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[flyer 0712]

I have had around 9....2.2 omegas (desmonds as you call them  )  and the only real problems I had was three with head gasket failure,apart from that realy reliable....I have been looking at a 2003...2.6 omega and wondering if I should have it....I have had a 2.5 and had nothing but bother...so what are the opinions of a 2.6../ 3.2..as the thought of.....cam cover gaskets..oil coolers...self levelling suspension..extra .exhaust sensors.... and other common issues all going wrong coupled with dearer insurance....why do most of you prefer the larger engine motors......apart from the extra power ...what is there to gain 

[Vamps]

I have had around 9....2.2 omegas (desmonds as you call them  )  and the only real problems I had was three with head gasket failure,apart from that realy reliable....I have been looking at a 2003...2.6 omega and wondering if I should have it....I have had a 2.5 and had nothing but bother...so what are the opinions of a 2.6../ 3.2..as the thought of.....cam cover gaskets..oil coolers...self levelling suspension..extra .exhaust sensors.... and other common issues all going wrong coupled with dearer insurance....why do most of you prefer the larger engine motors......apart from the extra power ...what is there to gain 

Nothing unless you want to drive particularly fast, the 2.2 has the same comfort of the bigger engines, just not quite as fast but a bit more economical on fuel, and a lot cheaper for engine repairs than the V6..........

[Diamond Black Geezer]

It's always been the tradition, the straight six Vauxhall, literally since the 1900s... with the passing of the Carlton and Senny, the new generation of all-singing-all-dancing V6 engines carried on that tradition. Nothing more advanced that 'big car, big engine', really.

But you're right - what is the difference? Having all the comfort, space, etc.. but with a smaller engine, bit more economy, and as mentioned a lot less oily bits to go wrong, a third less spark plugs and HT leads, for starters! 

[omega3000]

Insurance for me is more expensive for a 2.2 . I think when you
weigh things up the 2.2 has other related niggles that the v6
does not ... mpg not much in it 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It's always been the tradition, the straight six Vauxhall, literally since the 1900s... with the passing of the Carlton and Senny, the new generation of all-singing-all-dancing V6 engines carried on that tradition. Nothing more advanced that 'big car, big engine', really.

But you're right - what is the difference? Having all the comfort, space, etc.. but with a smaller engine, bit more economy, and as mentioned a lot less oily bits to go wrong, a third less spark plugs and HT leads, for starters! 

The superior V6 facelift does not have HT leads....

The 2.2 is not an Omega. All Omega come with a V6.

[omega3000]

It's always been the tradition, the straight six Vauxhall, literally since the 1900s... with the passing of the Carlton and Senny, the new generation of all-singing-all-dancing V6 engines carried on that tradition. Nothing more advanced that 'big car, big engine', really.

But you're right - what is the difference? Having all the comfort, space, etc.. but with a smaller engine, bit more economy, and as mentioned a lot less oily bits to go wrong, a third less spark plugs and HT leads, for starters! 

The superior V6 facelift does not have HT leads....

The 2.2 is not an Omega. All Omega come with a V6.

No , it has an extortionately priced coil pack x2 

2.2 easier to work on though 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

It's always been the tradition, the straight six Vauxhall, literally since the 1900s... with the passing of the Carlton and Senny, the new generation of all-singing-all-dancing V6 engines carried on that tradition. Nothing more advanced that 'big car, big engine', really.

But you're right - what is the difference? Having all the comfort, space, etc.. but with a smaller engine, bit more economy, and as mentioned a lot less oily bits to go wrong, a third less spark plugs and HT leads, for starters! 

The superior V6 facelift does not have HT leads....

The 2.2 is not an Omega. All Omega come with a V6.

But of course...

Only exception is if it's a prefacelift in black - with three steel wheels and a flat tyre, no HT leads currently fitted, a yellowed header tank and no MoT.. in which case that is definitely the fastestest!! 

[omega3000]

I almost bought a 2.2 sport , immaculate body and interior . Did an insurance quote and was £80 more to insure than the 3.0 elite  Not knocking the 2.2 but from what i hear on here is that the head gaskets are a weak point 

[TheBoy]

Not knocking the 2.2 but from what i hear on here is that the head gaskets are a weak point 

Hmmm. 1998 3.0l V6's seem to suffer HG problems as well.

At least on the K series Rover I had, it only ate one HG.  The bloody bullet has chomped its way through it's 2nd now 

[omega3000]

Not knocking the 2.2 but from what i hear on here is that the head gaskets are a weak point 

Hmmm. 1998 3.0l V6's seem to suffer HG problems as well.

At least on the K series Rover I had, it only ate one HG.  The bloody bullet has chomped its way through it's 2nd now 

I should imagine all those still running water tight have been sorted  HG not a biggie job on either really 

[Steve B]

Not knocking the 2.2 but from what i hear on here is that the head gaskets are a weak point 

Hmmm. 1998 3.0l V6's seem to suffer HG problems as well.

At least on the K series Rover I had, it only ate one HG.  The bloody bullet has chomped its way through it's 2nd now 

MMM Emd sounds like your on borrowed time too 

[omega3000]

Not knocking the 2.2 but from what i hear on here is that the head gaskets are a weak point 

Hmmm. 1998 3.0l V6's seem to suffer HG problems as well.

At least on the K series Rover I had, it only ate one HG.  The bloody bullet has chomped its way through it's 2nd now 

MMM Emd sounds like your on borrowed time too 

 

A lot suspected head gasket on my old 3.0 elite of the same era , i cooked the engine when the rad got blocked but it never affected the HG 

[Steve B]

It's always been the tradition, the straight six Vauxhall, literally since the 1900s... with the passing of the Carlton and Senny, the new generation of all-singing-all-dancing V6 engines carried on that tradition. Nothing more advanced that 'big car, big engine', really.

But you're right - what is the difference? Having all the comfort, space, etc.. but with a smaller engine, bit more economy, and as mentioned a lot less oily bits to go wrong, a third less spark plugs and HT leads, for starters! 

The superior V6 facelift does not have HT leads....

The 2.2 is not an Omega. All Omega come with a V6.

lets face it.The 2.6 is only a wannabe too.

[flyer 0712]

Oh well..appears that because I am a tight old git that i may well stay with the desmond,,,which mr opti.....has an omega badge on it...ha.ha.ha...cheers people.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Reposting a pic I've used on another thread, as it is relevant to this, ie: a smaller engine in a 'big' Vauxhall isn't a bad thing - (unless it's the old man's useless 1.8 in a lardy Insignia-ficant 'SRi'  ) - which does about the same mpg as my Turbo Weasel. He sold me the TD because he wanted a smaller car and more fuel economy  ... I digress... below is another example of alll the 'show' but not much of the 'go'



Love the look of the 50s-70s Vauxhalls. Now thinking of stuff like the Jag XJ with the entry level 2 litre(I think it's a 2l?) etc...