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Title: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 May 2019, 14:30:42
There has been much chit chat in the media and social media that Theresa May is Britain's worst ever Prime Minister.  ::) But is she?  ???

In a litany of bad Prime Ministers the competition for the title of worst PM is hot!  ::)  So I thought I'd start a poll to see what the OOferati think.  :) 

Here's the list going back to Thatcher and what I see as their 'legacies' to the country.  ;)

Margaret Thatcher: Still widely despised by many for the Poll Tax and the de-industrialisation of many parts of the country.

John Major: Maastricht, the ERM debacle, Black Wednesday and the knock on effects that caused the recession of the early 1990's.

Tony Blair: Iraq, devolution, the botched reforms of the House of Lords and mass immigration.

Gordon Brown: Scuttling in the back door to sign the Lisbon Treaty and avoiding the publicity because it was so controversial at home, the huge budget deficit he left at the end of his term caused not only because of the financial crisis, but because of the bad management of the economy and the unsustainable levels of public spending while he was Chancellor and PM.

David Cameron: Libya, austerity and BREXIT.

Theresa May: Threw away her majority in an unnecessary General Election with a really bad campaign and the appalling mess she has made of BREXIT.

These 'legacies' are not necessarily my opinion and are not exhaustive, so feel free to add!  :y
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: biggriffin on 05 May 2019, 15:45:30
Mrs Thatcher was of her time, and the country need her, biggest mistake was the poll tax. Since then all been spineless and foooking useless, this country needs a strong single-minded person to stand up for the country and it's moral code, Thatcher I think did this, And it's what's needed again, A leadership that will stand up against Europe tell them this is the deal, and to sort out all the wet snowflakes we have trying to ruin this country even more...  Thinks maybe this TB bloke might be worth voting for  :y
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 May 2019, 15:52:04
Such a motley choice I may need to take the reins to make Britain great again. :)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 May 2019, 16:41:24
Only one stands out... His predecessor was a treasonous slimey nuct, but my choice funded that behavior and then spectacularly shot himself in the head by completely underestimating the scale of his own clusteropps  ;D

The current incumbent is no achiever but apart from the whole Brexit debacle, again not a situation she should have voluntarily walked into, she's probably on a par with John Major... ie somewhat unimaginative which isn't a good trait for taking a strong lead when the current issues warrant it.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: TheBoy on 05 May 2019, 17:10:11
I know the eurosceptics will say the current PM, but likely based on a blinkered hell-bent must-leave-at-all-costs view.  As much as I dislike her, I don't think anyone could have done significantly better, and certainly no current UK politician.

But Brown wins my vote - I know his hands were tied by the likes of the Rothschild family, but as chancellor and PM, he right royally screw us all.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Bigron on 05 May 2019, 18:29:48
Mrs Thatcher was of her time, and the country need her, biggest mistake was the poll tax. Since then all been spineless and foooking useless, this country needs a strong single-minded person to stand up for the country and it's moral code, Thatcher I think did this, And it's what's needed again, A leadership that will stand up against Europe tell them this is the deal, and to sort out all the wet snowflakes we have trying to ruin this country even more...  Thinks maybe this TB bloke might be worth voting for  :y

BG, I have yet to hear a sensible, reasoned argument against the Poll Tax. As I understand it, one earner, one tax/rates bill.
Those that mainly objected were those who lived in (council?) houses with multiple wage earners yet only paid the same amount as a lone pensioner, using minimal services.

Ron.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 May 2019, 19:22:37
Close call as to whether it is Brown or B.Liar IMHO. :-\

That's not to say the rest are shining examples, but up against that pair... ::)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Varche on 05 May 2019, 19:39:22
I will say Brown. Close run thing and we haven't had the full horror of May yet as she is still at the reins.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: biggriffin on 05 May 2019, 20:12:41
Mrs Thatcher was of her time, and the country need her, biggest mistake was the poll tax. Since then all been spineless and foooking useless, this country needs a strong single-minded person to stand up for the country and it's moral code, Thatcher I think did this, And it's what's needed again, A leadership that will stand up against Europe tell them this is the deal, and to sort out all the wet snowflakes we have trying to ruin this country even more...  Thinks maybe this TB bloke might be worth voting for  :y

BG, I have yet to hear a sensible, reasoned argument against the Poll Tax. As I understand it, one earner, one tax/rates bill.
Those that mainly objected were those who lived in (council?) houses with multiple wage earners yet only paid the same amount as a lone pensioner, using minimal services.

Ron.


The poll tax and council tax are both wrong, all they are is efficient ways of raising tax indirectly, hence income tax is cut yet council tax goes up, look at all the indirect tax we pay,   Police-fire-frontline service should be paid from Central government, not. Piss pot power crazed local eejits.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Bigron on 05 May 2019, 20:19:07
Yep, we motorists know all about indirect (stealth) taxation!!! >:(

Ron.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 May 2019, 20:33:39
Blair. It seemed to me that he set out to do as much damage as he possibly could to his own country, and was extremely successful at doing so.
This country will never recover from the damage he did to it.
Brown doesn't really get a look in. As Chancellor he was the worst of modern times, but as PM he was just out of his depth and didn't last very long.
May is an utter disaster ,so far out of her depth it would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. The Tory party had the chance to ditch her last December, but although the back benches voted to get rid of her, those on the payroll voted for their own careers above the good of the country, and should never ever be forgiven for it.
The only one on the list who deserved to hold the office was Thatcher. Love her or loathe her, she loved this country, believed in its potential and created the conditions for it to realise its potential.
The most effective politician of my lifetime. The second most effective- love him or loathe him -  would be Farage.


Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Bigron on 05 May 2019, 21:34:16
 :y :y :y
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Andy B on 05 May 2019, 21:38:37
I vote MigV6 for PM .....  ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 May 2019, 23:37:06
The most effective politician of my lifetime. The second most effective- love him or loathe him -  would be Farage.

PM Farage is not an unrealistic possibility IMO.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 May 2019, 23:48:39
You can never say never. Someone who predicted president Trump 10 years ago would probably have been locked away in a padded cell.
It would take the complete implosion of the Tory party and probably the Labour party too. Neither of those things is beyond the bounds of possibility currently.
They are both doing a pretty good job of tearing themselves apart. The next 5 years or so could be an  interesting time in UK politics.


Andy, I accept your nomination. Im getting bored doing night time security.  :y ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Raeturbo on 05 May 2019, 23:49:38
I hope Farage gets a crack at it.. can’t be any worse than the shower of s#it we just chose from🤞
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 May 2019, 00:09:15
I hope Farage gets a crack at it.. can’t be any worse than the shower of s#it we just chose from🤞

Well if May and Corbyn stitch up this customs union plan and force the Withdrawal Agreement through Parliament, I think it could happen once it sinks in with the general public that the bastards have delivered up the country as an effective province to the EU.  >:(
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Keith ABS on 06 May 2019, 06:40:49
 Blair all day long
Him, his awful wife and brown should be had up for treason IMO for what they did to this country
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: biggriffin on 06 May 2019, 07:42:32
Blair all day long
Him, his awful wife and brown should be had up for treason IMO for what they did to this country

Not saying like you know.
But when that blurt bloke signed us up to that human rights thingy, wasn't his wife a barista, and hasn't she since made shed loads of dosh, looking to defend scally scumbags who have broken the law, and dubious cases against hmg.  A serving PM wouldn't try to advance himself or his wife, financially would he.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: TheBoy on 06 May 2019, 10:32:22
Mrs Thatcher was of her time, and the country need her, biggest mistake was the poll tax. Since then all been spineless and foooking useless, this country needs a strong single-minded person to stand up for the country and it's moral code, Thatcher I think did this, And it's what's needed again, A leadership that will stand up against Europe tell them this is the deal, and to sort out all the wet snowflakes we have trying to ruin this country even more...  Thinks maybe this TB bloke might be worth voting for  :y

BG, I have yet to hear a sensible, reasoned argument against the Poll Tax. As I understand it, one earner, one tax/rates bill.
Those that mainly objected were those who lived in (council?) houses with multiple wage earners yet only paid the same amount as a lone pensioner, using minimal services.

Ron.
I do have to agree, it is the fairest way.  Not withstanding the complete incompetence of local councils.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Raeturbo on 06 May 2019, 10:49:48
Blair all day long
Him, his awful wife and brown should be had up for treason IMO for what they did to this country

Not saying like you know.
But when that blurt bloke signed us up to that human rights thingy, wasn't his wife a barista, and hasn't she since made shed loads of dosh, looking to defend scally scumbags who have broken the law, and dubious cases against hmg.  A serving PM wouldn't try to advance himself or his wife, financially would he.
               A sly scheming shonky at best.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: STEMO on 06 May 2019, 11:36:08
Blair all day long
Him, his awful wife and brown should be had up for treason IMO for what they did to this country

Not saying like you know.
But when that blurt bloke signed us up to that human rights thingy, wasn't his wife a barista, and hasn't she since made shed loads of dosh, looking to defend scally scumbags who have broken the law, and dubious cases against hmg.  A serving PM wouldn't try to advance himself or his wife, financially would he.
Tony's wife made coffee for all the scumbags? That's dedication.  ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 May 2019, 12:34:33
Blair. It seemed to me that he set out to do as much damage as he possibly could to his own country, and was extremely successful at doing so.
This country will never recover from the damage he did to it.
Brown doesn't really get a look in. As Chancellor he was the worst of modern times, but as PM he was just out of his depth and didn't last very long.
May is an utter disaster ,so far out of her depth it would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. The Tory party had the chance to ditch her last December, but although the back benches voted to get rid of her, those on the payroll voted for their own careers above the good of the country, and should never ever be forgiven for it.
The only one on the list who deserved to hold the office was Thatcher. Love her or loathe her, she loved this country, believed in its potential and created the conditions for it to realise its potential.
The most effective politician of my lifetime. The second most effective- love him or loathe him -  would be Farage.

Not a great fan Blair but he did win three elections all with an overall majority.

The opposition must have been piss poor. ;)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 May 2019, 13:23:54
Blair. It seemed to me that he set out to do as much damage as he possibly could to his own country, and was extremely successful at doing so.
This country will never recover from the damage he did to it.
Brown doesn't really get a look in. As Chancellor he was the worst of modern times, but as PM he was just out of his depth and didn't last very long.
May is an utter disaster ,so far out of her depth it would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. The Tory party had the chance to ditch her last December, but although the back benches voted to get rid of her, those on the payroll voted for their own careers above the good of the country, and should never ever be forgiven for it.
The only one on the list who deserved to hold the office was Thatcher. Love her or loathe her, she loved this country, believed in its potential and created the conditions for it to realise its potential.
The most effective politician of my lifetime. The second most effective- love him or loathe him -  would be Farage.

Not a great fan Blair but he did win three elections all with an overall majority.

The opposition must have been piss poor. ;)

Yes, how Blair won the 2005 election after Iraq and all the shenanigans that led up to it I'll never know.....
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 06 May 2019, 13:27:23
He was a superb politician, no denying that. So were Hitler, Stalin, Lenin etc.....
And yes, the opposition was piss poor. The Tory party completely lost its way early in Thatchers third term. It has never recovered and it must be very doubtful that it ever will.
Labour is in at least as much trouble. It is now run by what used to be the Socialist Workers party (the left wing equivalent of the BNP).
It shouldn't be possible for them to win an election from the extremes, but all the rules have pretty much disappeared in recent times, so who knows.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 06 May 2019, 13:33:07
Blair was a conman who was good at telling people what they wanted to hear, then lying his way out it when his promises failed to materialise. Most politicians do this of course but he took it to a whole new level, and made an art form out of it. He was a British Bill Clinton.
He also had the advantage of a mostly tame media, and for those who weren't tame he had Alistair Campbell to terrorise them into submission.
I have always thought of Campbell as something close to evil, despite his often friendly persona.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 May 2019, 16:56:46
Blair was a conman who was good at telling people what they wanted to hear, then lying his way out it when his promises failed to materialise. Most politicians do this of course but he took it to a whole new level, and made an art form out of it. He was a British Bill Clinton.
He also had the advantage of a mostly tame media, and for those who weren't tame he had Alistair Campbell to terrorise them into submission.
I have always thought of Campbell as something close to evil, despite his often friendly persona.

Blair was the British Clinton?

I don't think he shot his load on Monica's dress though...... :)

Perhaps he did..... :)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 May 2019, 17:43:22
Blair was a conman who was good at telling people what they wanted to hear, then lying his way out it when his promises failed to materialise. Most politicians do this of course but he took it to a whole new level, and made an art form out of it. He was a British Bill Clinton.
He also had the advantage of a mostly tame media, and for those who weren't tame he had Alistair Campbell to terrorise them into submission.
I have always thought of Campbell as something close to evil, despite his often friendly persona.

Blair was the British Clinton?

I don't think he shot his load on Monica's dress though...... :)

Perhaps he did..... :)

He probably had his own 'Monica'  ;)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 May 2019, 18:42:00
Blair was a conman who was good at telling people what they wanted to hear, then lying his way out it when his promises failed to materialise. Most politicians do this of course but he took it to a whole new level, and made an art form out of it. He was a British Bill Clinton.
He also had the advantage of a mostly tame media, and for those who weren't tame he had Alistair Campbell to terrorise them into submission.
I have always thought of Campbell as something close to evil, despite his often friendly persona.

Blair was the British Clinton?

I don't think he shot his load on Monica's dress though...... :)

Perhaps he did..... :)

He probably had his own 'Monica'  ;)


The ravishing Claire Short perhaps.... ;)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Raeturbo on 06 May 2019, 21:47:39
Diane Abbot perhaps? She’s been around ::)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Auto Addict on 07 May 2019, 08:07:48
Blair's greatest success was to make himself a multi millionaire.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Gaffers on 07 May 2019, 08:59:32
B.Liar every time.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 May 2019, 11:18:33
B.Liar, he did more damage to the NHS through the private finance initiatives than anybody else ever, the burden it has placed on trusts is huge (if your going to borrow wads of cash, spend it on capital investments such as hospitals, schools etc....)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 May 2019, 13:21:40
B.Liar, he did more damage to the NHS through the private finance initiatives than anybody else ever, the burden it has placed on trusts is huge (if your going to borrow wads of cash, spend it on capital investments such as hospitals, schools etc....)
A fact that seems to be lost on everyone complaining about austerity cuts...

If GB could add, B.Liar might not have got away with so much...
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 May 2019, 14:40:22
You can never say never. Someone who predicted president Trump 10 years ago would probably have been locked away in a padded cell.
It would take the complete implosion of the Tory party and probably the Labour party too. Neither of those things is beyond the bounds of possibility currently.
They are both doing a pretty good job of tearing themselves apart. The next 5 years or so could be an  interesting time in UK politics.


Andy, I accept your nomination. Im getting bored doing night time security.  :y ;D

If you held the reins I wager our democracy would become a dictatorship very quickly. :D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 May 2019, 14:57:37
No not at all. I would remove the vote from under 30,s as they are unlikely to have a clue what they are talking about. I would remove the vote from anyone who hasn't paid at least three consecutive years income tax before each particular election. If they don't regularly contribute to  the public purse, they shouldn't have any say in how it is spent.
I would abolish most Govt. departments and scale down all the others apart from the M.O.D.
The only people allowed to work at the M.O.D. would be ex forces personnel.
The NHS would be started again from scratch.
I would investigate people currently and recently involved in politics and public life, and have many of them hung for treason.
I would make TB justice minister, but with some restraint on his culling powers as he is a very angry man and I am a very reasonable one.
Then, I would carry on with our representative democracy in the mother of all Parliaments.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 May 2019, 15:11:14
No not at all. I would remove the vote from under 30,s as they are unlikely to have a clue what they are talking about. I would remove the vote from anyone who hasn't paid at least three consecutive years income tax before each particular election. If they don't regularly contribute to  the public purse, they shouldn't have any say in how it is spent.
I would abolish most Govt. departments and scale down all the others apart from the M.O.D.
The only people allowed to work at the M.O.D. would be ex forces personnel.
The NHS would be started again from scratch.
I would investigate people currently and recently involved in politics and public life, and have many of them hung for treason.
I would make TB justice minister, but with some restraint on his culling powers as he is a very angry man and I am a very reasonable one.
Then, I would carry on with our representative democracy in the mother of all Parliaments.

Thank you for putting my mind at ease...... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 May 2019, 16:04:52
I would make TB justice minister, but with some restraint on his culling powers as he is a very angry man and I am a very reasonable one.

It was demonstrated yesterday that he can be passivated by fairy cakes with pink icing on them, however. Very much a man in touch with his feminine side.  :y
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: zirk on 07 May 2019, 16:30:30
I know the eurosceptics will say the current PM, but likely based on a blinkered hell-bent must-leave-at-all-costs view.  As much as I dislike her, I don't think anyone could have done significantly better, and certainly no current UK politician.

But Brown wins my vote - I know his hands were tied by the likes of the Rothschild family, but as chancellor and PM, he right royally screw us all.
I was in a Little Chef having Brealfast when He was chancellor, the one on the A?? something from the the M1 into Dunstable, the place was empty except a Chap and his Kids, yes it was Brown taking the Nippers out for a cheap meal.

After He left, I had to ask the Waiter the Question, Did He leave a Tip?, No was the reply, Tight Git.  ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: TheBoy on 07 May 2019, 17:43:49
It shouldn't be possible for them to win an election from the extremes, but all the rules have pretty much disappeared in recent times, so who knows.
The last tory whitewash was because they stole the Farage brainwashed. The last election Labour did well be making unrealistic promises.  Its always been the case, but getting worse in the soundbite and arsebook era.

The British public are stupid, short memories, and selfish. But mostly stupid.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 May 2019, 18:28:28
No not at all. I would remove the vote from under 30,s as they are unlikely to have a clue what they are talking about. I would remove the vote from anyone who hasn't paid at least three consecutive years income tax before each particular election. If they don't regularly contribute to  the public purse, they shouldn't have any say in how it is spent.
I would abolish most Govt. departments and scale down all the others apart from the M.O.D.
The only people allowed to work at the M.O.D. would be ex forces personnel.
The NHS would be started again from scratch.
I would investigate people currently and recently involved in politics and public life, and have many of them hung for treason.
I would make TB justice minister, but with some restraint on his culling powers as he is a very angry man and I am a very reasonable one.
Then, I would carry on with our representative democracy in the mother of all Parliaments.

Thank you for putting my mind at ease...... ::) ::)

I nearly forgot. Anyone who proposes any lefty/ liberal / socialist ideas which involve spending more money (as they always do) would only be allowed to propose it, if they personally had possession of the money to pay for it. Otherwise, they would be directed to TB,s department to be culled.
Small state, small govt, big opportunities for those who want to work to make their lives better.

See, its very simple.  :y :)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Bigron on 07 May 2019, 18:45:41
Yes Albs, that is common sense; but we all know that sense isn't very common - especially amomgst the snowflakes!

Ron.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 May 2019, 19:20:51
Yes Albs, that is common sense; but we all know that sense isn't very common - especially amomgst the snowflakes!

Ron.

I hope he would ban political correctness and set up a government facility for curing gobby feminists.

Feminists that can't be cured should be sent to room 101 for a chat with TB. :)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 May 2019, 19:26:47
Yes Albs, that is common sense; but we all know that sense isn't very common - especially amomgst the snowflakes!

Ron.

I hope he would ban political correctness and set up a government facility for curing gobby feminists.

Feminists that can't be cured should be sent to a reprogramming facility in Lincolnshire. :)

Good idea.  :y ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: biggriffin on 07 May 2019, 19:43:39
Yes Albs, that is common sense; but we all know that sense isn't very common - especially amomgst the snowflakes!

Ron.

I hope he would ban political correctness and set up a government facility for curing gobby feminists.

Feminists that can't be cured should be sent to room 101 for a chat with lord  Opti's. Special Sword . :)


Fixed for fairness and correctness.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 May 2019, 19:56:34
Schlong The Thespian Slayer :D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 May 2019, 20:01:45
I wonder if this approach to law and order would act as more of a deterrent than 100 hours of community service. :)

https://youtu.be/M3U83QLoATU (https://youtu.be/M3U83QLoATU)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: dave the builder on 07 May 2019, 20:08:15
I wonder if this approach to law and order would act as more of a deterrent than 100 hours of community service. :)

https://youtu.be/M3U83QLoATU (https://youtu.be/M3U83QLoATU)

Being made to watch old youtube videos  :-\
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 May 2019, 20:21:11
I wonder if this approach to law and order would act as more of a deterrent than 100 hours of community service. :)

https://youtu.be/M3U83QLoATU (https://youtu.be/M3U83QLoATU)

Being made to watch old youtube videos  :-\


Repeats of Eldorado on a never ending loop.... :D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 08 May 2019, 21:22:42
There is a programme on BBC4 at the minute Brexit behind closed doors. For anyone who has a shred of national pride or loyalty it will make you feel physically sick and boil your blood.
Basically, it shows Verhofstadt and his cronies laughing, joking and taking the piss out of anything British.
Even playing God save the queen by the sex pistols during their meeting and sniggering as its played.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 May 2019, 21:46:09
What a bunch of kucfing tuncs!   :)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 May 2019, 21:47:44
What a bunch of kucfing tuncs!   :)
Is that your surprised face?  ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 May 2019, 22:09:35
What a bunch of kucfing tuncs!   :)
Is that your surprised face?  ;D

No but if Farage and Co have any sense they'll max out on that!  :)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: STEMO on 08 May 2019, 22:13:49
People are funny. We can call our country all the names under the sun, but those germins better not do it.  ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Raeturbo on 08 May 2019, 22:17:07
We’ve been bent over :(
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: STEMO on 08 May 2019, 22:19:12
We’ve been bent over :(
Of course we have.....but, if the boot was on the other foot, we'd do exactly the same.

We'll just have to bomb Berlin again.  ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Raeturbo on 08 May 2019, 22:20:32
Ahh now that’s a good idea......
 Worked last time :y
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: STEMO on 08 May 2019, 22:23:28
We should have 'Brexit behind closed doors from Downing Street' next. Theresa jackbooting around the place whilst holding a toothbrush over her top lip and Jezza slapping some Jews.



Maybe not...... ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Raeturbo on 08 May 2019, 22:25:21
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 08 May 2019, 23:41:40
The programme finished with one of Verhofstadts advisers laughing into the camera saying "weve kicked them out, weve turned them into a colony,this was the plan right from the start. hahaha". Then Verhofstadt revealing that Olly Robbins had asked his permission to become a Belgian citizen when its all over. Ddint we used to hang collaborators ?  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Gaffers on 09 May 2019, 13:52:57
Blair's greatest success was to make himself a multi millionaire.

Partly through investment in oil futures in Iraq.  Divide the money he made from that by the number of dead (UK, coalition and Iraqi) and you have the a idea of the value he puts on human life.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 May 2019, 14:43:55
Indeed. An utterly vile creature with no redeeming characteristics whatsoever. I developed a rule of thumb around 20 years ago, that if he said it was good that means its bad, and vice versa. It served me pretty well.
We can only hope there is a hell.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 May 2019, 14:44:57
The programme finished with one of Verhofstadts advisers laughing into the camera saying "weve kicked them out, weve turned them into a colony,this was the plan right from the start. hahaha". Then Verhofstadt revealing that Olly Robbins had asked his permission to become a Belgian citizen when its all over. Ddint we used to hang collaborators ?  >:( >:(

Part one available in iplayer. Part two on BBC4 tonight.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 May 2019, 15:39:23
The programme finished with one of Verhofstadts advisers laughing into the camera saying "weve kicked them out, weve turned them into a colony,this was the plan right from the start. hahaha". Then Verhofstadt revealing that Olly Robbins had asked his permission to become a Belgian citizen when its all over. Ddint we used to hang collaborators ?  >:( >:(

Part one available in iplayer. Part two on BBC4 tonight.
I shall avoid both as I quite like my telly and blood pressure   >:(
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Raeturbo on 09 May 2019, 15:45:25
So shall I. Can do without shouting at the telly again  :o
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 May 2019, 18:05:40
It really has to be seen to be believed.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 May 2019, 18:29:51
I would have been almost disappointed if they hadn't been like that tbh.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 May 2019, 18:40:20
Me too, but I was a bit shocked at the shamelessness of it.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: New POD on 09 May 2019, 21:28:37
It is impossible to Vote, as they are all bad in so many ways.

The question should be who was the least worst?

Blair. B
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At least he took 90% of children who were in poverty out of poverty.

Unlike Cameron and May, whose austerity measures have made people desperate.  So desperate that they kill themselves.

Obviously Thatcher oppsed the kids (in the words of the Iconic Frank Turner Song), but Cameron and May did it again.
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 May 2019, 23:03:45
There's one in every village  ::)
Title: Re: Who is the worst British Prime Minister in modern times?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 May 2019, 09:53:54
That's to say it's one opinion...

But blaming Cameron and May for austerity is a ridiculous notion. You've actually Blair and Browns' economic policy to thank for that ::)

As for austerity causing people to kill themselves, that wouldn't have anything to do with them living beyond their means when times were "good" with artificially high wages and benefits and housing being handed out to everyone regardless of actual need?

A cynic might have reason to suggest that somebody actually conceived the whole dastardly idea just to further the Socialist* cause by creating a welfare dependency in the wake of the financial crash :-X

*Ironic given that the concept of controlling people by poverty doesn't seem particularly sociable.