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[sparkybun]

hi,

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.asp?modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=VAUXHALL&model=OMEGA&variant=&keywords=diesel&min_pr=2000&max_pr=&mileage=&agerange=&postcode=rm1+1ss&miles=10&max_records=50&source=0&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH

What do you think all?  Anything to look out for?

Thanks

Mel

[Marks DTM Calib]

About right money wise, usual Omega buying guide applies.......

[sparkybun]

Mark,

Could you please re-iterate what the 'Omega usual buying guide' is as i'm pretty crap at buying cars and knowing what to look for.  I know about drop links etc but wouldn't know where they are or if they are good or not.  Same goes for track rod ends etc.....

Any help appreciated!

Thanks

Mel

[Del Boy]

Looks v/nice but be carfull with the alloys these have been known to go through tyres like mad check out the tread good luck with it   liam

[Marks DTM Calib]

Basicaly check it drives in a straight line, listen for knocks at the front etc when going over bumps, check inside edge of tyres for wear, look for service history as they should have oil change every 5K miles.

HPI check it and check panels are straight etc, look under boot carpet to check for ripples.

Make sure all the gadgets work......aircon nice and cold etc.

The alloys on these have no problems, its the pre-facelift 17 inch MV6 ones that are a bit weak.

[sparkybun]

cheers

[Del Boy]

Sorry mark your right i had a set of old shape aloys on my Nreg omega tyres were mental was told by someone that these was the same but i don't know if this is true? but sparkybun the car u are looking at is v/nice  

[TheBoy]

its the pre-facelift 17 inch MV6 ones that are a bit weak.

Understatement of the year. And at £236.01 each, not cheap either  

[tunnie]

its the pre-facelift 17 inch MV6 ones that are a bit weak.

Understatement of the year. And at £236.01 each, not cheap either  

!!!! ouch!!

passing a garage today, saw a W Reg Pre-facelift MV6 with LPG conversion going for 3k, it was mint!! brand new tyres all round with excellent tread, new exhaust, oil recently changed, had been really well look after.

I was soooo tempted due to the gas conversion...

but £230 a tyre ouch!!! surely there are cheaper ones out there?

@ Sparkybun.... check the climate is ICE cold and not just cool.... it should make your skin feel 'dry'... put it on "LO" and that will force the system to pump out ice cold air...

To add to MarkDTM's list check the cambelt on the history... remember with V6's the waterpump should have been changed along with the belt, tensiors and pulleys.

Cambelts should be done every 4 years or 40k miles....

Engine bay looks ok.... press every button make sure it does something!! - Make sure all bulbs work xeons are verrry expensive if blown.

Other than that, good luck facelift 2.5 TD is uncommon.......(i hate using the word 'rare' with the omega)

[TheBoy]

!!!! ouch!!


but £230 a tyre ouch!!! surely there are cheaper ones out there?

no, thats for a wheel. prefacelift mv6 ones deform very easy. next time you pop around, I'll show you the buckled one in my garage - it looks ok, but is buckled...

[tunnie]

think i remember you mentioning it... shame they are good looking alloys.

I might pop around in project A before the weekend....

[TheBoy]

do, i'd love to see it...

[tunnie]

its still bit tatty... cleaned the outside and sorted a few bits out, came up a treat.

Still need to check the battery with volt meter to determin wether its the battery or alternator.

I have to use a jump box everytime i go anyware in it....

[Admin]

its the pre-facelift 17 inch MV6 ones that are a bit weak.

Understatement of the year. And at £236.01 each, not cheap either  

!!!! ouch!!

passing a garage today, saw a W Reg Pre-facelift MV6 with LPG conversion going for 3k, it was mint!! brand new tyres all round with excellent tread, new exhaust, oil recently changed, had been really well look after.

I was soooo tempted due to the gas conversion...

but £230 a tyre ouch!!! surely there are cheaper ones out there?

@ Sparkybun.... check the climate is ICE cold and not just cool.... it should make your skin feel 'dry'... put it on "LO" and that will force the system to pump out ice cold air...

To add to MarkDTM's list check the cambelt on the history... remember with V6's the waterpump should have been changed along with the belt, tensiors and pulleys.

Cambelts should be done every 4 years or 40k miles....

Engine bay looks ok.... press every button make sure it does something!! - Make sure all bulbs work xeons are verrry expensive if blown.

Other than that, good luck facelift 2.5 TD is uncommon.......(i hate using the word 'rare' with the omega)

2.5TD is a BMW engined lump with chain driven cams, so no worries on the belt.

For a W reg, that is very cheap... especially in London, so be VERY thorough and do an HPI check!
Check the chasis number on th V5 matches the car.
Being the diesel, it will put a lot of wear on the front tyres and brakes, so look carefully at them.

Check the brand of tyres. Look for same (known) brand all round as a good sign. different tyres on each wheel is a bad sign.

As others have said, check ALL the toys,

Make sure the engine is cold when you go to look at it. Many a problem is hidden with a warm engine.

When driving it should have a decent amount of pull, and you should feel the turbo kick in around 2.5k rpm.

Finally, go with your instincts on the seller. Someone who is too friendly, usually is for a reason....

[Andy B]

........ remember with V6's the waterpump should have been changed along with the belt, tensiors and pulleys.
......

Why's that?

Andy B

[Admin]

........ remember with V6's the waterpump should have been changed along with the belt, tensiors and pulleys.
......

Why's that?

Andy B

Not so critical on the V6.
On the 4 pot the water pump is driven by the cambelt so it is critical to change the pump with the belt. A water pump failure there will cause severe damage!

On the V6 the water pump is driven off the aux belt.
It is, however, wise to change the water pump at least every other cambelt change.
You strip down to it to do the cambelt so it is simply 5 mins extra work (and £25)  for the total piece of mind.

[sparkybun]

        S O L D !!!!!!!!! TOO LATE !!

[tunnie]

........ remember with V6's the waterpump should have been changed along with the belt, tensiors and pulleys.
......

Why's that?

Andy B

Because if the water pump fails....so does the cambelt! (i think?) - Its not expensive and worth doing with a belt change.

I cannot remember the exact technical reason why you replace it, but someone who knows more will be along in a min....

** edit. oh they have! lol

I must change mine with my next belt change...

[Marks DTM Calib]

........ remember with V6's the waterpump should have been changed along with the belt, tensiors and pulleys.
......

Why's that?

Andy B

Because if the water pump fails....so does the cambelt! (i think?) - Its not expensive and worth doing with a belt change.

I cannot remember the exact technical reason why you replace it, but someone who knows more will be along in a min....

Not the case on the V6, it would need to be a catastrophic failue to take the cambelt out as its driven by the aux belt.

The water should be changed every time on the 4 pots as its cambelt driven....

[TheBoy]

v6 water pump is NOT driven by cambelt. 4 pot one is.

For sake of £20 + VAT on v6, when doing the cambelt, do water pump seeing as its stripped down that far. On 4 pot, change water pump coz it is driven by cambelt.

[TheBoy]

damn, Marks beaten me to it again!

[tunnie]

ooops! my mistake got it the wrong way round! sorry!  

[Admin]

damn, Marks beaten me to it again!

Actually I beat the pair of you to it... but no-one noticed!  :-/

 

[TheBoy]

I'd noticed, i was replying to tunnie's (now edited) mistake...  

[Andy B]

........ remember with V6's the waterpump should have been changed along with the belt, tensiors and pulleys.
......

Why's that?

Andy B

Because if the water pump fails....so does the cambelt! (i think?) - Its not expensive and worth doing with a belt change.

I cannot remember the exact technical reason why you replace it, but someone who knows more will be along in a min....

** edit. oh they have! lol

I must change mine with my next belt change...

I had a feeling that's what the answer was going to be!  
But I already knew my water pump was 'fan belt' driven and not cam belt driven.

[Taxi_Driver]

........ remember with V6's the waterpump should have been changed along with the belt, tensiors and pulleys.
......

Why's that?

Andy B

Not so critical on the V6.
On the 4 pot the water pump is driven by the cambelt so it is critical to change the pump with the belt. A water pump failure there will cause severe damage!

On the V6 the water pump is driven off the aux belt.
It is, however, wise to change the water pump at least every other cambelt change.
You strip down to it to do the cambelt so it is simply 5 mins extra work (and £25)  for the total piece of mind.

Just to add to Dave's warning on 4 pots.....my 4 pot had its cambelt done at 42k when i bought it (vx dealer i bought it off didnt do it, but then paid me for having it done at another vx dealer) About 10k miles later i had a 'cracking' noise coming from engine compartment, turned out to be water pump bearing going.....so needed new water pump and a new cambelt again.....make sure tensioner is changed as well.....not sure if mine was changed at cambelt change..but i had to have the tensioner changed shortly afterwards.....which meant another new cambelt. Supplying dealer paid for the orig cambelt change and all the rest of the changes were done under warranty....woulda cost me mega bucks at vx prices to have it all sorted if not.