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Omega MV6 Bose installation
« on: 25 February 2008, 16:55:42 »

i aquired a bose CCRT 700 stereo with the cd changer from the scrap yard! how can i make the stereo work is there a wiring diagram about? i would be greatful if someone could provide me with one

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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #1 on: 25 February 2008, 17:01:21 »

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i aquired a bose CCRT 700 stereo with the cd changer from the scrap yard! how can i make the stereo work is there a wiring diagram about? i would be greatful if someone could provide me with one

thanks in advance tom
What was in there previously?
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #2 on: 25 February 2008, 17:10:57 »

ccr600 with blaupunkt changer
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #3 on: 25 February 2008, 17:19:09 »

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ccr600 with blaupunkt changer

Voila !

http://www.ccpip.org/800/service/Connctn.html

 8-)

You will note that the connectors are totally different physically but the wiring is the same so all the wires are there.

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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #4 on: 25 February 2008, 18:33:18 »

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ccr600 with blaupunkt changer

Voila !

http://www.ccpip.org/800/service/Connctn.html

 8-)

You will note that the connectors are totally different physically but the wiring is the same so all the wires are there.

 :y
Not quite!

As well as the wiring plugs being different, there are some other differences:

The wiring to the display (which has to be replaced, as ccrt700 has it has its own dedicated display) is different.  There are only 2 wires, which are in place, but should really be shielded.  I have tried it on the bench, and it seems to be OK on existing wires.

The wiring to the CD player (which has to be replaced, as the CCR600/CCR800 CDC2 changer is different to the identical looking ccrt700 CDC2 changer) is different.  At least 2 wires are missing.  I have further work to do in this area to find out what needs doing.  Hopefully, if the Bose loom came from same donor as ccrt700, then the wiring should be in place from kick panel to cdc2.

The loom to the courtesy light (which has to be replaced with the ccrt700 specific one) is missing.  Most of the right signals should be nearby, though the mic will need to be run.

Assuming your car is prewired for phone, the coax is missing from ccrt700 to kick panel is missing.

There does not appear to be an easy way to get a speed signal to the head unit.


Assuming you have fitting bose amp, speakers (all - the door ones are different to std), and loom, you may be better off fitting ccr800 which is plug and play to ccr600 once you've fitted bose loom.
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #5 on: 25 February 2008, 20:01:42 »

That's what I meant  ::)

but I knew you'd be along in a minute to give the technical details !

Speed wires are in passenger kick panel, look in CARIN thread for colours.  :y
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #6 on: 25 February 2008, 20:26:57 »

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That's what I meant  ::)

but I knew you'd be along in a minute to give the technical details !

Speed wires are in passenger kick panel, look in CARIN thread for colours.  :y
Speed wire on back of radio on ccr600. Trouble is, ccrt700 needs it delivered via CAN...
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #7 on: 27 February 2008, 17:07:02 »

ahh so it wont work with the MID then?

i did try wiring it in on tuesday but had no luck couldnt get the display to work as i didnt know which wires were the display!!! and the disc change i also couldnt get to work!
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #8 on: 27 February 2008, 17:34:51 »

You need a GID :

GID for CCRT support - Fitted to all the cars with CCRT radio sets, supports all the functions of the MID in a half height dot matrix display with some dedicated symbols to allow text etc from the phone function to be displayed, only fitted to mini facelift onwards and is coded to the radio unit via tech 2. Has a single grey connector.

Where did you get the CCRT700 from ?
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« Reply #9 on: 27 February 2008, 17:44:40 »

from the scrappy but he is a miserable muppet and i dont really wanna go back there

the bose amp was missing from the car so i assumed it didnt have one and the display in the car looked like my mid!
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« Reply #10 on: 27 February 2008, 17:58:43 »

Looks can be deceptive.

If you want the CCRT then bite the bullet and go back, if you don't it's bugger all use to you.

I highly reccommend the phone, it works from the steering wheel controls and the sound is excellent at 90 leptons  :y
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #11 on: 27 February 2008, 19:30:31 »

This is what I think you'll need, based on my testing:

CCRT700 - tech'2 for right config (Bose or Non Bose)
CCRT700 Display (not same as GID, MID, CID or TID)
CDC2 for CCRT700 (different to CDC2 for CCR600/800)
Amp and speakers for Bose (speakers are different to std), and shelf.
If car prewired for phone, connection from CCRT700 to drivers kick panel.  If not prewired, and cellular aerial.
If Bose - a Bose drivers kick panel to amp loom FOR CCRT700.  If non Bose - a non Bose drivers kick panel to CDC2 loom FOR CCRT700
Courtesy light FOR CCRT700

Even with all this, you'll still have to frig the wiring from radio to display, and radio to drivers kick panel.


Even after you've done that, I haven't worked out how to get a CAN based speed signal to CCRT700 - you older CCR600 had a pulse based signal.
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #12 on: 28 February 2008, 09:54:02 »

hmmm ill keep this as an ongoing project then i need a ccrt700 display then and a bose amp and speaker kit ill search fleabay and that then where does the bose amp live?????????
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #13 on: 28 February 2008, 10:25:11 »

In the boot in front of the spare wheelish
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Re: Omega MV6 Bose installation
« Reply #14 on: 28 February 2008, 11:17:22 »

found an amp loom courtesy light and full bose speakers for £100 just need a ccrt700 display!!!!!
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