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[Darth Loo-knee]

Up my Nanna's on Sunday Morning, when conversation got around to the Riots plus the youth of today etc
My Nanna thinks that "National Service would do them good. It is hard enough bringing children up with two parents, most of todays children are brought up with one, and so the discipline is difficult and often out of the window. National Service would each them respect as you have to do as your told."

Is she right?
What are the chances of that happening?

[Richie London]

 i wouldnt of thought the armed forces would want to waste there time on todays scumbags, i think it would make them more aggresive when they did there time, they would think they were harder then

[LaserLance]

What are the chances of that happening? :-[NONE cos the liberal limpwristed yoghurt knitters will start bleating it contravenes the poor little lambs "uman rights". If they want riot and fight book them on the 1st herky bird from Brize Norton and fly them to Helmand province

[Gaffers]

Not sure it would work with todays armed forces, its a little more pink and fluffy compared with olde years.....

[Webby the Bear]

hi daz hows it going?

i dont think it would work. say for arguments' sake im 16 and im due to do National Service. So are my mates bob, jim, john, paul, george and ringo 

pun aside...... then i see ishvaq, imran and abdul ''opting out'' due to religious reasons and/or human rights and/or not being ''british''.

....you get my point.......?

[Entwood]

Most military service is far to specialised and technical to entrust to conscripts. In the days of "canon fodder" when a "grunt" just had to carry a rifle and rounds then "National Service" of physical activity and discipline had its place.

No longer applies IMHO

There would also be major problems enforcing discipline ... as when NS existed most folks respected authority to some extent .. again .. that is no longer the case.

Can you imagine the outcry when the first "conscript" got taken around the back of the hanger for a "quiet word" after refusing an order

Won't and shouldn't happen, those who have joined for the right reasons do not deserve to have to put up with the dregs they would have to work with.

[Richie London]

Most military service is far to specialised and technical to entrust to conscripts. In the days of "canon fodder" when a "grunt" just had to carry a rifle and rounds then "National Service" of physical activity and discipline had its place.

No longer applies IMHO

There would also be major problems enforcing discipline ... as when NS existed most folks respected authority to some extent .. again .. that is no longer the case.

Can you imagine the outcry when the first "conscript" got taken around the back of the hanger for a "quiet word" after refusing an order

Won't and shouldn't happen, those who have joined for the right reasons do not deserve to have to put up with the dregs they would have to work with.

i think you have summed it up perfectly mr entwood

[TheBoy]

IF the forces are allowed to enforce the necessary discipline, so sadly missing from this daft 'modern parenting' and schooling, it could have some benefit. But it will never happen.


When the worse that happens to misbehaving brats is 5 mins on a naughty step, well, I'm just the stupid kid from the local comprehensive, but I could see this coming...   :-/

[mantahatch]

But does "national service" mean the armed forces ? I am led to believe in other coutries where it is the norm that it can me doing things for the nation.

I have allway said we have should have attendance centres for people claiming unemplyment benefit. For example a large old office or factory where they have to attend 5 days a week from 8 till 5 to receive their benefit. This would get rid of those false claims and for the others it might be more worthwhile to do a proper job.

Just my useless 2p worth.

[Webby the Bear]

But does "national service" mean the armed forces ? I am led to believe in other coutries where it is the norm that it can me doing things for the nation.

I have allway said we have should have attendance centres for people claiming unemplyment benefit. For example a large old office or factory where they have to attend 5 days a week from 8 till 5 to receive their benefit. This would get rid of those false claims and for the others it might be more worthwhile to do a proper job.

Just my useless 2p worth.

mate, its hardly useless. at least your idea would get these fekkers actually doing something instead of playing play station!!!!!! 

[Webby the Bear]

in addition to your comment mate put them to work for their benefits like litter picking and labouring!!!!!!

[Rods2]

I have allway said we have should have attendance centres for people claiming unemplyment benefit. For example a large old office or factory where they have to attend 5 days a week from 8 till 5 to receive their benefit. This would get rid of those false claims and for the others it might be more worthwhile to do a proper job.


Totally agree with you, except I would make them spend all day every day applying for jobs, until they have got one. 

[Varche]

in addition to your comment mate put them to work for their benefits like litter picking and labouring!!!!!!

Other European countries do exactly that. Can't see it working in Britain. Somewhat lacking in community spirit or Big Society - call it what you will. people would be "ashamed" to be seen clearing ditches, painting the village hall or town bridge. etc

[Vamps]

in addition to your comment mate put them to work for their benefits like litter picking and labouring!!!!!!

I tend to roughly agree with this, indeed as part of a National Service, lots of Jobs need doing...However discipline is a problem and needs overcoming, and also I would argue that if you do not do this and behave in a disrespectful way then you do not get your benefits.......a bit like working really.......

[tunnie]

Could National Service ever be brought back?

Nope!