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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #45 on: 02 October 2006, 21:25:28 »

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Sounds like relay to me, i had a problem last year, where was just cutting out when stopped at junctions, called AA, FOUND NOTHIN, was on hols at the time just done 2k touring scotland, climbing, drinking etc.,, Luckily was in Dundee at the time it happened and not in the sticks of scotland, next to hotel was VX garage, got them tow it back to hotel. Called VX dealer in london on the Monday morning, said it was fuel relay, stuck it into VX dundee, was the fule relay, cost £150 fitted, parts etc.. Still had to drive back to london, so could'nt risk it cutting on the way back.  

Dude, relays are £24 and will take about 5 mins to change, are you sure it was not a sensor?

theboy, thanks mate... hopefully will post a happy story tomorrow!  :P
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #46 on: 02 October 2006, 21:29:03 »

Out of interest.... Do crank sensors fail often? My mego has done 122k and I have no receipts for it ever having a crank sensor change....
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #47 on: 02 October 2006, 21:29:57 »

not uncommon...
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #48 on: 02 October 2006, 22:07:35 »

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not uncommon...

What that they fail often or that 120k is the norm  :o
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #49 on: 02 October 2006, 22:39:51 »

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not uncommon...

What that they fail often or that 120k is the norm  :o
That they fail often, or at least, the cable does.  ;)
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #50 on: 02 October 2006, 22:42:03 »

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Sounds like relay to me, i had a problem last year, where was just cutting out when stopped at junctions, called AA, FOUND NOTHIN....
I'm surprised he didn't tell you to change the CamSensor.  ;D
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #51 on: 02 October 2006, 22:46:48 »

Hey Kev, cheers for that....

Is it the cable or the cable location, gonna take theboys advice and re-route it!

Good job that Autovaux had the parts, Vx dealers wanted £74 ex VAT, cheeky bugga's!
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #52 on: 02 October 2006, 22:55:13 »

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Hey Kev, cheers for that....

Is it the cable or the cable location, gonna take theboys advice and re-route it!

Good job that Autovaux had the parts, Vx dealers wanted £74 ex VAT, cheeky bugga's!
It's the cable location and where the cable is routed, at the rear of the engine.

Sound advice from Jamie. I re-routed mine when i changed it, there is enough cable on the new sensor to do so. Just make sure you use plenty of cable ties so you're well away from the exhaust manifold and downpipe. You'll be surprised how easy it is. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #53 on: 02 October 2006, 23:03:38 »

£74 + VAT!!

Bl**dy £35 + vat on TC!

Changing the sensor is easy.

It can be done woth both the scuttle and plenum in place (not easy, but much quicker).
The sensor sits next to the oil filter. I can't remember the exact size of the torx bolt.

You will need a screwdriver to prise the sensor out though, they get a bit stuck in there.

The plug is up at the centre back of the plenum behind the multiram (quite well set back).

It is a bit fiddly but quite easy to find. There are only 3 plugs there and one is way too big to be mistaken.
Reach in, unplug the connector (it is a 2 pin job as I recall, but use new one as reference) and plug new one in.

Reroute to passenger side of engine and cable tie against brake pipes.

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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #54 on: 02 October 2006, 23:25:30 »

Hey laid,

Yep, then told me i dont need the seal as they have never sold them.... erm, OK!

Thanks for the guide, really helps! Will post up 2mo with a happy story  :)
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #55 on: 02 October 2006, 23:38:34 »

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Hey laid,

Yep, then told me i dont need the seal as they have never sold them.... erm, OK!

Thanks for the guide, really helps! Will post up 2mo with a happy story  :)
Fingers crossed for you matey.  ;)
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #56 on: 03 October 2006, 07:19:26 »

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It's the cable location and where the cable is routed, at the rear of the engine.

Sound advice from Jamie. I re-routed mine when i changed it, there is enough cable on the new sensor to do so. Just make sure you use plenty of cable ties so you're well away from the exhaust manifold and downpipe. You'll be surprised how easy it is. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
It sounds like I should reroute mine while it still works and the engine is in bits. Is it hard to get the original cable out without cutting the cable?
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #57 on: 03 October 2006, 08:26:44 »

Plan of attack for today

  • Remove Plenum
  • Find multiplug that connects to Crank Sensor
  • Remove plug and connect new sensor
  • Route new sensor cables down via brake lines and cable tie
  • Under car, undo torx bolt remove sensor
  • Cut wire and remove
  • On top of car, remove cut wire and bin
  • Under car, remove evidence of old seal and fit new sensor with new seal
  • Tighten torx to 8nm
  • Refit plenum

Fingers crossed, turn key and take for a burn....  ;D
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #58 on: 03 October 2006, 08:42:42 »

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Plan of attack for today

  • Remove Plenum
  • Find multiplug that connects to Crank Sensor
  • Remove plug and connect new sensor
  • Route new sensor cables down via brake lines and cable tie
  • Under car, undo torx bolt remove sensor
  • Cut wire and remove
  • On top of car, remove cut wire and bin
  • Under car, remove evidence of old seal and fit new sensor with new seal
  • Tighten torx to 8nm
  • Refit plenum

Fingers crossed, turn key and take for a burn....  ;D

Good Luck Sophos certainly sounds like a good plan of action more involved than the 2.0 to say the least  :)
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Re: Can't Start Car - Please Help
« Reply #59 on: 03 October 2006, 08:46:34 »

Its a three pin connector by the way and its key that you get one with the right shape connector (there is a square and rounder one)
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