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05omegav6

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Aircon Compressor Clutch
« on: 03 August 2013, 15:14:06 »

Got the aircon regassed, but the compressor clutch isn't engaging... :'(

0v going to the compressor, so where to be looking for the culprit :-\
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #1 on: 03 August 2013, 16:24:12 »

Clutch engages when connected direct to battery, aircon working as expected, which is a start :-\

Fuses 12, 14 and 15 ok as well :-\ have swapped the relay with both the horn one and K87. No change, all three relays work on the horn circuit, so confident that I have ruled out that problem.

Every thing else (according to the book of blocks) seems to point to the engine ecu or wiring to the relay :-\
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05omegav6

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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #2 on: 03 August 2013, 16:49:04 »

Might be a coincidence, but the coolant pump on the radiator has just gone up in smoke :o

When compressor connected direct to battery...

1. Front fans run constantly.
2. Second stage fan in the cabin air intake runs.
3. Main fan cuts in/out as expected from the gauge.

Plug compressor relay in, and 1. and 2. both cut out instantly, 3. stays the same.

What is likely to happen with the clutch permanently engaged, even when engine off?
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #3 on: 03 August 2013, 16:49:40 »

... or wiring to the relay :-\

At some point before I owned the car, the wiring underneath my battery had been 'modified' by Vauxhall. I've the receipt for it somewhere.
Any use?  :-\  :-\  :-\

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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #4 on: 03 August 2013, 17:08:50 »

All looks to be in order under there :-\

That looks like I soldered it ::)

Front fans do come on with the compressor off, but only after the rear fan which I believe is normal when aircon off...
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #5 on: 03 August 2013, 17:27:29 »

Got the aircon regassed, but the compressor clutch isn't engaging... :'(

0v going to the compressor, so where to be looking for the culprit :-\
Faulty low pressure switch :-\
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #6 on: 03 August 2013, 17:40:07 »

Got the aircon regassed, but the compressor clutch isn't engaging... :'(

0v going to the compressor, so where to be looking for the culprit :-\
Faulty low pressure switch :-\
Presumably there are only three things which will tell the ecu not to power the clutch relay...

1. Low pressure.
2. ECO switch on the climate panel.
3. OFF switch on the climate panel.

How reliable are the pressure switches, and are they available separately  :-\
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #7 on: 03 August 2013, 18:06:23 »

Got the aircon regassed, but the compressor clutch isn't engaging... :'(

0v going to the compressor, so where to be looking for the culprit :-\
Faulty low pressure switch :-\
Presumably there are only three things which will tell the ecu not to power the clutch relay...

1. Low pressure.
2. ECO switch on the climate panel.
3. OFF switch on the climate panel.

How reliable are the pressure switches, and are they available separately  :-\
How long`s a piece of string. :) Can be obtained separately :y
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #8 on: 03 August 2013, 18:56:44 »

All the other wiring seems to be behaving as expected. When the clutch is plugged to the battery, the front fans run instantly, and I have disconnected the radiator pump as that's now dead.

Shall try the pressure switch next

Thanks all :y
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #9 on: 03 August 2013, 19:00:15 »

low pressure switches are available but cost £58.+ on tc, hence i got a s/hand one from scrappie £2.00.
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #10 on: 03 August 2013, 19:11:11 »

 :y

Presumably the system will need regassing again ::)
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #11 on: 03 August 2013, 19:14:47 »

:y

Presumably the system will need regassing again ::)
Depends how quick you are with a spanner ;D
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #12 on: 03 August 2013, 19:17:04 »

 ;D
Might only make a small hole in the Ozone layer if I remember to unplug it first :-X
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #13 on: 03 August 2013, 19:27:01 »

;D
Might only make a small hole in the Ozone layer if I remember to unplug it first :-X

If the a/c specialist is going to re-gas your system afterwards, they'll normally de-gas it for you for free.
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Re: Aircon Compressor Clutch
« Reply #14 on: 03 August 2013, 19:30:00 »

I try to keep things simple... the machine is much quicker if there's nothing to drain out of it ;D

A valid observation though :y
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