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PAPERCLIP TEST
« on: 31 July 2006, 19:59:29 »

I am just about to try yhe paperclip test. Laidback says its best done with engine running. Do I start the engine and then short the pins OR short the pins and then start the engine

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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #1 on: 31 July 2006, 20:19:20 »

Codes are:

12 Diagnotic startup

31 Crank sensor--to be expected as engine not running

16 Knock Sensor 1

What do I need to do??? Is it just the sensor as I always use good fuel.
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #2 on: 31 July 2006, 20:29:11 »

Do you loose the 31 when engine running? (short out pins, and start)
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #3 on: 31 July 2006, 20:32:40 »

Dont know--I'll go and try
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #4 on: 31 July 2006, 20:35:46 »

Yes, just 12 and 16
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #5 on: 31 July 2006, 20:57:29 »

Hi
What diagnostic plug are we playing with here????
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #6 on: 31 July 2006, 21:06:48 »

The OBD socket in the fusebox...
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #7 on: 31 July 2006, 21:08:05 »

Sounds like knock sensor is knackered or unplugged.  Someone will be able to tell you which knock sensor it is (v6 has 2)
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #8 on: 31 July 2006, 21:08:19 »

« Last Edit: 31 July 2006, 21:09:01 by STMO123 »
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #9 on: 31 July 2006, 21:11:02 »

Now I return to the question I asked last night, is it OK to drive in this condition without any major damage?(I HAVE to go on holiday, I am Knackered)
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #10 on: 31 July 2006, 21:13:50 »

Not entirely sure - it may keep retarding the ignition on that bank. Though I doubt it would keep retarding until it does damage, I couldn't say for certain.

Have you done any work recently (ie, is it possible its been left unplugged, or wiring caught somewhere)
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #11 on: 31 July 2006, 21:14:55 »

Is it 16 pin?? and what pins do you short??? A & B ??

Can anyone confirm which system?   Bosch and Simtec MPi?
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #12 on: 31 July 2006, 21:17:49 »

No,nothing that would interfere with a sensor.

Can one the experts tell me where No.1 knock sensor is located and if it is a reasonably easy job to change?
Are these thingies just plug'n'play kind of thingies or what?
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #13 on: 31 July 2006, 21:18:15 »

Read the thread linked to above...

v6 is motronic
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Re: PAPERCLIP TEST
« Reply #14 on: 31 July 2006, 21:18:45 »

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Is it 16 pin?? and what pins do you short??? A & B ??

Can anyone confirm which system?   Bosch and Simtec MPi?

Yours is a later 2.2, dont think it would work
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