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Title: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: zirk on 11 October 2018, 20:52:17
Might be of Interest to some peeps  ;)

Good price for 1TB SSD from Crucial for 140 quid, possibly limited Stock and Time Scales.

Spec: 560 MB/s Read, 510 MB/s Write, 5 Year Limited Warranty, Comes with ACRONIS TRUE IMAGE™ For Crucial Cloning Software

https://www.box.co.uk/Crucial-MX500-1TB-2.5-SSD-SATA-6Gbs_2289802.html

(https://www.box.co.uk/system/productimage.aspx?id=3251592&quality=90&maxwidth=450&maxheight=350)
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 11 October 2018, 21:12:51
Good spot, good value, but not quite the saving they claim, as Crucial MX 1Tb have been under £200 for a while.

At £140 I'd consider having one if it was another brand :)
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Rods2 on 12 October 2018, 14:59:10
Good spot as £35 cheaper than the Samsung ones and I have ordered up 2 of them.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 12 October 2018, 18:37:42
Just sent my crucial back, lasted just over 2 months.

Replaced it with a Samsung.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 12 October 2018, 22:44:51
Just sent my crucial back, lasted just over 2 months.

Replaced it with a Samsung.
They giving you a full refund, or partial (which is why I won't buy Crucial SSDs now)?
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 13 October 2018, 09:07:06
Just sent my crucial back, lasted just over 2 months.

Replaced it with a Samsung.
They giving you a full refund, or partial (which is why I won't buy Crucial SSDs now)?

Replacement :(

I shall use it in my old Toshiba.

The Samsung appears slightly slower than the crucial.

I don't know what the Crucial drive did to my Dell, but I had a hell of a job reloading Windows onto the new drive.

It took several attempts, nearly gave up, lost about a day and a half rebuilding.

Everything is running fine now though.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 13 October 2018, 20:20:12
The drive wouldn’t do “anything” to get he laptop, but if using EFI boot, you might have to reset that
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 14 October 2018, 08:08:26
The drive wouldn’t do “anything” to get he laptop, but if using EFI boot, you might have to reset that

Fitted the new Samsung drive.

Couldn't get it to boot up off a Win 10 USB.

Inserted a recovery USB, took ages to boot up, but installed it.

As I wanted to do a clean install, inserted the Win 10 USB, again took ages to boot up, deleted all the partitions and did a clean install.

Then did all the Win 10 updates - ran for 8 hours and failed to install update 1803.

Tried again the following day, and it installed 1803 (took 2 hours).

Just to add, I was plugged into the Ethernet, not wifi.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 14 October 2018, 11:51:42
Firstly, for a clean install, you should not be attempting *anything* other than 1803 at this time.

Secondly, as stated, a failed/failing drive can not impact performance once replaced and (if reqd) configured.  Namely because it can't maintain a telepathic link from afar.

Thirdly, any out of sync update can fail. In sync updates can also fail if it follows an out of sync update without a reboot.  Windows does this to try to stop people destroying it by doing daft things ;)
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 14 October 2018, 13:45:34
Firstly, for a clean install, you should not be attempting *anything* other than 1803 at this time.

Secondly, as stated, a failed/failing drive can not impact performance once replaced and (if reqd) configured.  Namely because it can't maintain a telepathic link from afar.

Thirdly, any out of sync update can fail. In sync updates can also fail if it follows an out of sync update without a reboot.  Windows does this to try to stop people destroying it by doing daft things ;)

Ah right, doesn't explain why it had difficulty booting though.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 14 October 2018, 14:14:20
Ah right, doesn't explain why it had difficulty booting though.
Off the USB? It will make no difference*.  If off the SSD, and you are using EFI booting, you'd possibly have to reset the EFI boot order unless the partition layout and EFI boot file wasn't identical.


*to when you last booted off USB...  ...assuming no EFI changes such as SecureBoot since then.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 14 October 2018, 14:22:33
Ah right, doesn't explain why it had difficulty booting though.
Off the USB? It will make no difference*.  If off the SSD, and you are using EFI booting, you'd possibly have to reset the EFI boot order unless the partition layout and EFI boot file wasn't identical.


*to when you last booted off USB...  ...assuming no EFI changes such as SecureBoot since then.

No change made to EFI,  I've only ever rebuilt off USB, had no problems until the Crucial drive failed.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: zirk on 15 October 2018, 02:37:25
Good spot, good value, but not quite the saving they claim, as Crucial MX 1Tb have been under £200 for a while.

At £140 I'd consider having one if it was another brand :)

Ok, well if you dont trust Crucial and want a slightly cheaper make there is always this for £118 for 960gb -

and its 3D NAND for the money.  ;)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADATA-ASU650SS-960GT-C-960GB-Ultimate-Spacer/dp/B07D9WW9WS/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1539566389&sr=1-1&keywords=ADATA+ASU650SS-960GT-C+960GB+Ultimate+SU650+SSD+2.5+SATA3+7mm+%282.5mm+Spacer%29+3D+NAND+520%2F450+MB%2Fs+75K+IOPS+-+%28Components+%3E+SSD+Solid+State+Drive%29

(https://proline.pl/pic/asu650ss-960gt-c_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 15 October 2018, 11:02:45
I'm in the market for some 1TB (or 960Gb ;D) SSDs, but I'm more of an upmarket man, due to the spanking they will get.  They will end up in servers ;D, and I'm far too tight to pay for enterprise class SSDs (about £8k for 800Gb).

Currently, the SSDs in the servers are 2 x 960Gb SANdisk Ultra II's per server, alongside the 8 x 1.2Tb SAS drives per server.  These SSDs have had 3 or 4 years of being thrashed and have not missed a beat :y
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: zirk on 15 October 2018, 16:14:39
I'm in the market for some 1TB (or 960Gb ;D) SSDs, but I'm more of an upmarket man, due to the spanking they will get.  They will end up in servers ;D, and I'm far too tight to pay for enterprise class SSDs (about £8k for 800Gb).

Currently, the SSDs in the servers are 2 x 960Gb SANdisk Ultra II's per server, alongside the 8 x 1.2Tb SAS drives per server.  These SSDs have had 3 or 4 years of being thrashed and have not missed a beat :y
My first 2 SSD's I ever owned were SanDisk Ultra II's, both were 480gb, bought on separate occasions from different sources, and they wernt cheap at the time either, both are now screwed, first one just gave up the ghost one day, never to be seen since, dead as a Do Do, Second one kept Freezing before giving up, occasionally it shows up with a Partition Tool, but as soon as you try and do anything with it, Partition, Format etc, just disappears again, till next time. Other one was a 500gb WD which lasted about a year before dying  >:(

Only others Ive had since are a 500gb Kingston Memory which is still going strong, and a Samsumg 256gb in a M2 Slot, both still good, no issues, Oh, and them Cheapo Light Weights, Integral 25 Quid Jobbies, there surprisingly still going.  :)

Im just trying to think with the collection of Real Sata HDs Ive got, dont think Ive ever had one fail yet, some make some wonderful noises when spinning but there all still working, maybe theres life in the Old Vinyls yet.  ;D :-\



Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: aaronjb on 15 October 2018, 16:23:11
Im just trying to think with the collection of Real Sata HDs Ive got, dont think Ive ever had one fail yet, some make some wonderful noises when spinning but there all still working, maybe theres life in the Old Vinyls yet.  ;D :-\

I recently acquired a 1990s vintage SCSI drive (3.5", so relatively modern ;D) .. I'm going to be interested to see if it spins up once the replacement PSU for it's enclosure arrives ;D (it's inside a http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/impact500mk2 )
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: zirk on 15 October 2018, 16:29:11
Im just trying to think with the collection of Real Sata HDs Ive got, dont think Ive ever had one fail yet, some make some wonderful noises when spinning but there all still working, maybe theres life in the Old Vinyls yet.  ;D :-\

I recently acquired a 1990s vintage SCSI drive (3.5", so relatively modern ;D) .. I'm going to be interested to see if it spins up once the replacement PSU for it's enclosure arrives ;D (it's inside a http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/impact500mk2 )
My money is on it will still be a worker  :y              ..........now, about these IDE Drives you wanna buy off me.  ;D
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: aaronjb on 15 October 2018, 16:31:43
Im just trying to think with the collection of Real Sata HDs Ive got, dont think Ive ever had one fail yet, some make some wonderful noises when spinning but there all still working, maybe theres life in the Old Vinyls yet.  ;D :-\

I recently acquired a 1990s vintage SCSI drive (3.5", so relatively modern ;D) .. I'm going to be interested to see if it spins up once the replacement PSU for it's enclosure arrives ;D (it's inside a http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/impact500mk2 )
My money is on it will still be a worker  :y              ..........now, about these IDE Drives you wanna buy off me.  ;D

If they were MFM, you'd be talking my language ;D
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 15 October 2018, 18:51:51
I've been relatively lucky with SSDs - failures have been Crucial (but I did have a fair few of them, only one failed) and Techman (fine with Win7, but constant corruption with Win8/10 - across all drives (they came with some PoS systems)).



aaronjb - shame, I binned a box load of SCSI-I drives only a couple of months ago. Massive, at 4.3Gb.  I had an 8" drive on my shelf in the office up until I moved desks. Weight a ton.  No idea of the interface, as it wasn't a standard connector. Came out of some proprietary 1980s Unix box.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 October 2018, 19:20:46
It's always the case. As soon as you throw something away, you find a need for it. ::)

I had a 35 track 5.25" drive in the loft until recently. I really don't think I'm going to regret binning that. ;D
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 15 October 2018, 19:23:16
It's always the case. As soon as you throw something away, you find a need for it. ::)

I had a 35 track 5.25" drive in the loft until recently. I really don't think I'm going to regret binning that. ;D
I'm sure an old copy of Acorn Today will show how to build an interface to plug it into a Beeb-B ;D
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 15 October 2018, 19:24:57
It's always the case. As soon as you throw something away, you find a need for it. ::)

I had a 35 track 5.25" drive in the loft until recently. I really don't think I'm going to regret binning that. ;D
Mind you, I had to go cap in hand to a mate (who hoards old IT junk) for a 2.5" PATA drive not so long back  :-[

You can imagine the abuse I had to take, after all the abuse I've given him over using old shite ;D
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: dave the builder on 15 October 2018, 19:35:18
There is a market for old tech ,get yourself on Ebay TB  ;D
I've a pile of "junk" pc stuff from apricot 386 to IBM tower servers which i need to sort through
one day  ;D
apparently good for gold recovery too
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 October 2018, 19:43:48
It's always the case. As soon as you throw something away, you find a need for it. ::)

I had a 35 track 5.25" drive in the loft until recently. I really don't think I'm going to regret binning that. ;D
I'm sure an old copy of Acorn Today will show how to build an interface to plug it into a Beeb-B ;D

Oh, I achieved that about 30 years ago. The poor old DFS needed to be told in unconventional ways that it only had 35 tracks, though, because it kept assuming it was a 40 track drive. Made for an expensive sounding noise when the head hit the buffers. ;D
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 October 2018, 19:45:05
It's always the case. As soon as you throw something away, you find a need for it. ::)

I had a 35 track 5.25" drive in the loft until recently. I really don't think I'm going to regret binning that. ;D
Mind you, I had to go cap in hand to a mate (who hoards old IT junk) for a 2.5" PATA drive not so long back  :-[

You can imagine the abuse I had to take, after all the abuse I've given him over using old shite ;D

Could have come here and saved your embarrassment. I've got a pile of them in the loft.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Rods2 on 16 October 2018, 01:29:39
Two SSDs arrived this morning. Awaiting 2.5" enclosure to be delivered so I can mirror & install the drive in my Development PC and I will then use the enclosure for my other SSD as a backup drive.

Compared with Ebuyer glacial order processing with standard delivery, I'm impressed with The Box speed of despatch & delivery. :y
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 16 October 2018, 07:39:35
Two SSDs arrived this morning. Awaiting 2.5" enclosure to be delivered so I can mirror & install the drive in my Development PC and I will then use the enclosure for my other SSD as a backup drive.

Compared with Ebuyer glacial order processing with standard delivery, I'm impressed with The Box speed of despatch & delivery. :y

Delivery on mine was good, replacement due within 10 days they say, 3 days to go.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: aaronjb on 16 October 2018, 08:27:36
aaronjb - shame, I binned a box load of SCSI-I drives only a couple of months ago. Massive, at 4.3Gb.  I had an 8" drive on my shelf in the office up until I moved desks. Weight a ton.  No idea of the interface, as it wasn't a standard connector. Came out of some proprietary 1980s Unix box.

Not to worry - the SCSI drive itself will be replaced by a SCSI to SD adapter off the bay of fleas.. need to get a similar adapter to go in the A1200 I just picked up, too.

I appear to have sprouted a new problem ;D buying old junk to hoard ;D
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 October 2018, 12:25:36
I appear to have sprouted a new problem ;D buying old junk to hoard ;D

I've had it for years. ::)

Wait until you start on Tek 'scopes. Think I'm on 7 currently. I need help. :-\
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: zirk on 16 October 2018, 12:49:31
I appear to have sprouted a new problem ;D buying old junk to hoard ;D

I've had it for years. ::)

Wait until you start on Tek 'scopes. Think I'm on 7 currently. I need help. :-\
Good thing about Scopes is its one of the few Tools that you can use One to fix the Other One.  :)
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: aaronjb on 16 October 2018, 13:41:17
Wait until you start on Tek 'scopes. Think I'm on 7 currently. I need help. :-\

I wouldn't mind a nice, relatively compact, modern scope.. but they usually come with an accompanying price tag!
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 October 2018, 14:13:31
Good thing about Scopes is its one of the few Tools that you can use One to fix the Other One.  :)
Precisely. This is what I tell Mrs. KW.  :y
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 October 2018, 14:16:11
Wait until you start on Tek 'scopes. Think I'm on 7 currently. I need help. :-\

I wouldn't mind a nice, relatively compact, modern scope.. but they usually come with an accompanying price tag!

Sounds like you "need" a DSO Quad.

http://wiki.seeedstudio.com/DSO_Quad/ (http://wiki.seeedstudio.com/DSO_Quad/)

Not too expensive and great for using in the footwell of a car, etc. I've even used it to debug my mate's glider engine tacho from the back seat while in flight. (turned out to be a crank sensor issue, of course!)

Not so great if you need a lot of bandwidth, but a must have gadget none the less. :y
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: aaronjb on 16 October 2018, 15:14:22
Wait until you start on Tek 'scopes. Think I'm on 7 currently. I need help. :-\

I wouldn't mind a nice, relatively compact, modern scope.. but they usually come with an accompanying price tag!

Sounds like you "need" a DSO Quad.

http://wiki.seeedstudio.com/DSO_Quad/ (http://wiki.seeedstudio.com/DSO_Quad/)

Not too expensive and great for using in the footwell of a car, etc. I've even used it to debug my mate's glider engine tacho from the back seat while in flight. (turned out to be a crank sensor issue, of course!)

Not so great if you need a lot of bandwidth, but a must have gadget none the less. :y

I've looked at those - they look really good.. in fact, I think you and I might have discussed them previously :y

I have their soldering iron (https://www.seeedstudio.com/Mini-Soldering-Iron-US-Standard-(Shape-BC2)-p-2494.html) which is really impressive, though apparently if you forget the ground strap it has floating AC at the tip, which is rather less impressive! But saved me finding my proper soldering station to desolder a leaking battery backup, last week :y

One last thing.. glider, engine? Surely that's an aeroplane then  :P :D
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: TheBoy on 16 October 2018, 18:09:56
Two SSDs arrived this morning. Awaiting 2.5" enclosure to be delivered so I can mirror & install the drive in my Development PC and I will then use the enclosure for my other SSD as a backup drive.
That's why you need a 3d printer.  Last time I needed a drive size adapter, a quick scan on Thingiverse.com and it was ready an hour later.

But I am a Thingiverse junkie ;D
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 16 October 2018, 18:11:56
Two SSDs arrived this morning. Awaiting 2.5" enclosure to be delivered so I can mirror & install the drive in my Development PC and I will then use the enclosure for my other SSD as a backup drive.

Compared with Ebuyer glacial order processing with standard delivery, I'm impressed with The Box speed of despatch & delivery. :y

Delivery on mine was good, replacement due within 10 days they say, 3 days to go.

Well, according to their web site, they acknowledge receipt of the returned one, and the new one is ready for shipping :o
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 17 October 2018, 09:34:52
Two SSDs arrived this morning. Awaiting 2.5" enclosure to be delivered so I can mirror & install the drive in my Development PC and I will then use the enclosure for my other SSD as a backup drive.

Compared with Ebuyer glacial order processing with standard delivery, I'm impressed with The Box speed of despatch & delivery. :y

Delivery on mine was good, replacement due within 10 days they say, 3 days to go.

Well, according to their web site, they acknowledge receipt of the returned one, and the new one is ready for shipping :o

...and the good news is it's being shipped today.
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 19 October 2018, 08:19:48
Two SSDs arrived this morning. Awaiting 2.5" enclosure to be delivered so I can mirror & install the drive in my Development PC and I will then use the enclosure for my other SSD as a backup drive.

Compared with Ebuyer glacial order processing with standard delivery, I'm impressed with The Box speed of despatch & delivery. :y

Delivery on mine was good, replacement due within 10 days they say, 3 days to go.

Well, according to their web site, they acknowledge receipt of the returned one, and the new one is ready for shipping :o

...and the good news is it's being shipped today.

It arrived this morning :y

Returned was a 250 Gb - replacement is a 500 Gb :o

I'm not going to complain ::)
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: zirk on 19 October 2018, 12:46:16

It arrived this morning :y

Returned was a 250 Gb - replacement is a 500 Gb :o

I'm not going to complain ::)
No, but doesn't exactly expire confidence that the Company knows what its doing.  ::)
Title: Re: Crucial 1 TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6GB/S MX500, was £259.99 now £140.62
Post by: Auto Addict on 19 October 2018, 19:36:20

It arrived this morning :y

Returned was a 250 Gb - replacement is a 500 Gb :o

I'm not going to complain ::)
No, but doesn't exactly expire confidence that the Company knows what its doing.  ::)

At least they got it wrong in the right direction, would have been a bit peeved the other way around.