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All that security and high tec ...... not
« on: 27 November 2017, 09:41:53 »

Seems like the owners of prestige marque cars are going to have to go back to basics....

Krooklok to sell anyone ??  :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42132804/relay-crime-theft-caught-on-camera

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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #1 on: 27 November 2017, 10:14:16 »

.. and all because the stupid owners are too lazy to press a button on the remote. ::)
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #2 on: 27 November 2017, 10:24:43 »

Absolutely, keyless entry.

The box pretends to be the car and gets a code from the remote, it then pretends to be the key and sends the code(s) to the car.

There is a lot to be said for a system that requires a manual input to transmit the codes.
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #3 on: 27 November 2017, 11:00:16 »

.. and all because the stupid owners are too lazy to press a button on the remote. ::)

Might be a little harsh on the owners ;) More like the manufacturers assume the owners are too lazy..

(I mean - in this case maybe they are, maybe they aren't..)
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #4 on: 27 November 2017, 11:06:31 »

This was on watchdog earlier in the year, same piece of footage as well.
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #5 on: 27 November 2017, 11:07:41 »

.. and all because the stupid owners are too lazy to press a button on the remote. ::)

Might be a little harsh on the owners ;) More like the manufacturers assume the owners are too lazy..

(I mean - in this case maybe they are, maybe they aren't..)

OK. Maybe there should have been a "perceived to be" in there somewhere. The point is, it wouldn't have taken a genius to figure out that they were in the process of developing a completely insecure security system. Then again, it looks like a German car, developed where there is no "outside the box". ;D
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #6 on: 27 November 2017, 11:07:48 »

Yup, I de-specced Keyless Entry from my M140i for this very reason.

That said, if someone knows what they're doing and wants your car, its as good as gone. I'd rather a remote scanner than someone come into my house for the keys.  ::)
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #7 on: 27 November 2017, 11:08:50 »

I imagine his insurance company will say it is impossible to steal a modern car without the key........therefore. :'( :'(
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #8 on: 27 November 2017, 11:18:57 »

I imagine his insurance company will say it is impossible to steal a modern car without the key........therefore. :'( :'(
Recovery vehicle, just winch it on.
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #9 on: 27 November 2017, 11:39:51 »

I imagine his insurance company will say it is impossible to steal a modern car without the key........therefore. :'( :'(
Recovery vehicle, just winch it on.

From the voice of experience?
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #10 on: 27 November 2017, 11:42:27 »

Benefit of Omega ownership, have to actually press button, nothing to capture.

That and no bugger would steal an Omega today, worthless things  :D  ;D
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #11 on: 27 November 2017, 11:46:05 »

I imagine his insurance company will say it is impossible to steal a modern car without the key........therefore. :'( :'(
Recovery vehicle, just winch it on.

From the voice of experience?
Oi, you, I expect that from some of the more ignorant members on here, who have no idea that 99.9% of scousers are law abiding citizens, but you should know better.  ;D
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #12 on: 27 November 2017, 12:38:42 »

I imagine his insurance company will say it is impossible to steal a modern car without the key........therefore. :'( :'(
Recovery vehicle, just winch it on.

From the voice of experience?
Oi, you, I expect that from some of the more ignorant members on here, who have no idea that 99.9% of scousers are law abiding citizens, but you should know better.  ;D

Er...that may be a slightly optimistic estimate. :)
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #13 on: 27 November 2017, 12:43:30 »

This is rife around where I live, in fact that cctv clip is from round by us. Thankfully no one looks twice at 14 year old Omega's and VW tat but I still keep a crook lock on the ones that don't get much use and sit in the drive.
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Re: All that security and high tec ...... not
« Reply #14 on: 27 November 2017, 12:43:44 »

.. and all because the stupid owners are too lazy to press a button on the remote. ::)

Might be a little harsh on the owners ;) More like the manufacturers assume the owners are too lazy..

(I mean - in this case maybe they are, maybe they aren't..)
OK. Maybe there should have been a "perceived to be" in there somewhere. The point is, it wouldn't have taken a genius to figure out that they were in the process of developing a completely insecure security system. Then again, it looks like a German car, developed where there is no "outside the box". ;D

It would appear that the system is a single code which unlocks and disables the immobiliser.

I would have expected an RF system for unlock and then a separate near field setup for the immobiliser (ala the Omega one but extended to circa 1-2m range), clearly not!
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