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« on: 13 October 2017, 12:23:34 »

has anyone tried any of the usb memory stick players . designed to work on any car with a cig lighter socket and fm radio .they seem to start from about six quid but not sure if thats only a usb charger function version.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #1 on: 13 October 2017, 13:06:40 »

They will be shite, utter, utter rubbish.

They basically work as FM modulator, taking USB/memory stick input and broadcasting it on an FM frequency. The Omega's radio ariel is the back window, the signal will be poor to very poor. The quality of the audio will be..... you guessed it. Rubbish!

What radio do you have in your car?
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Re: usb music
« Reply #2 on: 13 October 2017, 14:25:37 »

the standard cassette/ 4 disc changer type. in my omega but wasnt just thinking about in that car . has anyone any experience of having one of these units . .?
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Re: usb music
« Reply #3 on: 13 October 2017, 14:33:08 »

My posting above was based on my experience of wireless FM modulators, but no matter where you want to use it either car/house/office it will be rubbish. You want a hard wired solution, if you want it wireless, go for a bluetooth adaptor into a wired connection.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #4 on: 13 October 2017, 14:39:28 »

ive been reading up on these and it suggests the fm modulators are better than fm transmitters because they connect in-line with the ariel lead. is this correct ? . unit in omega is fine and working correctly but in my other cars i dont even use the radio (too much rubbish!) so something that connects straight to ariel plug does sound better ?
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Re: usb music
« Reply #5 on: 13 October 2017, 14:42:23 »

Splicing into the ariel is an option, but if for other cars you are better getting another head unit with an AUX input.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #6 on: 13 October 2017, 14:48:26 »

not an option on other cars. head units to remain 'period' if you know what i mean. will see if anyone has any experience of these units and go from there.other old fashioned idea used to be the jack plug to dummy cassette tape but will see. thankyou
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Re: usb music
« Reply #7 on: 13 October 2017, 15:20:02 »

Back when my car radio was working, I used a cheapo FM transmitter (Poundland, I think) to relay CDs that wouldn't play on the CD/Radio (computer copied CDs!) via a portable CD player and it worked fine, no problem.
To clarify: copied CD in player - the sort used for walking/jogging - and the FM transmitter plugged into it via the 3.5mm socket, then tune car radio to transmitter's output channel and enjoy!  :y

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Re: usb music
« Reply #8 on: 13 October 2017, 15:50:55 »

ive been reading up on these and it suggests the fm modulators are better than fm transmitters because they connect in-line with the ariel lead. is this correct ? . unit in omega is fine and working correctly but in my other cars i dont even use the radio (too much rubbish!) so something that connects straight to ariel plug does sound better ?

not an option on other cars. head units to remain 'period' if you know what i mean. will see if anyone has any experience of these units and go from there.other old fashioned idea used to be the jack plug to dummy cassette tape but will see. thankyou

They do kinda work, but as Tunnie says they can sound rubbish compared to Direct input CD, Bluetooth, MP3 etc.

The main reason is your trying to pipe near CD quality through a FM Modulators Bandwidth, its never goes to be the same quality, similar story with the Cassette type setup.

The direct inline Aerial ones do have the advantage of a better FM receive signal than the RF Mod type ones but you still have the FM Bandwidth issue, the inline ones are a must for places like London where the FM Spectrum is just full up (mainly with Pirates) so no empty channels to tune to.

The really Cheapo FM Mod ones are Mono, there are some better Higher Spec Stereo ones out there which carry a cost premium, but these days cheap to buy MP3 or Bluetooth adapters I dont think its worth even going down a an expensive FM Mod route anymore, spend the money on getting the HU modded for BT or Aux In.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #9 on: 13 October 2017, 21:40:30 »

if you want to play from an sd card I have one of these



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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152632215916 (or these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253107106372) it works very well.  sound is obviously not as good as cd but much better than tape, better or as good as radio and far better than those cheapo cassette adaptors with a lead.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #10 on: 13 October 2017, 22:06:31 »

Wow! I don't actually want one, but how do they do it for the price? The cheaper one still has car and mains charger included - FH!

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Re: usb music
« Reply #11 on: 14 October 2017, 17:37:10 »

Hi mgmog. Never seen one of those but i dont have the facility to record on an sd card .but the ideas good and seeing as it comes from china that would explain the price!.my idea was to be able to play a memory stick in my cars which dont have a cd player or any modern unit and the plug in cig lighter unit SEEMED like a possible option but no one i know has one to try or had one. The china ones are cheap on ebay but dont always arrive and the maplins versions look the same at ten times the price.cd player in my omega still ok for cd's .can mod to an aux in if req for other media like ipod etc. Just running a few thought around my head ? Cheers
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Re: usb music
« Reply #12 on: 14 October 2017, 22:11:16 »

See my guide, adding AUX input via the CD changer.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #13 on: 15 October 2017, 17:10:50 »

Thanks mr tunnie. Yes read that.Thats no problem .was mainly thinking for cars with only rad /cassette .will see if i can try out a maplins one before purchase to see how good or bad they are. Cheers all.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #14 on: 15 October 2017, 18:34:07 »

Cheap FM Modulators are shite. So that's *anything* you will find on ebay.

Good ones are significantly better, but still not as good as a CD.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #15 on: 16 October 2017, 10:55:27 »

trouble is im struggling to find ANY usb player fm modulators on ebay or anywhere else. they all seem to be fm transmitters.there are some stand alone modulators but then they need a sound input so adding the aux would be easier than that.im off to maplins today to have a nosy !
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Re: usb music
« Reply #16 on: 16 October 2017, 18:24:40 »

trouble is im struggling to find ANY usb player fm modulators on ebay or anywhere else. they all seem to be fm transmitters.there are some stand alone modulators but then they need a sound input so adding the aux would be easier than that.im off to maplins today to have a nosy !
If you are capable of adding a hardwired modulator, you are capable of wiring in the required audio lead it will need  :-\


Have I missed something here  :-\



But, as a reminder, avoid ebay. EVERYTHING ON EBAY IS UTTER SHITE. End of. Accept it, get over it, move on.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #17 on: 16 October 2017, 18:59:20 »

ok. thankyou for all comments
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« Reply #18 on: 16 October 2017, 19:13:46 »

Hi mgmog. Never seen one of those but i dont have the facility to record on an sd card .but the ideas good and seeing as it comes from china that would explain the price!.my idea was to be able to play a memory stick in my cars which dont have a cd player or any modern unit and the plug in cig lighter unit SEEMED like a possible option but no one i know has one to try or had one. The china ones are cheap on ebay but dont always arrive and the maplins versions look the same at ten times the price.cd player in my omega still ok for cd's .can mod to an aux in if req for other media like ipod etc. Just running a few thought around my head ? Cheers

If you can record to a USB memory stick then you can record to an sd card.  You may need a USB card reader they are 99p or so even from the UK http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222556696575 . that will allow you to plug an sd card into a usb slot on your computer and copy songs to it as if it was a usb memory stick. 
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Re: usb music
« Reply #19 on: 16 October 2017, 19:17:07 »

thanks for that.
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« Reply #20 on: 16 October 2017, 19:31:08 »

i did get one of these earlier this year  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/382189158857
 1.75 (actually i got the 3.60 model which shows the track name).  It works ok i don't use it because the tape player is better and less obtrusive.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #21 on: 17 October 2017, 10:24:18 »

if you want to play from an sd card I have one of these



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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152632215916 (or these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253107106372) it works very well.  sound is obviously not as good as cd but much better than tape, better or as good as radio and far better than those cheapo cassette adaptors with a lead.

I had one of those when I used an old Transit Connect, they`re not bad but only as good as the tape heads, they will need a good clean if it hasn`t been used for years.
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Re: usb music
« Reply #22 on: 17 October 2017, 14:13:43 »

thanks everyone. a few options there to consider.adding an aux to omega or any other car for that matter and then using a portable music player like a usb walkman etc would be one way to go. others have a boot cd changer which i can fit a cd emulator(or aux skt) to play usb/sd etc or the fm modulator route for cars with only an fm radio.cheers all
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Re: usb music
« Reply #23 on: 28 October 2017, 09:28:25 »

As others have said, the cheesy Chinebay units are utter trash - you get what you pay for, and if it looks cheap, then so will be the quality and performance.

An in-line unit spliced into the aerial lead is usually the way to go, however, with the Omega FM aerial being built into the rear screen and signal coming from a small booster unit in order to get it as far as the front of the car, usually means that cutting the aerial lead often knocks out the FM radio as a result as the signal just isn`t healthy enough.

We fit a lot of A/V units to cars, and we use these FM Modulators. Not cheap, but NEVER had an issue with them.

https://www.dndservices.co.uk/am-88t.html

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