - gentle enough that it can be done without breaking things.

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