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[rikki_essex]

Evening All, I need to reset the airbag light on the car and i was thinking of buying something off ebay to reset it but my car is a w reg facelift and all of the adverts are saying it will only work with post 2001 car does anyone know what i need to get instead? 

[Vamps]

I stand to be corrected, but having been there iirc it can't be reset, certainly not by anything you buy of ebay, I have a code reader myself, works well enough but could not reset the air bag. I needed to buy a part, but for the life of me I cant remember what the part is called, though I can picture it.......

I am sure someone will be along who can give a better answer, me I sold the car, never fixed the problem......

[4x4]

Airbag ecu

[Vamps]

Airbag ecu

That's the one..........

[rikki_essex]

Ok no problem can vauxhall not reset it with a tech 2. Ive only just bought the car and the only reason the light is on is because they changed the seats but forgot to wait 15 minutes before doing the job.

[Vamps]

Ok no problem can vauxhall not reset it with a tech 2. Ive only just bought the car and the only reason the light is on is because they changed the seats but forgot to wait 15 minutes before doing the job.

Worth a try, you need to get it sorted one way or another as it won't pass an MOT with the light on..............

[Andy B]

I bought a 'cheapo Tech II' with the Hungarian software to talk to my car .......... it reset a couple of airbags, Omega & Astra. 

[Andy B]

Ok no problem can vauxhall not reset it with a tech 2. Ive only just bought the car and the only reason the light is on is because they changed the seats but forgot to wait 15 minutes before doing the job.

If it was that simple, Vauxhall would be able to reset the SRS light. If the seats have been changed, it's likely the wrong seats have been fitted iie early seats into a late car that don't have airbags

[rikki_essex]

is there any way to clear the light then if that is the case

[powerslinky]

is there any way to clear the light then if that is the case

Pretty sure it's Tech 2 only to get light off.      The other option ?    clocks out & remove the bulb. 10 min job

Apparently not an MOT failure if light does not work at all I was told

My previous 2.6 MV6 had this problem after a seat change & I removed the bulb .

saw new owner just yesterday & it has since passed a new MOT with no advisories with bulb still out

[TheBoy]

rikki_essex - you should have popped in on your way back down from collecting it

Bulb removal is highly discouraged - if the light is on (or would be if it had a bulb), the entire SRS system is disabled.

No generic OBDII reader will clear airbags on *any* Omega.  Egay sellers universally talk shite.

[TheBoy]

Most Vauxhall specific readers should be able to either turn it off, or tell you why it can't be.

[powerslinky]

rikki_essex - you should have popped in on your way back down from collecting it

Bulb removal is highly discouraged - if the light is on (or would be if it had a bulb), the entire SRS system is disabled.

No generic OBDII reader will clear airbags on *any* Omega.  Egay sellers universally talk shite.

Bloody hell ! . . .  I didn't realise that TB            Need mine sorting then 

[Andy B]

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No generic OBDII reader will clear airbags on *any* Omega.  Egay sellers universally talk shite.

Unless it's a 'cheapo Tech II' 

[omegod]

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No generic OBDII reader will clear airbags on *any* Omega.  Egay sellers universally talk shite.

Unless it's a 'cheapo Tech II' 

Your just baiting him now,  lol

[05omegav6]

If you can give details of the seats, then might be able to help resolve the problem before you reset it... Perfectly possible to unplug the seats, ignition off and key out, without disconnecting the battery or putting the light on... which suggests a problem

[TheBoy]

....

No generic OBDII reader will clear airbags on *any* Omega.  Egay sellers universally talk shite.

Unless it's a 'cheapo Tech II' 

S'not a generic reader Mr B, is Vauxhall specific...  ...and if you can find an old enough laptop, not a bad bit of kit for the money .

[TheBoy]

If you can give details of the seats, then might be able to help resolve the problem before you reset it... Perfectly possible to unplug the seats, ignition off and key out, without disconnecting the battery or putting the light on... which suggests a problem

It may be as simple as somebody had the ignition on with the seat out/unplugged. Some variants of the SAB6 ECU will keep the light on.

Assuming nobody has messed around swapping seats, the usual suspects are contacter unit in steering, drivers main airbag, or side airbags (MFL/FL).

If someone has swapped seats, hopefully its a case they turned ignition on with them unplugged. Worse case is wrong seats.

[aaronjb]

If you can give details of the seats, then might be able to help resolve the problem before you reset it... Perfectly possible to unplug the seats, ignition off and key out, without disconnecting the battery or putting the light on... which suggests a problem

It may be as simple as somebody had the ignition on with the seat out/unplugged.

Easily done, too.. I set mine off by unplugging the door loom (trying to get the speaker working) and then forgetting it was out and switching the ignition on..  Which is why I own one of those code readers we can't talk about, as well as the MaxiScan

[TheBoy]

If you can give details of the seats, then might be able to help resolve the problem before you reset it... Perfectly possible to unplug the seats, ignition off and key out, without disconnecting the battery or putting the light on... which suggests a problem

It may be as simple as somebody had the ignition on with the seat out/unplugged.

Easily done, too.. I set mine off by unplugging the door loom (trying to get the speaker working) and then forgetting it was out and switching the ignition on..  Which is why I own one of those code readers we can't talk about, as well as the MaxiScan

If the price for (a genuine) one wasn't so unbelievably outrageous, I'd recommend them in a flash (but still recommend its not used for programming).

[05omegav6]

Knew I had read it somewhere

Ok no problem can vauxhall not reset it with a tech 2. Ive only just bought the car and the only reason the light is on is because they changed the seats but forgot to wait 15 minutes before doing the job.

[minifreek]

The cheapo pc software that isnt allowed to be mentioned will reset the light... The ignition more than likely was switched on with the seats out or the wrong seats have been installed without airbags...

The only other way round it is to install an airbag ECU that id from a car that doesnt have the side airbags... but then it may not be compatible with the wiring loom in your Omega... IIRC there are 4 types of airbag ECU...

Depending on the MoT station and how well you know them or how lenient they are.... the airbag HAS to light then extinguish itself and not come back on within 10 seconds... if it doesn't light at all, then it is an instant failure - or should be...

[Broomies Mate]

The cheapo pc software that isnt allowed to be mentioned will reset the light... The ignition more than likely was switched on with the seats out or the wrong seats have been installed without airbags...

The only other way round it is to install an airbag ECU that id from a car that doesnt have the side airbags... but then it may not be compatible with the wiring loom in your Omega... IIRC there are 4 types of airbag ECU...

Depending on the MoT station and how well you know them or how lenient they are.... the airbag HAS to light then extinguish itself and not come back on within 10 seconds... if it doesn't light at all, then it is an instant failure - or should be...

Not since March 2013. 

[Andy B]

Knew I had read it somewhere

Ok no problem can vauxhall not reset it with a tech 2. Ive only just bought the car and the only reason the light is on is because they changed the seats but forgot to wait 15 minutes before doing the job.

But also said that Vauxhall were unable to reset the light 

[05omegav6]

Knew I had read it somewhere

Ok no problem can vauxhall not reset it with a tech 2. Ive only just bought the car and the only reason the light is on is because they changed the seats but forgot to wait 15 minutes before doing the job.

But also said that Vauxhall were unable to reset the light 

Which suggests an actual issue, hence the question regarding old and new seats... Rocket science 101 it isn't 

[TheBoy]

Knew I had read it somewhere

Ok no problem can vauxhall not reset it with a tech 2. Ive only just bought the car and the only reason the light is on is because they changed the seats but forgot to wait 15 minutes before doing the job.

But also said that Vauxhall were unable to reset the light 

Where does it say that?   

[TheBoy]

The only other way round it is to install an airbag ECU that id from a car that doesnt have the side airbags...

How will that help?

[powerslinky]

Knew I had read it somewhere

Ok no problem can vauxhall not reset it with a tech 2. Ive only just bought the car and the only reason the light is on is because they changed the seats but forgot to wait 15 minutes before doing the job.

But also said that Vauxhall were unable to reset the light 

Where does it say that?   

Think someone has read the earlier post wrong  . . . OP is asking  "Can Vauxhall  not reset the airbag light?"   

NOT . . . Vauxhall were unable to reset the airbag light . . .  . Thats how I thought I read it anyway

[05omegav6]

Sentence before the one I highlighted

Looking at Maries previous posts, the seats came from her other/preceeding Omega, but not sure of the spec of that car. This one is an early facelift GLS, and I vaguely remembered summat being said wrt issues wiring them in at the time...

[05omegav6]

The only other way round it is to install an airbag ECU that id from a car that doesnt have the side airbags...

How will that help?

Clearly it won't

It is possible to swap the pretensioners to suit, but only if the seats have side airbags, ie mid to post facelift and vice versa...

Wrote an essay in Omega Help last week about it

[henryd]

The cheapo pc software that isnt allowed to be mentioned will reset the light... The ignition more than likely was switched on with the seats out or the wrong seats have been installed without airbags...

The only other way round it is to install an airbag ECU that id from a car that doesnt have the side airbags... but then it may not be compatible with the wiring loom in your Omega... IIRC there are 4 types of airbag ECU...

Depending on the MoT station and how well you know them or how lenient they are.... the airbag HAS to light then extinguish itself and not come back on within 10 seconds... if it doesn't light at all, then it is an instant failure - or should be...

Not since March 2013. 

Yep,it was dropped at that time but is now back on again, airbag on =fail,airbag light no lighty= fail

[TheBoy]

Do we know if this car has the right seats?

[05omegav6]

Do we know if this car has the right seats?

Might have come from this car...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=121178.15

But they clearly weren't original to it... mismatch of front/rear headrests...

[Andy B]

Knew I had read it somewhere

Ok no problem can vauxhall not reset it with a tech 2. Ive only just bought the car and the only reason the light is on is because they changed the seats but forgot to wait 15 minutes before doing the job.

But also said that Vauxhall were unable to reset the light 

Where does it say that?   

Oops! misread reply #4 ............... 

[tidla]

The cheapo pc software that isnt allowed to be mentioned will reset the light... The ignition more than likely was switched on with the seats out or the wrong seats have been installed without airbags...

The only other way round it is to install an airbag ECU that id from a car that doesnt have the side airbags... but then it may not be compatible with the wiring loom in your Omega... IIRC there are 4 types of airbag ECU...

Depending on the MoT station and how well you know them or how lenient they are.... the airbag HAS to light then extinguish itself and not come back on within 10 seconds... if it doesn't light at all, then it is an instant failure - or should be...

Not since March 2013. 

Yep,it was dropped at that time but is now back on again, airbag on =fail,airbag light no lighty= fail

Bin watching too much of that "take me out" Good show, just get bored once they have jiggled down the steps..

[05omegav6]

Found it...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=106367.msg1352467#msg1352467

Guinney fitted the Elite plumbing and Marie simply swapped from cloth to leather.

If the leather front seats came from the black Mid facelift estate, then they likely have the wrong pretensioners fitted... hence the light not being able to be reset

[The Sheriff]

Found it...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=106367.msg1352467#msg1352467

Guinney fitted the Elite plumbing and Marie simply swapped from cloth to leather.

If the leather front seats came from the black Mid facelift estate, then they likely have the wrong pretensioners fitted... hence the light not being able to be reset

Nice one, Sherlock.

[TheBoy]

If the leather front seats came from the black Mid facelift estate, then they likely have the wrong pretensioners fitted... hence the light not being able to be reset

Nah, pretensioners are the same (pyro)

[05omegav6]

If the leather front seats came from the black Mid facelift estate, then they likely have the wrong pretensioners fitted... hence the light not being able to be reset

Nah, pretensioners are the same (pyro)

Thought early ones were mechanical 

[RobG]

They were, up to the crossover point mid 1997

[TheBoy]

If the leather front seats came from the black Mid facelift estate, then they likely have the wrong pretensioners fitted... hence the light not being able to be reset

Nah, pretensioners are the same (pyro)

Thought early ones were mechanical 

I knew there was a reason I wrote that long guide

As Robg says, mechanical for PFL, pyro for MFL/FL

[05omegav6]

Gotcha There might well be detail differences between mfl and fl...

My other plod came with early MV6 seats bolted in and the factory fitted late GLS seats in the boot minus the pretensioners. A box containing various odds and ends also had two pretensioners loose in it, which had been replaced on the MV6 seats by those from the original seats. So I took these spare pretensioners to be different 

P/N to follow...

[TheBoy]

There might well be detail differences between mfl and fl...

There are cosmetic differences as well, as you say - the rather naff FL Elite leather is less naff looking than the MFL naff leather (equally as naff as PFL)

Obviously, in this discussion, I doubt cosmetics are a factor....

[05omegav6]

Right hand...



Left hand...



And the seats they came from...



Plugs are green with one blue and one brown wire.

[rikki_essex]

sorry ive only just seen all the comments i havnt really found the time to look into it any more as both the kids have been ill over Christmas. I will have to sort it soon as the mot is on the 16th but also been having a bit of trouble with the battery light coming on and wouldn't start the other morning so ive got a few things to sort out.

[rikki_essex]

ive just had a chance to read the codes for the airbag light and its saying the following codes

Total number of fault codes: 2

00035 - Driver Pretensioner Circuit High Resistance
Present

00037 - Passenger Pretensioner Circuit High Resistance
Present
Any idea what my next steps need to be to get it all working again? Thanks in advance Rikki

[TheBoy]

ive just had a chance to read the codes for the airbag light and its saying the following codes

Total number of fault codes: 2

00035 - Driver Pretensioner Circuit High Resistance
Present

00037 - Passenger Pretensioner Circuit High Resistance
Present
Any idea what my next steps need to be to get it all working again? Thanks in advance Rikki

That's suspicious.  Have you changed the seats?

[rikki_essex]

i havnt but i think Marie did who i bought it off

[TheBoy]

i havnt but i think Marie did who i bought it off

Ah 'dangle berries'.

Can you check if seats have side airbags (will be about halfway up rear bit).

[rikki_essex]

Yes they do have airbags in them

[TheBoy]

Did you attempt to reset ecu?

[rikki_essex]

Yes but they came straight up again

[TheBoy]

Check the pretensioners are plugged in, and that they haven't been activated

[rikki_essex]

Sorry for sounding blond but how will I know if they have been set off

[rikki_essex]

I've just had a quick look the only thing that is not connected is a pink connector

[rikki_essex]

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/8dgqkvz55fcro8l/AABtXom7Y3Xy_b2pvBz3soe6a

[powerslinky]

Riki  . . . I have changed a couple of sets of MV6 seats for Elite ones  & there is a problem that occurs   with the yellow connector on passenger side . This is only used on Elites for the "child seat " facility & should not be plugged in when putting Elite seats into other models  AFAIK.

 On both the MV6's I have  put Elite seats into this yellow connctor block was just taped up below the seat . The first one I changed I connected this yellow block connector & the  airbag light came on  . . . second one I did I left it unconnected & all is ok  Presume it will be the same on the GLS or any other model bar the Elite.
But in my cases I was swapping FL  into FL  not sure that is the case with yours or the yellow connector will even be laying below the seat on the GLS .Hope this makes sense  & may help

EDIT:  I think RobG did post up a picture of this yellow connector  . . . but had a quick look & could not find it 

[Steve B]

 

[powerslinky]

 

Yellow block connector for child seat senor will not be in that picture  . .  .  as it is only on the passenger side

[rikki_essex]

Ok thankyou very much for that I'll check it in the morning. Should that pink connector be plugged in anywhere. Also Al I forgot I asked you for the cruise control stalk have you still got it?

[rikki_essex]

https://photos-1.dropbox.com/t/2/AABXOIjTL2NZcChCyjtfBCecncQZC5Cynm9SqYEFLnaC9g/12/318884239/jpeg/1024x768/3/1421604000/0/2/20150118_154842.jpg/CI-Th5gBIAMgAiABKAIoAQ/AQuUrRd4ccLU1FHP3LeFxS_pigVvnybUvVdh1bAdDRs

[05omegav6]

Sorry for sounding blond but how will I know if they have been set off

Look at the buckle. On the side facing the seat you'll notice a slot about 1.5" long across the face of the buckle...
When the pretensioners have been triggered a yellowy orange tab appears in this slot. Can't miss it

Should add, if you're wearing the belt when they fire you'll probably have a cracked rib and a really impressive bruise...

[powerslinky]

Ok thankyou very much for that I'll check it in the morning. Should that pink connector be plugged in anywhere. Also Al I forgot I asked you for the cruise control stalk have you still got it?

Yep !

[rikki_essex]

Would it be possible to pick it up in the next week or so my best mate lives in Eastwood and I should be popping over to see him this week

[RobG]

I've just had a quick look the only thing that is not connected is a pink connector

Normally for the pre-tensioners

[rikki_essex]

Thanks Rob but the pink conector seems to be coming from the front of the car rather than the pretensioners and I couldn't really see where it shouled be plugged in

[powerslinky]

Thanks Rob but the pink conector seems to be coming from the front of the car rather than the pretensioners and I couldn't really see where it shouled be plugged in

Rikki, if you want to ,when you come over in mid week we can compare whats plugged in where to my my MV6 with elite seats fitted 

[rikki_essex]

Ok the would be great thanks Al

[TheBoy]

The pink plug should be plugged in, so looks like you've found your problem

[rikki_essex]

Ok good stuff now I just have to find where's it's meant to be plugged in

[05omegav6]

The pink plug should be plugged in, so looks like you've found your problem

Shouldn't it be clipped to the main connected block?

[TheBoy]

The pink plug should be plugged in, so looks like you've found your problem

Shouldn't it be clipped to the main connected block?

The one from the seat should be, and the one from the cabin loom near the sill

[05omegav6]

Gotcha