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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #15 on: 23 July 2018, 17:08:54 »

Normally you should get slightly more outside edge wear. It sounds to me like you have excessive camber at the front.

Most of the alignment machines have wide tolerances for front camber so it gets neglected by alignment shops. It needs to be set for no more than about -1o10' for even tyre wear.

Does this - (minus) mean that wheels should be like A or Like V?
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #16 on: 23 July 2018, 17:37:53 »

Like A. Negative camber meaning leaning in at the top. Chances are yours has too much at the moment .its a common mistake when you have them set up .most unsuspecting places add too much camber and too much toe .
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #17 on: 23 July 2018, 17:56:46 »

In my experience, for what it's worth (which is exactly what you're paying for it)...

1) Too much toe in = kills outside edge of tyre rapidly, but gives fantastic turn in handling on a track.
2) Any toe out = steering doesn't self centre, kills inside edge, 'kin dangerous to drive on a road.
3) Too much negative camber = kills inside edge, but not as rapidly as too much toe out.
4) Too much positive camber = tramlines like crazy, unpredictable handling and very snappy. Would presumably damage the outside edge too.

Personally I like almost zero (vertical) camber - (no more than 5mm in at the top) and just a snifter of toe in so the steering self centres.
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #18 on: 23 July 2018, 19:09:11 »

Agree 100%. And i think these are the preffered omega reccommendations over the standard original gm settings. 95% of omegas that get set up at a 'normal' ! Tyre place will get too much neg camber ( if they even check it ) and way too much toe.
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #19 on: 23 July 2018, 20:20:57 »

As the front suspension is by McPherson struts, camber will vary with load, and should be set up with adults in the front seats, or equivalent weights.
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #20 on: 27 July 2018, 16:35:17 »

Yes, and what I also found was that front bearing have clearance about 2 mm in left and right side of the car, measured distance between tyre and shock. This might increase negative camber and toe out, too. Original idea was just to change shocks, now also springs, wishbones, top mounts, top bearing etc. What is left anymore? Discs and pads are pretty new. I will get a brand new front suspension soon...

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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #21 on: 28 July 2018, 08:29:07 »

Any recommendation where to buy good front bearings, OE quality here is 120 euro/pc.
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #22 on: 29 July 2018, 06:33:59 »

Any recommendation where to buy good front bearings, OE quality here is 120 euro/pc.

How about this? Good ebay link is welcome.
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #23 on: 29 July 2018, 07:13:36 »

ATP probably a good a place as any to start :y
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #24 on: 29 July 2018, 15:37:02 »

OK, thanks, these parts seem to be cheaper and cheaper when Omegas are getting old, wishbone case was a good example. I try from ATP.
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #25 on: 30 July 2018, 15:06:28 »

Just caught sight of your problem. I had inner tyre wear on mine and no amount of so called four wheel tracking would sort it. There is some good stuff on the forum about camber adjustment by slackening off the strut bolts. There are two and one goes through an elongated slot. I pulled the top of the wheel out as far as I could( the adjustment is small but makes a difference) to give the wheel a more upright stance and hence take load off the inner side. I then had the normal geom check at a good tyre specialist. Three years later still no uneven wear.
There are some good knowledgeable guys on here so I am sure someone will comment.
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Re: Front Tires Wear inside Area
« Reply #26 on: 31 July 2018, 11:04:19 »

Yes, I already got good tips here how to proceed. During next front shocks change I renew almost everything in front including wishbones, springs etc + bearings as well and get the 4-wheel adjustment done by a professional keeping in mind what Kevin Wood recommended.
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