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Re: BOSE Amp !
« Reply #30 on: 18 November 2009, 19:53:26 »

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Looking at the photo....is your son not a tad to young to be driving...even if it IS only a Ka. ??

Nah, start em young, thats what I say ;D ;D

Actually the babes in my avatar are mine, my lad is my step son, 20 years old, my wifes eldest. She also has 2 daughters (my step daughters) who are 15 and 13.

Its been quite a culture shock I can tell you, on my 30th I was moaning to my mates how I'd end up single etc etc then 4 years later im a father of 5 and recently became a grandad, plus I moved from my home town to Boston, Lincs. (plus i've lost my job and now want to start in something completely different) so as life changes go, I think all i've got to do is turn gay and thats the lot!! ;D ;D
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« Reply #31 on: 18 November 2009, 20:25:44 »

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Well Squelaey it always comes down to personal taste.
I had a Pioneer top model cassete player (9 series) with cd changer, magnat amp etc in my fiat couple of years ago, and my dad had factory fit stereo in his new Lancia Delta.
I swear sound coming from that cassete player (was Clarion standard fit) in Delta was better than any single cd player I heard.

Just brought my lad a Pioneer 9300 cassette  and CD changer as I had one many moons ago. Paid £27 off Ebay for it. Bloody fantastic bit of kit and imho absolutley unbeatable for the money!!!!

Its now in his Ka and even though the rest is standard it makes it sound really really impressive. And even though its old, it still looks classy sitting in the dashboard.

You need something with a bit of a kick to cover over the rattle of the tappets in a Ka :y ;D
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« Reply #32 on: 18 November 2009, 21:19:49 »

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Looking at the photo....is your son not a tad to young to be driving...even if it IS only a Ka. ??

Nah, start em young, thats what I say ;D ;D

Actually the babes in my avatar are mine, my lad is my step son, 20 years old, my wifes eldest. She also has 2 daughters (my step daughters) who are 15 and 13.

Its been quite a culture shock I can tell you, on my 30th I was moaning to my mates how I'd end up single etc etc then 4 years later im a father of 5 and recently became a grandad, plus I moved from my home town to Boston, Lincs. (plus i've lost my job and now want to start in something completely different) so as life changes go, I think all i've got to do is turn gay and thats the lot!! ;D ;D

PM Loo Knee... He can help with that! :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #33 on: 18 November 2009, 21:20:42 »

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to cover over the rattle of the tappets in a Ka :y ;D

Ford have had their money from that engine. Apart from a few mods, it's what was in the car I passed my test in ..... MKI Escort!  :-?  ;)
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« Reply #34 on: 18 November 2009, 23:24:47 »

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to cover over the rattle of the tappets in a Ka :y ;D

Ford have had their money from that engine. Apart from a few mods, it's what was in the car I passed my test in ..... MKI Escort!  :-?  ;)

Yep, had the same basic engine in my 105E Anglia and 107E Prefect!! Suppose if it aint broke etc etc
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« Reply #35 on: 19 November 2009, 08:02:53 »

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to cover over the rattle of the tappets in a Ka :y ;D

Ford have had their money from that engine. Apart from a few mods, it's what was in the car I passed my test in ..... MKI Escort!  :-?  ;)

Yep, had the same basic engine in my 105E Anglia and 107E Prefect!! Suppose if it aint broke etc etc

Trouble is it was broke....bloody awful thing with high wear rates!
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« Reply #36 on: 19 November 2009, 21:50:25 »

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to cover over the rattle of the tappets in a Ka :y ;D

Ford have had their money from that engine. Apart from a few mods, it's what was in the car I passed my test in ..... MKI Escort!  :-?  ;)

Yep, had the same basic engine in my 105E Anglia and 107E Prefect!! Suppose if it aint broke etc etc

Trouble is it was broke....bloody awful thing with high wear rates!


The Xflow

Not a brilliant engine, but loads of bits available for it.

For that size pushrodder I have always prefered the later Rootes lumps, I have quite a liking for the 1600 after stripping and rebuilding two in different cars.
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« Reply #37 on: 20 November 2009, 11:04:09 »

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The Xflow

Not a brilliant engine, but loads of bits available for it.

For that size pushrodder I have always prefered the later Rootes lumps, I have quite a liking for the 1600 after stripping and rebuilding two in different cars.

I am amazed how many kit car owners soldier on with them whilst there is an abundance of decent 16v DOHC lumps in the scrap yards. They must prefer engine building to driving.

I did have a mate with a 200bhp 1.7 XF. Loads of power - between 6k and 8k RPM! Nothing to be found anywhere else..

But the smaller Valencia and HCS are even worse. 3 bearing crank, anyone? <shudder>

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« Reply #38 on: 20 November 2009, 11:07:45 »

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The Xflow

Not a brilliant engine, but loads of bits available for it.

For that size pushrodder I have always prefered the later Rootes lumps, I have quite a liking for the 1600 after stripping and rebuilding two in different cars.

I am amazed how many kit car owners soldier on with them whilst there is an abundance of decent 16v DOHC lumps in the scrap yards. They must prefer engine building to driving.

I did have a mate with a 200bhp 1.7 XF. Loads of power - between 6k and 8k RPM! Nothing to be found anywhere else..

But the smaller Valencia and HCS are even worse. 3 bearing crank, anyone? <shudder>

Kevin

Lol, yes.....remember that the only thing the Ka has in common with a X-flow is the basic head design...

I to realy cant understand why anybody soldiers on with them.
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« Reply #39 on: 20 November 2009, 11:18:58 »

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The Xflow

Not a brilliant engine, but loads of bits available for it.

For that size pushrodder I have always prefered the later Rootes lumps, I have quite a liking for the 1600 after stripping and rebuilding two in different cars.

I am amazed how many kit car owners soldier on with them whilst there is an abundance of decent 16v DOHC lumps in the scrap yards. They must prefer engine building to driving.

I did have a mate with a 200bhp 1.7 XF. Loads of power - between 6k and 8k RPM! Nothing to be found anywhere else..

But the smaller Valencia and HCS are even worse. 3 bearing crank, anyone? <shudder>

Kevin

Lol, yes.....remember that the only thing the Ka has in common with a X-flow is the basic head design...

I to realy cant understand why anybody soldiers on with them.

Easy answer - No ECU`s - No Immobilisers - No Complex electronics and an abundance of blocks for 50p

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« Reply #40 on: 20 November 2009, 12:14:25 »

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The Xflow

Not a brilliant engine, but loads of bits available for it.

For that size pushrodder I have always prefered the later Rootes lumps, I have quite a liking for the 1600 after stripping and rebuilding two in different cars.

I am amazed how many kit car owners soldier on with them whilst there is an abundance of decent 16v DOHC lumps in the scrap yards. They must prefer engine building to driving.

I did have a mate with a 200bhp 1.7 XF. Loads of power - between 6k and 8k RPM! Nothing to be found anywhere else..

But the smaller Valencia and HCS are even worse. 3 bearing crank, anyone? <shudder>

Kevin

Lol, yes.....remember that the only thing the Ka has in common with a X-flow is the basic head design...

I to realy cant understand why anybody soldiers on with them.

Easy answer - No ECU`s - No Immobilisers - No Complex electronics and an abundance of blocks for 50p

 :P

But even without them, reliability is stil lower (even when you add the electronics into the equation)

And rare these days to
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« Reply #41 on: 20 November 2009, 12:38:49 »

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Easy answer - No ECU`s - No Immobilisers - No Complex electronics and an abundance of blocks for 50p

 :P

But even without them, reliability is stil lower (even when you add the electronics into the equation)

And rare these days to

If I'm tinkering with it (and surely you wouldn't leave a XFlow bog-standard?  :o) I'd rather have electronics than clockwork bits.

Carbs are a pain in the @rse to get running right after any tuning work (and require a drawer full of expensive chokes, jets, emulsion tubes, etc) whereas injection systems can be set up in an hour or two on the road with a laptop on the passenger seat.

You can make a car so much more driveable with a mapped ignition system over a mechanical dizzy, especially if you're tuning it, and you'll end up with something more reliable than a dizzy and coil anyway.

Not much more you actually need to make an engine run... Hardly complex IMHO.

You can bolt the above on to any engine from a scrappy that has a crank sensor easily enough, so why pick 1950's technology?

Now, if you're trying to retain the OEM ECU from a modern engine you will be giving yourself a headache, but for the cost of a megasquirt why would you?

I dumped my pair of 45DCOEs for a megasquirt injection setup 6 years ago and I literally haven't touched it since. Bear in mind this is a home made injection setup with home made ECU & loom, most parts salveaged from the scrappy (I did buy a pair of Jenvey TBs, although I was tempted to carve up some bike TBs).

Had I left the DCOEs on the car so many parts would have fallen off them by now that it wouldn't run let alone run well.

Kevin
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« Reply #42 on: 20 November 2009, 13:32:33 »

Indeed, carbs do sound better though.....
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« Reply #43 on: 20 November 2009, 13:43:53 »

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Indeed, carbs do sound better though.....

Can't really comment on that as the carbs were enclosed under the bonnet and the TB trumpets now poke through a hole in the bonnet, so guess which sounds best? ;D

It did highlight that the carbs were just not behaving until their main jets were flowing well. The car was transformed below 3K RPM.

I sometimes wish I'd put a WBO2 sensor on the carb setup just to see how well (or not) it was set up.

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« Reply #44 on: 20 November 2009, 13:45:20 »

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Indeed, carbs do sound better though.....

Can't really comment on that as the carbs were enclosed under the bonnet and the TB trumpets now poke through a hole in the bonnet, so guess which sounds best? ;D

It did highlight that the carbs were just not behaving until their main jets were flowing well. The car was transformed below 3K RPM.

I sometimes wish I'd put a WBO2 sensor on the carb setup just to see how well (or not) it was set up.

Kevin

Its the snort of the air through the venturi and the high pitch whistle of the jets.
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