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[Dazzler]

Has anyone found a way of coupling up an Ipod without using a FM modulator yet??
Has anyone taken it apart and looked to see if the chip can be soldered onto for a direct input??

[zirk]

Has anyone found a way of coupling up an Ipod without using a FM modulator yet??
Has anyone taken it apart and looked to see if the chip can be soldered onto for a direct input??

Cant see why not, think someone on here has done it with a 2006 or was it preamp out cant remember.

[Dazzler]

Has anyone found a way of coupling up an Ipod without using a FM modulator yet??
Has anyone taken it apart and looked to see if the chip can be soldered onto for a direct input??

Cant see why not, think someone on here has done it with a 2006 or was it preamp out cant remember.

Kevin done a line-out

[zirk]

Has anyone found a way of coupling up an Ipod without using a FM modulator yet??
Has anyone taken it apart and looked to see if the chip can be soldered onto for a direct input??

Cant see why not, think someone on here has done it with a 2006 or was it preamp out cant remember.

Kevin done a line-out

Seem to remember someone did it using Dil Relays between the HU and CD Changer, on a German Forum.

Pretty sure Ive saved the Cct diagram for it somewhere (somewhere??), if your interested.

[Dazzler]

Has anyone found a way of coupling up an Ipod without using a FM modulator yet??
Has anyone taken it apart and looked to see if the chip can be soldered onto for a direct input??

Cant see why not, think someone on here has done it with a 2006 or was it preamp out cant remember.

Kevin done a line-out

Seem to remember someone did it using Dil Relays between the HU and CD Changer, on a German Forum.

Pretty sure Ive saved the Cct diagram for it somewhere (somewhere??), if your interested.

yes please, then i could show it to someone who might know what they are looking at

[zirk]

Has anyone found a way of coupling up an Ipod without using a FM modulator yet??
Has anyone taken it apart and looked to see if the chip can be soldered onto for a direct input??

Cant see why not, think someone on here has done it with a 2006 or was it preamp out cant remember.

Kevin done a line-out

Seem to remember someone did it using Dil Relays between the HU and CD Changer, on a German Forum.

Pretty sure Ive saved the Cct diagram for it somewhere (somewhere??), if your interested.

yes please, then i could show it to someone who might know what they are looking at

Here'd the cct diagram, it says it for a NCDC 1100/1500 but sure it will work on the 2xxx as the CD unit is under the HU.

Probably got the pcb board layout as well somewhere.

Please NOTE anyone, I believe the Guy copyrights he's stuff so personal and friends use only, no commercial gains.


link temporarily removed by TheBoy

[TheBoy]

you will lose the CD Changer doing this I suspect...

Reckon a decent FM modulator would be better option to be honest

[Dazzler]

you will lose the CD Changer doing this I suspect...

Reckon a decent FM modulator would be better option to be honest

I have the Harmon Karden in mine at the moment and the sound is absolute crap , not sure if i have a duff one but not a route i would use again until proved otherwise.

[zirk]

you will lose the CD Changer doing this I suspect...

Reckon a decent FM modulator would be better option to be honest

Should be OK, K4 is the sensor between CD and MP3 (12v switching the relays).

[VXL V6]

If that circuit diagram is one of Hardware-Killers I would be very careful of publishing it on here or anywhere else.

[zirk]

If that circuit diagram is one of Hardware-Killers I would be very careful of publishing it on here or anywhere else.

Has his name on the diagram, it’s published free to use on similar sites. As long as it’s for personal use and not for commercial gains.

Tbh, switching some wires with relays isn't exactly patternable.

[Dave DND]

To avoid any copyright infringements and arguments about somebodies published work, its far easier to point to somebody elses URL that is hosting said pictures rather than publishing them on here and leaving OOF wide open to any claims.

Just because somebody has posted it up on the internet, does not mean that it is in the public domain, so unless the guy has told OOF personally that we can use it, then we should respect his copyright, and let someone else take the can by simply pointing towards the site that is hosting it.

 

[Andy B]

So .... who's gonna press the 'Alert moderator' button? 

[zirk]

DaveDND, I actually agree with you, but couldn't find the Web link before I posted.

Andy B, feel free to push the button and leave it to the Admins, I dont have a problem with it, its thier site and I would support the outcome 100%.

The bottem line is a fellow Off'er has asked a question and my reply's may have offered a solution, end of. 

[zirk]

Ok, just read the thread again the cct diagram been removed by the Admins, so no probs, I'll try and find the original web site. pm me if your interested to find out more.

Chris. 

[hotel21]

Ok, just read the thread again the cct diagram been removed by the Admins, so no probs, I'll try and find the original web site. pm me if your interested to find out more.

Chris. 

 

[Kevin Wood]

Well, I'd be interested to see the published circuit. I believe there are ways to do it if the will is there. I would hope to find a better way than a relay in the CD player input too.

Oh, and IMHO the tuner in the 2006 (no experience of 2013, etc) is cr@p so that's not a good start when trying to use a modulator.

Kevin

[TheBoy]

Ok, just read the thread again the cct diagram been removed by the Admins, so no probs, I'll try and find the original web site. pm me if your interested to find out more.

Chris. 

I'd say its fine to post a direct link back to his site, thats unlikely to be a problem

[Kevin Wood]

Wasn't this site, was it?

http://www.migrosser.de.vu/

Under "Farbdisplay +Line IN".

Did I mention it's in German? 

Yahoo does a reasonable job of translating it into Jedi, or so it seems, which is vaguely understandable.

Kevin

[zirk]

Same place, Kevin.

Now found the place were I originally got it from, 'Das Opel Forum'

http://www.opel-problemforum.de/f8-car-hifi-navigation/t44440-anschl%FCsse-cdr-2005-ncdc-2015-aux-in-line-out.html

HardwareKiller is/was a Mod on thier, see half way down the thread.

Chris.

[Phil]

I have stuck in the Parrot MKi9200.

Has conection for Icrap, USB and line in phonoearphone plug.

All works fine with my NCDC 2015 but did need to buy and Autoleads 'SOT' lead that cost about £8 for it all to work.

Sound is fine plus i have a handsfree bluetooth car kit

[Dave DND]

I have stuck in the Parrot MKi9200.

Has conection for Icrap, USB and line in phonoearphone plug.

All works fine with my NCDC 2015 but did need to buy and Autoleads 'SOT' lead that cost about £8 for it all to work.

Sound is fine plus i have a handsfree bluetooth car kit

Ingenious - a very clever way of solving the problem !

 

[Dazzler]

I have stuck in the Parrot MKi9200.

Has conection for Icrap, USB and line in phonoearphone plug.

All works fine with my NCDC 2015 but did need to buy and Autoleads 'SOT' lead that cost about £8 for it all to work.

Sound is fine plus i have a handsfree bluetooth car kit

Could you explain more please :-/
Does this not just run through the phone input and thus have a poorer sound quality, even mono?

[Dave DND]

Most of the Parrot kits have a stereo audio input, and the output is via a small inbuilt amplifier direct to the speakers through a patch lead rather than sending anything to the head unit. Only downside I see is that most of the Parrots generally only run the front two speakers, not all four?
Unless someone can advise otherwise?

[Dazzler]

Surely if this kit can do it then a lead with a jack plug could be used as well, and just plug in where this Parrot kit does :-/

[Dave DND]

The Parrot has its own small amplifier built in (2x8W ?)- it will still run even with the head unit removed, as does not integrate with the head unit at all.

[Dazzler]

The Parrot has its own small amplifier built in (2x8W ?)- it will still run even with the head unit removed, as does not integrate with the head unit at all.

So like said, the sound quality will be 0 then

[Dave DND]

The Parrot has its own small amplifier built in (2x8W ?)- it will still run even with the head unit removed, as does not integrate with the head unit at all.

So like said, the sound quality will be 0 then

Not sure it would be as high as zero

 

[miniator]

these new MKi's Dave have a 20w amp and will play through all 4 speakers. they link into the HU using ISO's and you can even get a module add on that allows you to using the cars oem steering wheel controls so that the entire system can be hidden from sigh....thats what ive concluded thus far, more info in the link below.

http://www.parrotshopping.com/uk/p_parrot_item.aspx?i=172822

if i wanted to upgrade the door speakers, run amps and subs would this be the best way of doing it. i dont fancy soldering etc etc inside the NCDC itself!
i do like the bluetooth handsfree and id probably go for the mki9000 so that i wont have to mount an ugly, non-oem screen in the car

[Dave DND]

these new MKi's Dave have a 20w amp and will play through all 4 speakers. they link into the HU using ISO's and you can even get a module add on that allows you to using the cars oem steering wheel controls so that the entire system can be hidden from sigh....thats what ive concluded thus far, more info in the link below.

http://www.parrotshopping.com/uk/p_parrot_item.aspx?i=172822

if i wanted to upgrade the door speakers, run amps and subs would this be the best way of doing it. i dont fancy soldering etc etc inside the NCDC itself!
i do like the bluetooth handsfree and id probably go for the mki9000 so that i wont have to mount an ugly, non-oem screen in the car

Not sure you are interpreting that correctly !!

Also, is that a 20W combined, or 20W per channel ?

The ISO connections DO NOT allow the signal to go into the head unit, its purely a lead to allow simplistic connections, unless I am missing something one the ones I`m fitting anyway !  And the steering controls are to allow the answer of the phone call, but as far as I am aware, currently only available on vehicles that have this option on the wheel anyway.

Head Unit > ISO > Parrot > ISO > Speakers

If researching, the IQ play system sounds better - still poor quality, but then if you are adamant about retaining the original head unit, it still offers a solution.

[Dazzler]

The reason for trying to retain the NCDC headunits Dave , is because all the trip computer stuff runs through it as well as the sat-nav and on some phone also.
And the fact a GOOD replacement unit is about a £1000 but will not do the trip comp

[zirk]

The reason for trying to retain the NCDC headunits Dave , is because all the trip computer stuff runs through it as well as the sat-nav and on some phone also.
And the fact a GOOD replacement unit is about a £1000 but will not do the trip comp

Phew!!!!, Thought you were going mention the Bose option as well, and it would all kick off again (only joking Dave). 

[TheBoy]

Hang on though, if listening via a gayPod, you're already compromising the quality long before it hits the stereo...

[Dazzler]

Hang on though, if listening via a gayPod, you're already compromising the quality long before it hits the stereo...

True but not by the amount of a phone kit @8w
It sounds ok at the moment via a cassette adapter. I have tried modulators and they sound really bad. Just trying to get the best than can be done.

[TheBoy]

Hang on though, if listening via a gayPod, you're already compromising the quality long before it hits the stereo...

True but not by the amount of a phone kit @8w
It sounds ok at the moment via a cassette adapter. I have tried modulators and they sound really bad. Just trying to get the best than can be done.

errr, would a cd be better quality?

[Phil]

Don't know about size of amps in the Parrot etc, but have to say sound quality is as good as playing a CD on the head unit and better than an FM adaptor. The volume is controlled by the Parrot not the head unit and goes plenty loud enough without any loss of 'quality'

It has a built in 'equalizer' to adjust sound output, but this isn't massively advanced

As above add another lead and it will all work with the steering wheel controls.

The screen and the controller in the 9200 are seperate items and can be mounted in different places in the car

Simple quick solution and doesn't need any opening up and soldering

[Dazzler]

Hang on though, if listening via a gayPod, you're already compromising the quality long before it hits the stereo...

True but not by the amount of a phone kit @8w
It sounds ok at the moment via a cassette adapter. I have tried modulators and they sound really bad. Just trying to get the best than can be done.

errr, would a cd be better quality?

Would need an estate to carry them all 

[Dave DND]

Quite a few Oofers are now using my high quality modulators, and so far, everybody has been impressed by them

http://www.dndservices.co.uk/am-88t.html

The Parrot does appear to offer a good solution also, with the added benefits of bluetooth, but will not work with BOSE.

Oh, and for those of you who like BOSE, my modulators work fine with them also -

(See Zirk, I`m even helping those to retain that god awfull BOSE system)

 

[miniator]

im going down to my local car audio place who sell parrots to have a chat with them........not sure what to do, at this rate i could be tempted to fit a double din unit (high quality one) and pull the ncdc out!


is anyone willing to try and solder in a line-in to the ncdc as that german site details? dave perhaps?!
i could supply the 2013.....

[Dave DND]

Sorry, from what I have seen of that modification, I would not be prepared to offer that on a commercial basis.

 

[Marks DTM Calib]

I have to be honest and say thats a pretty amateur mod.

Given the stereo IC in the device has a partialy unused stereo input it would have been more sensible to use that!

[miniator]

Sorry, from what I have seen of that modification, I would not be prepared to offer that on a commercial basis.

 

as a one off experiment!?? lol

just found there that alpine have a lovely double din media HU specifically for the ipod. i have the very first iDA single din in my old cars and it was fantastic....very tempting even with the loss of sat nav etc etc