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Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« on: 13 February 2015, 10:59:27 »

Has anyone done this? I can't find a How to in the guides so any info would be helpful. :y
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #1 on: 13 February 2015, 11:03:49 »

Its a lot of work as you need to add washers and self levelling.....

Some will say you don't - but you really do if you don't want to blind other road users.
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #2 on: 13 February 2015, 12:47:34 »

Just to clarify the HIDs are only for Low Beam, they still use the Projectors for High Beam.
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #3 on: 13 February 2015, 12:55:53 »

Has anyone done this? I can't find a How to in the guides so any info would be helpful. :y
Easy enough to do Chris
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #4 on: 13 February 2015, 13:38:43 »

Yes, fairly straight forward job - with all the relevant bits, of course, and plenty of time. However, I can only repeat what steve6367 says - you are supposed to have the self-levelling system as well, as you will dazzle other road users. I was momentarily blinded on the drive home from work, down a residential street, very dark, very widely spaced street lamps - only after a couple of blinks and my vision started to make sense of the gloom, to see a pedestrian walking brazenly across the road, staring straight ahead, oblivious to my presence. If we're joking, then ha ha, hit the bugger. Being a tad more serious, I would prefer not to have the guy's serious injuries or worse on my conscience. All because some moron think its ok to leave his main beam on.  >:(

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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #5 on: 13 February 2015, 13:49:15 »

Sounds like too much work for me, as I would prefer not to dazzle other road users. :( :( :(
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« Reply #6 on: 13 February 2015, 14:10:22 »

You need to swap the levelling motors from the original lamps, that way you retain some level control.

Wiring needs the following mod...

Dipped beam pos needs removing from main wiring plug and diverting to the ballast plug pos. Main ground wire needs doubling up, with extra wire connecting to ballast neg.

Job jobbed :y

Obviously headlight washers are also technically required, but, if you can get the parts, should be easy enough to retrofit...
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #7 on: 13 February 2015, 14:16:58 »

Yeah, it's really not that much - and, to think laterally, you could install the levelling sensors on the front and rear wheels and wiring on one day, which can then sit there for any amount of time, until you've got the time free to do the headlamp changeover. As Taxi Al says, you could also treat the pressure washers as a separate job, too. So if it helps, break it down into three jobs.

That said, I've deliberated for a while about converting tp Xenons and I've decided to go down the nightbreaker route, instead.  :)
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« Reply #8 on: 13 February 2015, 15:45:11 »

Yeah, it's really not that much - and, to think laterally, you could install the levelling sensors on the front and rear wheels and wiring on one day, which can then sit there for any amount of time, until you've got the time free to do the headlamp changeover. As Taxi Al says, you could also treat the pressure washers as a separate job, too. So if it helps, break it down into three jobs.

That said, I've deliberated for a while about converting tp Xenons and I've decided to go down the nightbreaker route, instead.  :)
There's a bit more to the auto levelling than a couple of sensors... ::) xenon units also have an ecu.
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #9 on: 13 February 2015, 16:13:49 »

All I was suggesting was to install as many of the parts 'dry' - so do as much as you can without actually unplugging the existing lights. Just might make the whole job that bit more manageable than treating is as one single job, to be done in a day - and if, for whatever reason, you don't finish, then you've got a car that has no working headlights.   :y
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« Reply #10 on: 13 February 2015, 16:42:52 »

My reply was a bit brief... Was waiting on a customer when I typed ::)

Perfectly doable as a 'factory' retrofit but best attempted with a complete spares car :y headlight levelling ecu is a similar size to the engine ecu and lives bolted to the outside of the rh inner wing behind the front indicator :y
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #11 on: 13 February 2015, 16:43:55 »

Thanks for that guys, as I only have one lamp at the moment, I don't think I'll bother. I've got Nightbreakers anyway, and don't do much night driving these days. :y :y :y
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #12 on: 13 February 2015, 16:52:21 »

My reply was a bit brief... Was waiting on a customer when I typed ::)

Perfectly doable as a 'factory' retrofit but best attempted with a complete spares car :y headlight levelling ecu is a similar size to the engine ecu and lives bolted to the outside of the rh inner wing behind the front indicator :y

No probs.  :y Agreed, best to have another up the drive when attempting it. Actually as the V6 nears completion I am in twominds what to do with the Turbno Weasel - MoT runs out in April, and really without being mean it's never going to be a show-winner. Might offer the engine, and strip off some parts, such as the Xenons, maybe. Then let Mr Scrappy man take it. Alternatively if I can get the V6 done before MoT runs out, offer it on here for a couple of hundred as basically a working BMW engine with free car, means no messing with a trailer.

 
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #13 on: 13 February 2015, 16:52:59 »

Thanks for that guys, as I only have one lamp at the moment, I don't think I'll bother. I've got Nightbreakers anyway, and don't do much night driving these days. :y :y :y

So aside from you thinking of upgrading to the Xenons, how do you like the Nightbreakers?  :)
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #14 on: 13 February 2015, 18:47:13 »

Well I do have the 3.2 Elite for night work if pressed, and to be fair the TD with Nightbreakers is fine for the distances I travel. I was foolishly hoping for a Plug and Play option. ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #15 on: 16 February 2015, 12:08:06 »

Well as said there's a sort of nearly plug n play option, in not fitting the sensors etc.. but I think we're the same mindset, rather do it properly and as factory. On the way to work today and opposite me at the junction there's a prat with main beam on. I flashed him, then left mine on to dazzle him back, to no avail, he/she just sat there oblivious. So I then negotiate the junction, and drive up the road with a peppering of green spots in my eyes, able to make rough approximations of where cars are etc.. And that particular street people/cars walk/pull out without looking frequently. So cheers for that mate, after 30 seconds or so I was able to see where I was going again  >:(

Maybe treat it as a summer job - after very light until well after 9pm, you know, and not horrible and cold either? Gives you a while to make sure you have all the bits ready, cleaned up/tested too.
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« Reply #16 on: 16 February 2015, 17:08:19 »

Well as said there's a sort of nearly plug n play option, in not fitting the sensors etc.. but I think we're the same mindset, rather do it properly and as factory. On the way to work today and opposite me at the junction there's a prat with main beam on. I flashed him, then left mine on to dazzle him back, to no avail, he/she just sat there oblivious. So I then negotiate the junction, and drive up the road with a peppering of green spots in my eyes, able to make rough approximations of where cars are etc.. And that particular street people/cars walk/pull out without looking frequently. So cheers for that mate, after 30 seconds or so I was able to see where I was going again  >:(

Maybe treat it as a summer job - after very light until well after 9pm, you know, and not horrible and cold either? Gives you a while to make sure you have all the bits ready, cleaned up/tested too.
And that is precisely what is wrong with people :'(
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #17 on: 17 February 2015, 13:27:51 »

Well in fairness I was trying to alert him/her to the fact their main beam was on! There were no other vehicles in the direct line of my headlamps. And as I saw a van from a sidestreet in the distance turn, so in a moment he would be facing me, I switched them ofk. Also don't forget that the original car driver was in no danger of being dazzled by me - they weren't looking at my headlamps, they were busy on their phone, texting, chatting, doing their makeup, whatever. Totally unaware of their surrounding. That's the killer - inattentiveness.

I've done it, unaware that I have accidentally knocked my stalk forward, only to notice another driver flashing me; And very glad I was that that happened, off the main beam went, and a friendly wave of thanks/apology. In my defence, there was me thinking jealousy, disrespect for other cultures and beliefs greed and an over-commercialised consumer society-wide attitude is what is wrong with people - perhaps it's people flashing other people informing them that their headlamps are on.  ::)
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #18 on: 17 February 2015, 15:34:16 »

Well as said there's a sort of nearly plug n play option, in not fitting the sensors etc.. but I think we're the same mindset, rather do it properly and as factory. On the way to work today and opposite me at the junction there's a prat with main beam on. I flashed him, then left mine on to dazzle him back, to no avail, he/she just sat there oblivious. So I then negotiate the junction, and drive up the road with a peppering of green spots in my eyes, able to make rough approximations of where cars are etc.. And that particular street people/cars walk/pull out without looking frequently. So cheers for that mate, after 30 seconds or so I was able to see where I was going again  >:(

Maybe treat it as a summer job - after very light until well after 9pm, you know, and not horrible and cold either? Gives you a while to make sure you have all the bits ready, cleaned up/tested too.
And that is precisely what is wrong with people :'(
Yep, no point trying to educate the perennially stupid. ::)

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« Reply #19 on: 17 February 2015, 15:53:08 »

Indeed, that's the sort of trying leads stress induced heart attacks and an early grave :'(

Easier just to ignore it and move on imho ;)
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Re: Upgrade MFL from projectors to HIDS
« Reply #20 on: 18 February 2015, 20:01:29 »

Anything other than a full retrofit, complete with automatic levelling and washers, would be irresponsible for OOF to make a guide on. Hence there isn't one. Retrofitting autolevelling would be challenging, and all Omega headlights are poor, including HIDs.

Good bulbs and polish up the lenses until crystal clear Shack :y
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« Reply #21 on: 04 May 2015, 17:22:16 »

Anything other than a full retrofit, complete with automatic levelling and washers, would be irresponsible for OOF to make a guide on. Hence there isn't one. Retrofitting autolevelling would be challenging, and all Omega headlights are poor, including HIDs.

Good bulbs and polish up the lenses until crystal clear Shack
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Resurrecting this old thread, I now have 2 new headlamps with crystal clear lenses. Just waiting for some more Nightbreakers. :y
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