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[Clarkey]

Is it possible to install CD70 Sat nav & colour info display from a 08 Vectra into 01 facelift Omega. Units will be put into delivery mode before removal from Vectra but is there a way of interfacing non can bus car to can bus head unit?

James.

[Jimbob]

none thats yet been found unfortunately.

few people have tried and initially failed 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Its not been tried, it may be possible.

The drive by wire Omega petrols have a small CAN bus section around the ABS ECU/Autobox and engine ECU.

Clearly check control wont work but, speed etc should be accessable.

I know the coding and chassis number thing is not an issue (as I have ran a CD70 with CID and non matching chassis number and PIN in the mum bus for some months)

[Dave DND]

No, it won`t work. The CAN signals for the ignition supply are not present in the Omega, meaning that even if you can power the stereo up, it may shut down every 60 minutes or so, and I think the correct CAN speed pulse signal is also missing, which would make a Navigation system completely pointless.

 

[Clarkey]

Thanks for the info lads. That has rained on my parade a bit but saves a lot of trial & error. Was hoping some mad electrial genius had invented an adapter from wiring of omega which included an interface pretending to be a CAN system.

Will the CID work with older original Omega Sat Nav unit by any chance?

[feeutfo]

 Waiting for TheBoy to comment on his similar experiment. Time permitting. I gather even he only expects partial success. Which is a real shame. 

So what needs to be on place for can bus to communicate?  Can functionality programmed into other relevant ecu's I guess?

[TheBoy]

Struggling to get it to run on the bench, not really got time to play, but now I have a double din car.....

[Clarkey]

No, it won`t work. The CAN signals for the ignition supply are not present in the Omega, meaning that even if you can power the stereo up, it may shut down every 60 minutes or so, and I think the correct CAN speed pulse signal is also missing, which would make a Navigation system completely pointless.

 

Just remembered the ignition logic can be switched off in the head unit so it will not need the ignition on CAN signal. Wondering where MID gets information for trip computer. The stereo would get all its info through the CIM on a Vectra from steering wheel control to speed. As Omega's don't have one it's probably not possible as you say.

[TheBoy]

I think you need the BCM from a Vectra to get the illumination to work, and you'll possibly have to forego the fuel computer (signals aren't available in right format anywhere).

Personally, for very little gain over NCDC, I know which is the easier option

[feeutfo]

TMC on cd70?

[TheBoy]

TMC on cd70?

Is it worth the effort/cost/loss of other functionality just for that

[Phil]

Will the CID work with older original Omega Sat Nav unit by any chance?

The CD70 CID DOESNOT work with the NCDC units.

Also its a wide screen unit so the Omaga dash would need to be chopped

As for putting a CD70 in a car that isn't full CAN, it has been done on a MK3 Cavalier, with the addition of some Vectra C modules to make it work.

A CD70 with CID/ GID can be fitted in to a half CAN Vectra C but takes a bit of fiddling so i'm sure it would be possible in an Omega, but at the end of the day its prob easier to go aftermarket!!

[TheBoy]

Early vec-c displays are quite different to omega ones, hence my lack of success so far...

[feeutfo]

TMC on cd70?

Is it worth the effort/cost/loss of other functionality just for that

Yes!    .....well, maybe....  no probably not. 

[VXL V6]

TMC on cd70?

Is it worth the effort/cost/loss of other functionality just for that

Yes!    .....well, maybe....  no probably not.