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General Car Chat / Re: MOT success
« on: 15 May 2019, 13:10:50 »
Yay, another one lives for another year! Well done; it must feel good. 
Ron.
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Car Parts, bits For Sale & Wanted / Re: Even more f/s
« on: 11 May 2019, 17:39:41 »
Hi BG. Could I have the radio cage bundle please?
Ron.
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Omega General Help / Re: I want to pay someone.......
« on: 11 May 2019, 14:34:45 »
James, what goes around, comes around and you are now reaping the reward for your helping so many of us in the past, including me.
I would glady help you without payment if I had the appropriate skills so to do.
Good luck in getting sorted.
Ron.
I would glady help you without payment if I had the appropriate skills so to do.
Good luck in getting sorted.
Ron.
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General Discussion Area / Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC......
« on: 10 May 2019, 21:05:04 »
GROAN!!!
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General Discussion Area / Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC......
« on: 10 May 2019, 20:50:28 »
Apparently, "blind" has to be "unsighted" now!
Ron.
Ron.
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General Discussion Area / Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC......
« on: 10 May 2019, 18:35:46 »
I am amazed that they would let an american negro into the royal family,
Ron.
Ron.
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General Discussion Area / Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC......
« on: 09 May 2019, 16:25:41 »
Should we get a room?
Seriously though, I did read an earlier post of yours concerning cyclists and although I am not enamoured of their misbehaviour on the roads and pavements, I do not advocate the death penalty - merely that they be dealt with accordingly.
Ron.
Seriously though, I did read an earlier post of yours concerning cyclists and although I am not enamoured of their misbehaviour on the roads and pavements, I do not advocate the death penalty - merely that they be dealt with accordingly.
Ron.
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General Discussion Area / Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC......
« on: 09 May 2019, 14:00:53 »He has always been a class 1 idiot, but in this country, which supposedly has freedom of speech, he should not be pilloried for saying stupid/controversial things; others equally have the right to respond in their own way - and they did.I agree, Ron, to a point. But you could also say that the people criticising him have their right to do that, and the BBC have the right to sack someone for what they consider to be gross misconduct. Like most things, it works both ways.
As Voltaire was (wrongly) said to proclaim, "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it".
Ron.
'Rights' are subjective and, often, one persons rights can be trumped by another person's rights. i.e. The Sussex's rights to leave hospital with their newborn without people posting offensive tweets.
They are strongly in the public eye/domain and in a highly privileged position, so hardly a level playing field. Not to defend Baker, but there were bigger guns aimed at him; did he really have to lose his job?
Ron.
Freedom of speech does not equate to freedom to insult. It is a rare day I agree with STEMO but he is right when he says that one's 'right' goes both ways regardless of whether you are in the public eye or not (and whether or not it is through your own choosing). Otherwise you could say that my right to drive a motor vehicle supercedes everyone else's right to being safe on the road, which is clearly pish.
The quote which you mention was actually made by someone else to describe Voltaire's views on freedom of speech, not by Voltaire himself. Additionally, the context of said quote was very different from this situation. Voltaire was against aristocratic authority and how it often suppressed freedom of speech, i.e. state-level suppression of rights and not freedom to say what you like even if it erodes other people's rights to not be subjected to offense. Voltaire himself was a proponent of a constitutional monarchy which protects the rights of the individual.
I feel the use of this quote in this context is very misplaced.
Read me properly: I did say wrongly attributed to Voltaire - it was actually Beatrice Hall.
I also conceded that "rights" go both ways, even though too many claim spurious rights nowadays.
Sorry Gaffers, no offence intended, but your motoring analogy is a specious one and irrelevant. But I still love you!
Ron.
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General Discussion Area / Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC......
« on: 09 May 2019, 13:52:16 »I am not defending or chastising anyone, Ron. Nowadays, the world works in a way which is alien to me, so I just get on with my life and let others get on with theirs. Some of the things my PC headteacher wife comes out with make me either want to laugh out loud or cry. The other day I used the term 'Deaf and dumb'. I was told that is a very offensive term and the correct one is 'Deaf and mute'.He has always been a class 1 idiot, but in this country, which supposedly has freedom of speech, he should not be pilloried for saying stupid/controversial things; others equally have the right to respond in their own way - and they did.I agree, Ron, to a point. But you could also say that the people criticising him have their right to do that, and the BBC have the right to sack someone for what they consider to be gross misconduct. Like most things, it works both ways.
As Voltaire was (wrongly) said to proclaim, "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it".
Ron.
'Rights' are subjective and, often, one persons rights can be trumped by another person's rights. i.e. The Sussex's rights to leave hospital with their newborn without people posting offensive tweets.
They are strongly in the public eye/domain and in a highly privileged position, so hardly a level playing field. Not to defend Baker, but there were bigger guns aimed at him; did he really have to lose his job?
Ron.
Yeah.........I'd show you offensive if I didn't just want a quiet life.
Ain't dat de troof! The inmates seem to have taken over the asylum. I would also like to ignore all the craziness of the snowflakes and let it all wash over me, but there is simply too much of it - and the humour has gone out of the world.....
Ron.
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General Discussion Area / Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC......
« on: 09 May 2019, 13:29:14 »He has always been a class 1 idiot, but in this country, which supposedly has freedom of speech, he should not be pilloried for saying stupid/controversial things; others equally have the right to respond in their own way - and they did.I agree, Ron, to a point. But you could also say that the people criticising him have their right to do that, and the BBC have the right to sack someone for what they consider to be gross misconduct. Like most things, it works both ways.
As Voltaire was (wrongly) said to proclaim, "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it".
Ron.
'Rights' are subjective and, often, one persons rights can be trumped by another person's rights. i.e. The Sussex's rights to leave hospital with their newborn without people posting offensive tweets.
They are strongly in the public eye/domain and in a highly privileged position, so hardly a level playing field. Not to defend Baker, but there were bigger guns aimed at him; did he really have to lose his job?
Ron.
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General Discussion Area / Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC......
« on: 09 May 2019, 12:53:21 »
He has always been a class 1 idiot, but in this country, which supposedly has freedom of speech, he should not be pilloried for saying stupid/controversial things; others equally have the right to respond in their own way - and they did.
As Voltaire was (wrongly) said to proclaim, "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it".
Ron.
As Voltaire was (wrongly) said to proclaim, "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it".
Ron.
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General Discussion Area / Re: 20 mph!
« on: 09 May 2019, 09:28:11 »
Clearly another way of increasing revenue safety. When will children learn that roads are not playgrounds?
Ron.
Ron.
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General Discussion Area / Re: Scotland introducing 20p refund scheme
« on: 08 May 2019, 19:27:39 »Maybe because of the adoption of plastic bottles, which cannot be sterilised and re-used? Ask Lizzie.....
Ron.
You're quite bright for somebody from Essex.
I'll have you know that I am NOT from Essex - I'm a true Londoner, from back in the days when it belonged to Londoners and not the shitty incomers that get there now.
Ron.