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[Boiler Man]

Hi Guys

Can anyone advise me. On the later facelift models the sales lit says that the omega has factory fitted telephone pre-wiring, the car I have in mind has a CCR 2006 and is an 03.

How do you go about fitting a current modile phone into this? Will it work with the cars display and can you use a cradle plug in type holder? I dont want to use blue tooth as I am in and out of the car all day. Not only does it drive me mad disconnecting and reconnecting bluetoth, but it also drains the phone battery with bluetooth on all the time.

Thanks, any help would be realy appreciated, I'm a bit of a numpty when it comes to car wiring and interfacing.

[HI2DVY]

Hi Boilerman,

On some facelifts the CCR2006 is prewired for mobiles. The connector is usually taped to the top of the glovebox. This can usually be reached by removing the kick plate located just below and behind the glove box and then reaching up behind the box. I ended up taking the glovebox out (need to remove passenger airbag and side vents first) only to find there was no adaptor.

I wired my Nokia carkit directly to the CCR2006 by connecting straight into the plug connector at the back of the radio. This is pretty straightforward but needs the radio removed and the radio cage taken out to get reasonable access to the connector and wiring. The power connections are fairly obvoius but the mute and audio connections are on pins 24 (mute) and 25/26 audio in.
These pins are also used by the trafficmaster system but, as I dont use it, I disconnect the mute lead from the traffic master.

Using the mute wire and audio input allows the radio or cd to be muted and the call to be played through your stereo speakers. You can also preset the volume of the call. This will happen whether you are using the stereo or not when a call comes in.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Dave

[Boiler Man]

Cheers Dave

I currently have a samsung d600, do you know if there is a car kit that will take this phone? or I am due for an upgrade, would I be better changing manufacturer?

Surpose I'm looking for the imposible, but I really dont want to continue with blue tooth as said previously, it drains the phone battery and for every leaving and returning to the car all day.

Does anyone know what the Hal***ds kit is like?

Thanks Again Gary

[HI2DVY]

Hi Gary,

Not sure about the Samsung kit but check it out with the guys at sio communications - http://www.siocommunications.co.uk
I see them getting referenced on this site quite a bit and they can usually help. They also have a pretty good users forum where you can ask your questions. The forum is at http://www.siocommunications.co.uk/Forum/index.php.
 
Dave

[SMS01]

I know you don't like bluetooth re connecting etc, but if it is set up correctly then it should just connect when you are in the car and the ignition is on. So long as your phone is connected and locked down to the car kit bluetooth receiver only and is invisible to other users, then you should not have to connect and disconnect all day and the security of your phone, contacts etc should be ok.

Every time I jump in my car and the ignition is on then the phone is wired through the stereo via bluetooth, I don't do anything other than to sit in the car, I can use the phone interface on the dashboard to make or receive calls and incoming calls appear on the screen. The Phone is still in my pocket during this process. Mine is not an official vx product but a 3rd party unit which works fine for myself.

Battery life - thats just down to the phone itself. Might be worth considering a new battery?

[Boiler Man]

Thanks Again Dave, I will check out that site. really appreciated.

Thanks also SMS01 for your input, interesting your explanation about the bluetooth. The only experience I have had with bluetooth is with my head set. I have to switch it on and off leaving the car as it still picks up my phone from about 20 30 meters, and I end up answering my phone while the head set is in the car. Nobody there of course.

But I get what you mean, so if you turn of your engine and remove the key the bluetooth disconnects automatically? and reconnects when you turn on the ignition? If thats the case I could live with the battery life. Its the fiddling with the head set that drive me mad.

Thanks Again, could you confirm that thats the case please. Told you I was a numpty

and ps what type is your kit?

Gary

[SMS01]

Gary, to confirm,

Ignition off, phone disconnects from car receiver. Only problem I have found is when messing about around the car and the phone rings - if ignition is on, you have to get into the cabin to answer it and talk.

Kit I have is a Parrot CK3100. Plugs into the back of the stereo with minor mods to the wiring loom plug (splitting the plug into two separate plugs) - have fitted to mine - pre facelift 96, also to a 51 plate. 51plate a bit tighter but still do-able.

Give me a shout and I can show you the thing working. PM sent..

Steve

[TheBoy]

Actual bluetooth operation depends on car kit.

With my Nokia kit, if using BT (as opposed to cradle), it will disconnect bluetooth about 30s after switching off ignition. It will reconnect as soon as ignition on.


For all bluetooth users, remember the phone still has to be in a cradle - that applies to BT kits, and BT handsets.  The law implies all handheld electronically operated equipment must be fixed.  The fact that its 'handsfree' is not enough.  A collegue fell foul of that one...

[nixoro]

For all bluetooth users, remember the phone still has to be in a cradle - that applies to BT kits, and BT handsets.  The law implies all handheld electronically operated equipment must be fixed.  The fact that its 'handsfree' is not enough.  A collegue fell foul of that one...

Wow never knew of this i was thinking of eventually buying myself one of those Pioneer Bluetooth headunits and just put the phone in the middle, still just a thought for the moment.

[SMS01]

Not sure if that could apply in this case. The control unit is mounted (in my case) just above the MID display under the dashboard hood. That is where the thing is controlled from. If I was to leave my phone in the boot of the car, it would still work from the control unit using the bluetooth link to actually make the calls.

If they are saying that it needs to sit in a cradle to work then that defies the object of bluetooth hands free kits. If that is the case, I would suggest that all of the earpiece bluetooth headsets which you see people using are illegal, not a chance that they will have a specific mounting cradle for the phone whilst driving.

Probably need some sort of legal or police advice on this one to clarify.

[TheBoy]

Not sure if that could apply in this case. The control unit is mounted (in my case) just above the MID display under the dashboard hood. That is where the thing is controlled from. If I was to leave my phone in the boot of the car, it would still work from the control unit using the bluetooth link to actually make the calls.

If they are saying that it needs to sit in a cradle to work then that defies the object of bluetooth hands free kits. If that is the case, I would suggest that all of the earpiece bluetooth headsets which you see people using are illegal, not a chance that they will have a specific mounting cradle for the phone whilst driving.

Probably need some sort of legal or police advice on this one to clarify.

My collegue who fell foul was wearing the "I look like a idiot" type BT headset, phone in pocket.  He researched it a bit, and seems to be a grey area again, although the text I've read does say any handhled electronic device must be mounted. Hence, why I also installed proper cradle for iPaq.

When the law came in, due to nature of what we do, we asked about putting phones in boot etc. The advice back from company (a large company) was to switch off whilst driving.

[TheBoy]

Not sure if that could apply in this case. The control unit is mounted (in my case) just above the MID display under the dashboard hood. That is where the thing is controlled from. If I was to leave my phone in the boot of the car, it would still work from the control unit using the bluetooth link to actually make the calls.

If they are saying that it needs to sit in a cradle to work then that defies the object of bluetooth hands free kits. If that is the case, I would suggest that all of the earpiece bluetooth headsets which you see people using are illegal, not a chance that they will have a specific mounting cradle for the phone whilst driving.

Probably need some sort of legal or police advice on this one to clarify.

My collegue who fell foul was wearing the "I look like a idiot" type BT headset, phone in pocket.  He researched it a bit, and seems to be a grey area again, although the text I've read does say any handhled electronic device must be mounted. Hence, why I also installed proper cradle for iPaq.

When the law came in, due to nature of what we do, we asked about putting phones in boot etc. The advice back from company (a large company) was to switch off whilst driving.

Strangely, we were advised by compnay to switch off pagers as well!

[Boiler Man]

Your collegue, that got caught out, must have been really unlucky.

The number of idiots I see in a day driving around in deep conversation with their phone in hand, stuck to their ear, while trying to manoeuvre  the motor with the other hand, is unbelievable at times.

Think we have all learnt that practice is maddness.

Just getting back to the phone sets, I now think bluetooth could be okay, if it disegages with the phone when ignition is off.

Looks like the advantage with the Pa***t type system is a seperate display from the phone as opposed to using the phone display. :-/
If you use the basic link up set with the manufacturers prewiring. What does the omega display show when making and recieving a call?

[Andy B]

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The number of idiots I see in a day driving around in deep conversation with their phone in hand, stuck to their ear, while trying to manoeuvre  the motor with the other hand, is unbelievable at times....

The actual conversation, rather that holding the phone, is blamed for the lack of concentration on the driving. What's the difference between a legal hands free phone conversatation and a police radio conversation???  

[TheBoy]

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The number of idiots I see in a day driving around in deep conversation with their phone in hand, stuck to their ear, while trying to manoeuvre  the motor with the other hand, is unbelievable at times....

The actual conversation, rather that holding the phone, is blamed for the lack of concentration on the driving. What's the difference between a legal hands free phone conversatation and a police radio conversation???  

I think the driving 1 handed can be a problem - how many times have to seen white van man trying to negotiate a roundabout in his tranny whilst changing gear and on the blower?