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Steve B

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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #30 on: 22 September 2016, 22:50:23 »

34 000 posts and now after buying a nice new modern shinny car, you look back and start slagging the omega off.....Unreal  ::)
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #31 on: 22 September 2016, 22:51:27 »

34 000 posts and now after buying a nice new modern shinny car, you look back and start slagging the omega off.....Unreal  ::)
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #32 on: 22 September 2016, 22:52:55 »

34 000 posts and now after buying a nice new modern shinny car, you look back and start slagging the omega off.....Unreal  ::)

Considering that plenty of those posts have been about how it doesn't make sense to buy newer when an Omega is so cheap to run :-X ::)
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #33 on: 22 September 2016, 22:56:43 »

34 000 posts and now after buying a nice new modern shinny car, you look back and start slagging the omega off.....Unreal  ::)

Considering that plenty of those posts have been about how it doesn't make sense to buy newer when an Omega is so cheap to run :-X ::)
The pinical of suburban irony ;D
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #34 on: 22 September 2016, 23:02:40 »

Only one question...

Why haven't you bought it yet?



I am awaiting the owner MOTing it.   

He is moving house, preparing his old house for rent and selling some surplus cars including a Triumph Toldeo, an Old 7 Series, a 2.2 Omega (much lower miles, but failed MOT on Emissions I think), an old Cherokee, and a 309 Diesel. 
And giving away an knackered Escort Van

Unfortunately I don't think made him aware of my impatience. 
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #35 on: 22 September 2016, 23:43:28 »

Fair dos :y

Remind him how much space he'll have once you've collected it...
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #36 on: 23 September 2016, 07:20:10 »

34 000 posts and now after buying a nice new modern shinny car, you look back and start slagging the omega off.....Unreal  ::)

Look back at my posts over the years, I've always not liked the 3.2 as an engine and said nothing new.

Why do you think I never LPGd it, unlike the 2.2?

I was encouraging him to get a 3.0 instead, but I see you read past all that.

Unreal.  ::)
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #37 on: 23 September 2016, 08:26:36 »

Hi!

Having owned various omegas (and carlton) for many years now, this is how I see it:

- Omega is no more complex, complicated to work on or more expensive to run than most of it's contemporaries (not to mention newer cars)
- corrosion is a very common enemy (especialy in hummid climate like UK), and usualy is what it gets it killed (mechanical things usually outlive the bodywork). If it has good bodywork, and not wrecked on a mechanical side, its allways worth keeping.
- usual weak spots (as others said): front WB bushes, ARB bushings anddroplinks, rear donut bushes (not very often), crapy handbrake, propshaft rubber discs, headlights fade to yellow and adjustment pins break, cabin heater breaks (nasty job to replace), HBV valve leaks, crankshaft ventilation blocks and causes oil leaks, camcover seals, dispacks break (usually after HBV failed, and leaked on it), crankshaft sensor fail (new needs cable re-routed), oilcooler breaks and oilcooler plate corredes (but can be avoided if antifreez is always in cooling system), Multiram vacuum stuff needs to be handled with care (not to brake it), some 2.6 have faulty valve seams, some 3.0 have faulty head gasket (leaks water outwards), exhaust manifold gaskets fail sometimes (and it is a hell to replace)
- biggest problem is, IMO, that many garages are not familiar with above -> usually generates wrong diagnosis, expensive repairs and unsolved problems - YOU NEED A GARAGE THAT KNOW ITS WAY AROUND THIS CAR
- also, V6 is a bit complex (compared to 4 pot engines, and some other V6 engines), if nothing else, then due to the amount of components installed on it. But, it's not a rocket science -> IMO, when working on it, there is no place for hastiness and hurry. Just take your time while working on the engine.
- IMO, when performing some work on the engine, it's best to do everything that is in that area and might need replacement in some near future (i.e. when you do something in the V-valley, best to do the thermostat,cooler,bridge,camcover seals,clean crankshaft vent -> kill many birds with one stone)
- timing belt - make sure it's done by somebody who is experienced with this.
- 4-speed auto gearbox is a dinosaur
- as it is a quite old car, parts are getting really cheap -> running costs are usually very low
- V6 is not easy on fuel, but, hey, if you want high MPG, dont buy V6 petrol -> I'm sure that when they designed the engine, consumption wasn't high on list of demands -> also, other similar engines are as thirsty as GM V6 (at least)
- generally, this cars are capable of high mileage, if taken good (and wise) care of
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So, buy it, have it checked by someone from this forum that services this cars, repair/replace what needs to be done, and enjoy many fast and comfortable miles.
15k a year is not much if its most on open road. You'll probably use it for years.
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #38 on: 23 September 2016, 08:51:25 »

34 000 posts and now after buying a nice new modern shinny car, you look back and start slagging the omega off.....Unreal  ::)

Considering that plenty of those posts have been about how it doesn't make sense to buy newer when an Omega is so cheap to run :-X ::)

Until it gets to the point where it needs welding and a replacement clutch, out of reach of the average DIY'er  ;)
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #39 on: 23 September 2016, 08:52:43 »

34 000 posts and now after buying a nice new modern shinny car, you look back and start slagging the omega off.....Unreal  ::)

At what point have I said this about the Omega? The engine yes, but the car?

Should also make a point I still own and drive a 3.2 Omega, not that makes an difference to your statement.  ::)
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #40 on: 23 September 2016, 08:58:06 »

34 000 posts and now after buying a nice new modern shinny car, you look back and start slagging the omega off.....Unreal  ::)

Considering that plenty of those posts have been about how it doesn't make sense to buy newer when an Omega is so cheap to run :-X ::)

Until it gets to the point where it needs welding and a replacement clutch, out of reach of the average DIY'er  ;)
Clutch is perfectly Diyable, welding less so, as for the rest of the suspension issues... had you done them when the components started to fail rather than waiting until they fell off, you would only have had the welding to worry about ::)

That said you were clearly trying to talk yourself into a newer car, which you now have, so it's all rather moot ;)
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #41 on: 23 September 2016, 13:12:30 »


The Omega can easily see well over 250,000 miles, even driven hard. In fact higher mileage ones are a better buy as they've been kept in use, and don't respond well to neglect.


I'd say they do best and last longest when driven hard (of course, not from stone cold).
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #42 on: 23 September 2016, 14:11:20 »

Don't care about all of the ins and outs of Omega ownership,I still like driving mine and at no time in 15 years of owning Omegas...I have never broken down and have never been been let down by the car. Conversely I have passed over the years hundreds of newer cars on the hard shoulder of various motorways etc So you pays your money and takes your choice and yes...before anyone reminds me that I have a low miler VXR8.....I'm not kidding when I say that I still prefer the Omegas and that the VXR8 hasn't been driven for nearly a month to date to prove that point. ::) :P
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #43 on: 23 September 2016, 14:30:02 »

That's a good review  :y
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Re: Encourage me to buy an Mv6
« Reply #44 on: 23 September 2016, 15:38:16 »

I do appreciate that some of us have to move on,mainly for practical reasons,and I can see that having a 15 year old car with old technology as opposed to a virtually new car with all the bells and whistles is a no brainer.But let's all remember that all those nice little new tech gizmos can fail with little or no warning and let's face it we can all park a car in a car park without parking assist....it's called driver involvement and who needs rain sensing wipers or having your lights being switched on for you when it starts getting dark ::) and collision avoidance...the list could become endless,come on fellas are you men or steering wheel attendants? fight back, and drive your up to date pussymobile as your every day driver and keep a 3.0 or a 3.2 Omega in your garage for those weekend run outs and dangle your kahunas out of the window that you have had to press the button to open yourselves ;D ;D BTW My case comes up next week at the local magistrates court :-X
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