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[New POD]

Podster, I hope you used the ECP 37% off code HOLIDAY37 when you ordered ? if not cancel and reorder

I used something that got me £56 off. Never paid full inflated price as EPC or GSF yet.

[New POD]

Indeed. Lookers Vauxhall liverpool want me to come in and pay before they'll order the discs. and they say pads, pins and seals not stocked anywhere in europe. 

I have therefore ordered Pads and discs off Euro car Parts to arrive NEXT thursday (Not stocked in store) and a pin kit and 42 mm seal kit off BIGGRED. I know the pin kit will be too short but They list it as Right for my car so worth the risk?

Sure they are vented? Had issues before with ECP giving solid discs for rears.

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Omega_3.2_2001/p/car-parts/regular-service/car-service-parts/brake-discs/?104720258&1&6e6187cb18a25dd67f9eac16ebffdd9f667fb49b&000027

 it says they are vented.  So they better had be or I'm going off on a rant.

[New POD]

Yep, has happened before when solid disks have been incorrectly fitted. Good job you noticed it before the brakes failed completely.

Pins and spring clips for the wider vented calipers are almost impossible to find now, and 99% of the time, if you purchase them, what will actually be supplied are the shorter pins for the unvented caliper. I would try to re-use the pins you have.

I have to disagree.

If I were a betting man, the person who stupidly fitted the solid discs could easily have fitted a solid spring kit, exacerbating the issue.

You have a simple choice to make...

1. Buy vented discs and the individual pins and springs (VX only and about £45 for both sides).

2. Keep your solid discs and buy refurbished solid calipers (vented not available) and buy a new solid pin kit for around £5.

Your choice, but using the car in its current state is criminally stupid, not to mention dangerous.

Apart from Length is there any other difference ? I only ask because I have a couple of tool makers I deal with professionally who'd be happy to machine a piece of stainless bar to the right length and diameter if if comes to it. 

[Kevin Wood]

A length of bar with a split pin through a hole in each end would do the job and be simple to fabricate.

[aaronjb]

The pins are a different length but otherwise identical, AFAIK.
The spring clip (the bit that always disintegrates around the rivet) is also a different width (just the central 'vertical' section, IIRC) and can lodge between the pads on a vented setup if the non-vented version is used.

Pins could be machined in short order - IIRC Nick W has posted elsewhere precisely how he'd make a set if you can find it. I can't as my search fu is weak!

[biggriffin]

If the pins are us, and you cannot get a decent s/h set or a new set(wanted ad in relevant section).

Then get a pair of large long split pins, one in from one side, one in from other side, splat ends, then cross lockwire. 

It's a system that was used on girling race calipers for years.

[johnnydog]

I have several classic Triumphs from the 60's and 70's, all of which use split pins to retain the front pads along with two spring steel clips not dissimilar to those on the rear pads of the Omega.
Whether the original pins or split pins are used, as long as the correct spring clip is used for the pads in question, I don't see why they shouldn't work.
The split pins in question have a flatter eye which I presume reduces any likelihood of the eye pulling through the hole in the caliper. If they are a comfortable diameter to fit the hole but without being too tight, and cut to the appropriate length with approx 10mm excess to splay over without fouling any other component if it rotates slightly, then I would argue they would be a satisfactory alternative.

[New POD]

I was expecting the new discs and pads from Euro Car parts to be delivered Thursday, but they came this morning. Padgid and Brembro repectively and on  Saturdayy Biggred delivered the seal kit and pin and spring kit.


I'd already checked that once I got the piston back into place there was no leakage, so no need for the seal kit.


So The first big headache was getting the handbrake adjuster to adjust (who designed that shit idea ?) to allow the disc to be removed.

Then The Pins WERE definitely wrong. 
As were the spring clips
So I had to use the old parts GRR.


But then I couldn't get it to go back together.  Could I get the pins to line up straight?


Eventually I worked out that the Brembo pads had slots which were about 0.75mm too far one way, so I was forced to get a round needle file out and fettle them. Once that was done, It all went back together right. I bleed that side, adjusted as best I could the hand brake through the little hole in the disc and then moved onto the other side. I got it all back together but realised that I hadn't taken enough off the the slots so one side was binding, so out with the Pads and a bit more fettling. Then bleed that side.


That was quicker and then I went out for a drive.


Seems fine. Handbrake is a bit high for my liking, but I'll let it bed in and have another adjustment next week.


Now to return incorrect parts.

[TheBoy]

Which is (one, out of many reasons) why I always use GM pads. £10 a set delivered, albeit with the wrong pins, I fail to see why nobody else does.

[New POD]

Which is (one, out of many reasons) why I always use GM pads. £10 a set delivered, albeit with the wrong pins, I fail to see why nobody else does.

Vauxall Dealer (Lookers Liverpool) said "NLA" (or was it "NLS" ?) - hence choosing to order off euro crap parts.

Anyway I sent the picture and GM part number from this post http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=127928.msg1821673#new to autovaux, who emailed me back to say they got their supplier to measure the parts and they match the picture, so I have order a set.

A mate also offered to make up a set out of 6mm diameter ground silver steel, if they arrive and they are not right. 

[robson]

who did you send the pictures to? what supplier

[aaronjb]

who did you send the pictures to? what supplier

It's in his post:

Anyway I sent the picture and GM part number from this post http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=127928.msg1821673#new to autovaux, who emailed me back to say they got their supplier to measure the parts and they match the picture, so I have order a set.

http://www.autovaux.co.uk/

[Nick W]

Anyway I sent the picture and GM part number from this post http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=127928.msg1821673#new to autovaux, who emailed me back to say they got their supplier to measure the parts and they match the picture, so I have order a set.

A mate also offered to make up a set out of 6mm diameter ground silver steel, if they arrive and they are not right.

The originals are only mild steel, so silver steel isn't really necessary. It's not very good in bending either.
Replacement pins to an existing pattern shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes per pin on a lathe to reduce the smaller diameter and turn a groove for the spring clip. Then it's just a matter of forming the other end with a hammer.


I would go with Trev's suggestion of split pins if you can easily find any long enough

[TheBoy]

Vauxall Dealer (Lookers Liverpool) said "NLA" (or was it "NLS" ?) - hence choosing to order off euro crap parts.

That's because a guy not far from here bought up all the stock, and flogs 'em £10 delivered

[robson]

I should wake up before posting