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[fazekasa]

Hello Everyone,

I have a small problem with my Omega. This is my second one (made in 2000, Facelift), first was made in 1995. In the first one it was working the close the door windows with the keys. But in my facelift Omega this fuction doesn't work.
The module number in old one: 90 464 713
The module number in new one: 90 564 349
My question: is it posssible to change them in my car?
Or how can I solve this problem?

Thanks for the answers!

[Andy B]

Do the windows go up via the switch on their own ie press the switch, let go & the window carries on till it's closed or hits an obstruction? If yes, then I don't know, but if not, the windows need resetting by closing each window & then hold the witch till you hear a click in the door. This should restore the function by either fob or holding the key in the lock position till they're closed. If you have a sunroof, it should close that too. 

[fazekasa]

Do the windows go up via the switch on their own ie press the switch, let go & the window carries on till it's closed or hits an obstruction?

Yes, its working, the windows is closing like this, but it is not working from key. And it is not working if I switch the key into the door lock from outside and hold it turn away as well.

[Andy B]

Do the windows go up via the switch on their own ie press the switch, let go & the window carries on till it's closed or hits an obstruction?

Yes, its working, the windows is closing like this, but it is not working from key. And it is not working if I switch the key into the door lock from outside and hold it turn away as well.

All fuses intact?  Windows IIRC are powered from two supplies ..... I had a fuse ( duff cigar lighter  ) in my Senator go and the windows would operate with the door open, but not when closed

[fazekasa]

Do the windows go up via the switch on their own ie press the switch, let go & the window carries on till it's closed or hits an obstruction?

Yes, its working, the windows is closing like this, but it is not working from key. And it is not working if I switch the key into the door lock from outside and hold it turn away as well.

All fuses intact?  Windows IIRC are powered from two supplies ..... I had a fuse ( duff cigar lighter  ) in my Senator go and the windows would operate with the door open, but not when closed

Good idea, I'm going to check the fuses.

[fazekasa]

Do the windows go up via the switch on their own ie press the switch, let go & the window carries on till it's closed or hits an obstruction?

Yes, its working, the windows is closing like this, but it is not working from key. And it is not working if I switch the key into the door lock from outside and hold it turn away as well.

All fuses intact?  Windows IIRC are powered from two supplies ..... I had a fuse ( duff cigar lighter  ) in my Senator go and the windows would operate with the door open, but not when closed

Good idea, I'm going to check the fuses.

Fuses checked, all is ok!

[Andy B]

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Fuses checked, all is ok!

 
So, you checked the fuses, found a duff one & now all is OK or ............ checked fuses, all were OK & the windows still don't work off the fob/lock   

[chrisgixer]

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Fuses checked, all is ok!

 
So, you checked the fuses, found a duff one & now all is OK or ............ checked fuses, all were OK & the windows still don't work off the fob/lock   

I took that as.... Fuses ok.

[Andy B]

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Fuses checked, all is ok!

 
So, you checked the fuses, found a duff one & now all is OK or ............ checked fuses, all were OK & the windows still don't work off the fob/lock   

I took that as.... Fuses ok.

I think I did too ........ 

Just need answer from Fazekasa to confirm one way or t'other   

[Broomies Mate]

Was it not only very early cars which had this feature?

MFL/FL car's came without it IIRC. 

As to whether or not the modules are interchangeable, I have no idea.

[Andy B]

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MFL/FL car's came without it IIRC. 

....

Not correct  My MFL certainly has this, as did my wife's 52 plate Elegance Astra G on all windows (even my crappy Astra with just electric windows a the front would close them via the key in the lock. 

Your 3.2 should do the same 

[Broomies Mate]

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MFL/FL car's came without it IIRC. 

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Not correct  My MFL certainly has this, as did my wife's 52 plate Elegance Astra G on all windows (even my crappy Astra with just electric windows a the front would close them via the key in the lock. 

Your 3.2 should do the same 

Astra and Vectra I agree with - They all had it.

Neither of my 2MFL had this and the FL doesn't either. 

[Andy B]

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Astra and Vectra I agree with - They all had it.

Neither of my 2MFL had this and the FL doesn't either. 

     I thought they all had it. Even my Senator had it via the lock 

[andymp]

My 2003 model has total closure, but only if I press and hold the lock button on the fob?

[Andy B]

My 2003 model has total closure, but only if I press and hold the lock button on the fob?

That how it works ...... 

[05omegav6]

My 2003 model has total closure, but only if I press and hold the lock button on the fob?

That how it works ...... 

[Broomies Mate]

I've been out this evening, tried pressing and holding the unlock button, tried turning the key in the lock and holding it in the unlock position..... nothing happens.

It's a long time ago, but something in the back of my numbskull tells me this was a feature which was not available on any later Omega's. 

All Windows and Sunroof are 'one-touch' so all is working as it should.

Please don't tell me I'm going mad! 

EDITED TO ADD:  I need a video of someone standing beside their FL Omega, pressing the key and the windows retract..... if I don't get that evidence, I'll never believe it! 

[Andy B]

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EDITED TO ADD:  I need a video of someone standing beside their FL Omega, pressing the key and the windows retract..... if I don't get that evidence, I'll never believe it! 

maybe tomorrow ...... 

[dbdb]

Do the windows go up via the switch on their own ie press the switch, let go & the window carries on till it's closed or hits an obstruction? If yes, then I don't know, but if not, the windows need resetting by closing each window & then hold the witch till you hear a click in the door. This should restore the function by either fob or holding the key in the lock position till they're closed. If you have a sunroof, it should close that too. 

My bet is that this is the problem.  fazekasa are you certain the windows close all the way when you pull up the window switch briefly and let go?  Or do you have to hold the switch up all the time until they are closed (safe mode)? If so, simple fix as mentioned. The windows will not close remotely if they are in safe mode.

[dbdb]

I've been out this evening, tried pressing and holding the unlock button, tried turning the key in the lock and holding it in the unlock position..... nothing happens.

It's a long time ago, but something in the back of my numbskull tells me this was a feature which was not available on any later Omega's. 

All Windows and Sunroof are 'one-touch' so all is working as it should.

Please don't tell me I'm going mad! 

EDITED TO ADD:  I need a video of someone standing beside their FL Omega, pressing the key and the windows retract..... if I don't get that evidence, I'll never believe it! 

unlock, retract?  AFAIK the windows only close when the car is locked they don't open when the car is unlocked do they?  Why would you want to do that?

I suppose there is that very old TV ad for a Toyota Celica (with air con) where he (always a he) arrives at the party in the sports car in very hot weather with all the windows closed,  leaves car and opens all his windows.  Or was it a Nissan 200?

[dbug]

I've been out this evening, tried pressing and holding the unlock button, tried turning the key in the lock and holding it in the unlock position..... nothing happens.

It's a long time ago, but something in the back of my numbskull tells me this was a feature which was not available on any later Omega's. 

All Windows and Sunroof are 'one-touch' so all is working as it should.

Please don't tell me I'm going mad! 

EDITED TO ADD:  I need a video of someone standing beside their FL Omega, pressing the key and the windows retract..... if I don't get that evidence, I'll never believe it! 

unlock, retract?  AFAIK the windows only close when the car is locked they don't open when the car is unlocked do they?  Why would you want to do that?

I suppose there is that very old TV ad for a Toyota Celica (with air con) where he (always a he) arrives at the party in the sports car in very hot weather with all the windows closed,  leaves car and opens all his windows.  Or was it a Nissan 200?

Dunno - but Jags have that facility, amongst many others on the fob

[Andy B]

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Dunno - but Jags have that facility, amongst many others on the fob

My Merc will OPEN the windows & roof via the fob, however it uses infra red, which means you've to stand next to the door to do it. 

[Andy B]

I've been out this evening, tried pressing and holding the unlock button, tried turning the key in the lock and holding it in the unlock position..... nothing happens. .....

Thanks to dbdb for reading your post .......  Fazekasa is talking about CLOSING the roof & windows, not opening them 

[chrisgixer]

Was it not only very early cars which had this feature?

MFL/FL car's came without it IIRC. 

As to whether or not the modules are interchangeable, I have no idea.

Your 3.2 has it. You need to reset the windows (close and hold the button up on each window) and sunroof(press the dial/button in)

Then lock the car by the fob, then dead lock the car by the fob and hold the button in. Wait a second or two and it will close(not open) any windows that are open and the sunroof.

If it doesn't work there's a fault.


...works on my 3.2 elite, 3.2mv6, 2.5 99cdx.

I'm not absolutely certain it works on all models like cd or Gls but I'm fairly cirtain it does on all omegas

[chrisgixer]

Just to add, I wish of did open as well as close.

On a hot day who wants to sit in a baking hot car.

It would be nice to open the windows an inch on the fob before departure to cool the cabin.

[danzigfan]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uEagptZUXoU
 Didn't even know about this....MFL

[Andy B]

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Then lock the car by the fob, then dead lock the car by the fob and hold the button in.  .....

Total closure works on the first press of the 'lock' button too ..... it doesn't have to be dead locked 

[dbug]

Yep - press and hold lock button - total closure of windows and sunroof - worked on our mfls and current facelift (CD).

[TheBoy]

Yep - press and hold lock button - total closure of windows and sunroof - worked on our mfls and current facelift (CD).

Indeed, no need to deadlock, just press and hold lock button (or hold key in lock postition) and after a second, all windows and sunroof will attempt to close.

**NOTE** they will immediately stop closing if you release button or release key in lock, as a safety feature.

[TheBoy]

And fitted to all UK spec cars post 1996, not sure about 94 and 95 cars

[Andy H]

And fitted to all UK spec cars post 1996, not sure about 94 and 95 cars

My 94 2.5 CD saloon had it.

[Bob G]

My 2000 GLS has it

[05omegav6]

All the ex plods I have driven/owned have it

[fazekasa]

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Fuses checked, all is ok!

 
So, you checked the fuses, found a duff one & now all is OK or ............ checked fuses, all were OK & the windows still don't work off the fob/lock   

So I have checked them and all were ok, hadn't need to change anyone of them.

[Andy B]

....
Fuses checked, all is ok!

 
So, you checked the fuses, found a duff one & now all is OK or ............ checked fuses, all were OK & the windows still don't work off the fob/lock   

So I have checked them and all were ok, hadn't need to change anyone of them.

and are your windows now closing via the fob? 

[fazekasa]

Do the windows go up via the switch on their own ie press the switch, let go & the window carries on till it's closed or hits an obstruction? If yes, then I don't know, but if not, the windows need resetting by closing each window & then hold the witch till you hear a click in the door. This should restore the function by either fob or holding the key in the lock position till they're closed. If you have a sunroof, it should close that too. 

My bet is that this is the problem.  fazekasa are you certain the windows close all the way when you pull up the window switch briefly and let go?  Or do you have to hold the switch up all the time until they are closed (safe mode)? If so, simple fix as mentioned. The windows will not close remotely if they are in safe mode.

Is it possible to close windows with the window switch and let go. But not possible to close them from outside from the key.

[fazekasa]

....
Fuses checked, all is ok!

 
So, you checked the fuses, found a duff one & now all is OK or ............ checked fuses, all were OK & the windows still don't work off the fob/lock   

So I have checked them and all were ok, hadn't need to change anyone of them.

and are your windows now closing via the fob? 

Sorry, what is fob?

[05omegav6]

Buttons on the key

If the one touch feature works on the window switches, they should close with the key buttons

Does the remote locking work?

[fazekasa]

Buttons on the key

If the one touch feature works on the window switches, they should close with the key buttons

Does the remote locking work?

Yes, its working, I can lock my car with it, but not possible to close the windows with it. 
That is my problem. It could be some differences between my komfort modul and other moduls.
One of my friend Omega's has the same problem.

[fazekasa]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uEagptZUXoU
 Didn't even know about this....MFL

This is the function that I'm missing.

[fazekasa]

....
Fuses checked, all is ok!

 
So, you checked the fuses, found a duff one & now all is OK or ............ checked fuses, all were OK & the windows still don't work off the fob/lock   

So I have checked them and all were ok, hadn't need to change anyone of them.

and are your windows now closing via the fob? 

No. 

[SPD]

I had the same problem on my 2002 2.5 DTI. The problem was with one wire which was disconnected. You must check your wires. Possibly you will receive error 00018 - comfort module/sunroof low voltage when you use "My Naff Code Reader". Try to locate this wire and fix it. It works for me.

[fazekasa]

I had the same problem on my 2002 2.5 DTI. The problem was with one wire which was disconnected. You must check your wires. Possibly you will receive error 00018 - comfort module/sunroof low voltage when you use "My Naff Code Reader". Try to locate this wire and fix it. It works for me.

What is "My Naff Code Reader" 
Last weekend we have checked the car with a code reader, nothing similar.