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[STEMO]

Some interesting charts here. Only guesswork though, no matter how factual they might appear:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5747104

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Romour has it that slim Phil is going to give diesel a 'bit of a kicking' in his speech.

[Viral_Jim]

1p/litre has been mooted.

I'll have to see if the Mrs has a spare 65p a week she can lend me.   

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

1p/litre has been mooted.

I'll have to see if the Mrs has a spare 65p a week she can lend me.   

Thin end of the wedge, Mr Jimmy.

This is just the start.

[Viral_Jim]

I don't doubt it, not for a second. Which is why the Ovlov is the last diesel I will buy. However I suspect direct attacks on cars like mine will be financially immaterial. The Gov't will go after new car sales, and company car drivers.

Too big a hike in fuel duty will put the dampners on our road based economy and over the time horizon of my Volvo ownership (4yrs max), splitting commercial and domestic diesel is unrealistic, and doesn't fit the eco-narrative.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I don't doubt it, not for a second. Which is why the Ovlov is the last diesel I will buy. However I suspect direct attacks on cars like mine will be financially immaterial. The Gov't will go after new car sales, and company car drivers.

Too big a hike in fuel duty will put the dampners on our road based economy and over the time horizon of my Volvo ownership (4yrs max), splitting commercial and domestic diesel is unrealistic, and doesn't fit the eco-narrative.

It will.

Perhaps Elon Musk will convert the haulage industry from derv to electric trucks which can go from 0-60 in 5 seconds.

[Kevin Wood]

I don't doubt it, not for a second. Which is why the Ovlov is the last diesel I will buy. However I suspect direct attacks on cars like mine will be financially immaterial. The Gov't will go after new car sales, and company car drivers.

Too big a hike in fuel duty will put the dampners on our road based economy and over the time horizon of my Volvo ownership (4yrs max), splitting commercial and domestic diesel is unrealistic, and doesn't fit the eco-narrative.

It will.

Perhaps Elon Musk will convert the haulage industry from derv to electric trucks which can go from 0-60 in 5 seconds.

.. and all the lights will go out.

[aaronjb]

.. and all the lights will go out.

Well, that's going to happen anyway when we are driven from reliable, useful fuel sources for power stations like nuclear and on to "renewables" ..

[Viral_Jim]

.. and all the lights will go out.

Well, that's going to happen anyway when we are driven from reliable, useful fuel sources for power stations like nuclear and on to "renewables" ..

Maybe sooner than you think. An extra £100m for "Plug-in car grant" - another scrappage scheme maybe? 

[aaronjb]

.. and all the lights will go out.

Well, that's going to happen anyway when we are driven from reliable, useful fuel sources for power stations like nuclear and on to "renewables" ..

Maybe sooner than you think. An extra £100m for "Plug-in car grant" - another scrappage scheme maybe? 

Indeed - I notice all the plug in points that appeared outside a certain employer; usually populated by large Mercedes "plug in Hybrids" and the Tesla..

[Viral_Jim]

Yup, I reckon that merc can just about make It out of the car park under its own batter power  .

Guy in my team has just picked up a new i3 which you'll probably start to see around

[Kevin Wood]

Yup, I reckon that merc can just about make It out of the car park under its own batter power  .

Guy in my team has just picked up a new i3 which you'll probably start to see around

Yes, seeing quite a few of them. Not sure what to make of them, really - except the standard fit tyres look like space-savers! I'm guessing they don't take well to "spirited" driving? 

[aaronjb]

Yes, seeing quite a few of them. Not sure what to make of them, really - except the standard fit tyres look like space-savers! I'm guessing they don't take well to "spirited" driving? 

Actually felt a lot like driving the (new) MX5..

[Kevin Wood]

Yes, seeing quite a few of them. Not sure what to make of them, really - except the standard fit tyres look like space-savers! I'm guessing they don't take well to "spirited" driving? 

Actually felt a lot like driving the (new) MX5..

In a good way, or a bad way?

[aaronjb]

That depends if you like the new MX5 Very pointy, nimble, decent turn of pace but not going to set the world on fire in terms of outright speed - I imagine the extremely low COG helps (all the batteries live under your feet), and the typically too-firm BMW suspension makes it feel more gokart like.