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Sir Tigger KC

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Re: This will please Opti
« Reply #15 on: 16 February 2021, 11:41:08 »

The question still remains, where are we going to get all the power from? We can only just keep up with demand in a bad winter.

Apparently Texas has power cuts at the moments as all their wind turbines have frozen up.  :o   Ooops!  :D
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Re: This will please Opti
« Reply #16 on: 16 February 2021, 11:55:32 »

An electric car on average can consume as much as your house yearly. We would be dodging though the forest of windmills and could get propelled to a different galaxy ::) ;D
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Re: This will please Opti
« Reply #17 on: 16 February 2021, 19:41:25 »

A bloke near me had a MK1 Leaf for a few years then just pre-Covid he traded it for a new MKII version.I bet he's regretted that idea as the new one has spent more time being taken away by the RAC[and relaced by a Vauxhall Mokka]than it's spent on his drive.
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« Reply #18 on: 16 February 2021, 20:12:59 »

An electric car on average can consume as much as your house yearly. We would be dodging though the forest of windmills and could get propelled to a different galaxy ::) ;D

How about using diesel or petrol stocks to power generators to create electric for cars?
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« Reply #19 on: 16 February 2021, 20:38:37 »

An electric car on average can consume as much as your house yearly. We would be dodging though the forest of windmills and could get propelled to a different galaxy ::) ;D

How about using diesel or petrol stocks to power generators to create electric for cars?
                Good job you’re joking😂
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« Reply #20 on: 16 February 2021, 20:56:50 »

Indeed ,
a nice 20 KVA trailer mount diesel generator towed behind could recharge the batteries  8)
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Re: This will please Opti
« Reply #21 on: 16 February 2021, 22:03:02 »

A bloke near me had a MK1 Leaf for a few years then just pre-Covid he traded it for a new MKII version.I bet he's regretted that idea as the new one has spent more time being taken away by the RAC[and relaced by a Vauxhall Mokka]than it's spent on his drive.



Of course, ICE Renault/Nissans never go wrong and are superb cars in their own right.


I recovered several mk1 Leafs, but only one had an actual fault - it wouldn't charge - the rest had no range. You would be amazed the number of ordinary breakdowns that were miraculously 'cured' with £10 of fuel. That were never the driver's fault.....


Nissan got the Leaf right; although the floorpan is different to accomodate the batteries, the rest of the mecchanical parts are Note, with the electric motor and diff sized and shaped to fit where the engine & gearbox did so that the crash structure was the same.


Toyota did the same their (pointless) hybrids; the first couple of Prius looked different to thr rest of the range, but now the only way of telling that a parked Yaris/Auris/Lexus is a hybrid is by looking at the badge.
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Re: This will please Opti
« Reply #22 on: 17 February 2021, 08:52:54 »


Nissan got the Leaf right; although the floorpan is different to accomodate the batteries, the rest of the mecchanical parts are Note, with the electric motor and diff sized and shaped to fit where the engine & gearbox did so that the crash structure was the same.


Toyota did the same their (pointless) hybrids; the first couple of Prius looked different to thr rest of the range, but now the only way of telling that a parked Yaris/Auris/Lexus is a hybrid is by looking at the badge.

That's easy to do when you have a car which can afford to be just another car all be it with an electric power train.

A major issue is when you need to be more than that, the forces the motors place on the structure can be huge, many times that of an ICE. Plus the battery weight has to be low to get handling, again not really an issue with a default box.
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Re: This will please Opti
« Reply #23 on: 17 February 2021, 10:07:36 »

An electric car on average can consume as much as your house yearly. We would be dodging though the forest of windmills and could get propelled to a different galaxy ::) ;D

How about using diesel or petrol stocks to power generators to create electric for cars?
                Good job you’re joking😂
A bit like this  ::) ::) .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBwcwnKHVJA
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« Reply #24 on: 17 February 2021, 10:11:45 »


Nissan got the Leaf right; although the floorpan is different to accomodate the batteries, the rest of the mecchanical parts are Note, with the electric motor and diff sized and shaped to fit where the engine & gearbox did so that the crash structure was the same.


Toyota did the same their (pointless) hybrids; the first couple of Prius looked different to thr rest of the range, but now the only way of telling that a parked Yaris/Auris/Lexus is a hybrid is by looking at the badge.

That's easy to do when you have a car which can afford to be just another car all be it with an electric power train.

A major issue is when you need to be more than that, the forces the motors place on the structure can be huge, many times that of an ICE. Plus the battery weight has to be low to get handling, again not really an issue with a default box.


I know that it isn't the best way of getting all the benefits of an electric car, but you have to start somewhere. Doing that with proven bits you already have is the way to do that. 


And lets not pretend that electric cars are anything other than an alternative power source, propped up with a lot of unsustainable hype.
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« Reply #25 on: 17 February 2021, 10:41:35 »

A good electric car is designed just as an electric car, there is only one make of these out there and that is Tesla, all the others are adapted platforms (the iPace is close but, its still a D7a platform with heavily modified floor pan), this is changing..............

Electric is the answer for many many reasons (and not just emissions, ADAS, simplicity, lower losses, driveability etc etc) and yes, it might be a case of the pollution is moved elsewhere but, the opportunities are much improved for low carbon power sources to provide the juice.

The real challenge is the energy storage medium, be it chemical or battery  :y

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Re: This will please Opti
« Reply #26 on: 17 February 2021, 13:01:11 »

Not sure how true this is but....... ::)



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Re: This will please Opti
« Reply #27 on: 17 February 2021, 13:11:54 »

 :y :y :y
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« Reply #28 on: 17 February 2021, 13:12:59 »

Probably not far from the truth TBH.  :-\
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« Reply #29 on: 17 February 2021, 15:39:58 »

https://youtu.be/JcJ8me22NVs

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