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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #15 on: 23 January 2008, 21:33:18 »

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It has a ten hole connector with a little lever to release it.

This convinces me that this is the loom for the sat-nav unit.

10 hole is bigger than the one I was thinking of, so it loks as though you were right.  It'll be Monday now before I can delve in the boot of my car to look at the back of my sat-nav.
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #16 on: 24 January 2008, 03:00:03 »

all my carin stuff is boxed in the garage under lots of detritus. but also at the weekend should get a mo to dig it out and photo. hope that'll be some help.

i removed mine from my last elite and am going to fit it to the current one when the weather warms up or something. so am yet to see whether the loom's already there or not!
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #17 on: 24 January 2008, 10:46:20 »

Yes, it is.
It also has a mini coax attached to it.

I'm still making assumptions here but I would imagine that up front with be another coax connector that the GPS reciever will attach to.

I have decided to do a how-to on this subject once I have amassed al the relevant bits. (assuming I get it to work)
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #18 on: 24 January 2008, 14:51:15 »

Look forward to that with interest Jules
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #19 on: 24 January 2008, 17:27:22 »

OK this is from a 1997 Elite.

Rear loom connectors:

Rear of ROM unit:

Rear of Screen:

Dashboard to screen:

Coax for GPS:



Very kindly provided by the gentleman from Ebay who's kit I've bought.

Now this so far is incompatible with the loom in my boot. Which leads me to assume that the Carin systems have changed connections after 1999.

I already have a rom unit for a carin 522, this has the same connectors as ablove plus an RGB din for a colour monitor.

Why is nothing ever simple
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #20 on: 28 January 2008, 09:47:02 »

Update :

Went to a breakers on Saturday and got a complete 1999 Carin.

The connector previously discussed that I have in my boot is a red herring and nothing to do with the Sat Nav.  :'(

The loom runs from the rear of the car to the front, it has a middle connector that 'breaks out' into two looms, one goes to the screen and has the speaker and remote attached and the other goes somewhere as yet unknown.

This unknown connector has six pins. I am guessing these are

Permanent live
Ignition live
Ground
Speed pulse
Illumination
Reverse ?????

Does anyone know where the female recepticle for this connector is to be found ?

Cheers
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #21 on: 28 January 2008, 10:02:33 »

Jules, didn't you just win a system off fleabay?
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #22 on: 28 January 2008, 10:05:32 »

Yes, now I have two !!
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #23 on: 28 January 2008, 16:16:38 »

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5747/carinkd7.gif

So from this diagram, I am looking for :

A1 RED Constant positive feed
A2 VIOLET Ignition feed
A4 WH/Yl Reverse lights or switch
A5 BL/WH Speed pulse
A7 BROWN Ground
A9 GREY Sidelights.

The colours above are at the NAV unit interface.

What I am wondering is if there is a female receptor somewhere in the main loom with all these connections ?

Anyone ?

Cheers
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #24 on: 04 February 2008, 16:01:20 »

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http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5747/carinkd7.gif

So from this diagram, I am looking for :

A1 RED Constant positive feed
A2 VIOLET Ignition feed
A4 WH/Yl Reverse lights or switch
A5 BL/WH Speed pulse
A7 BROWN Ground
A9 GREY Sidelights.

The colours above are at the NAV unit interface.

What I am wondering is if there is a female receptor somewhere in the main loom with all these connections ?

Anyone ?

Cheers

Have now found a seperate brown for the ground, and the 6th connector on this mini plug goes back up the loom to the display.

Can anyone help me to locate where this connector goes in the car's loom? I don't know where the loom ran in the donor cars and I don't really want to pull the whole car to bits.

Looking at the long loom I'm guessing it ran down the passenger side, under the glove box past the stereo and down the transmission tunnel.

That would infer the connector is somewhere between the passenger footwell and the screen location.

Anyone help ?

Marky-Mark, didn't you retro fit one ?

Cheers
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #25 on: 04 February 2008, 17:13:41 »

Hello,
I've retro fitted the carin system to my 1996 omega elite, follow the link below it helped me :y


http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/omega-elite/menupages/omegasatnav/satnav.htm
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #26 on: 04 February 2008, 17:21:31 »

Cheers Jim, that does help in so far as I have a plug with the wires this guy talks about fitting into the main connectors.

I was wondering if anyone knew the location of the female connector on the 1999 models.

If all else fails I could strip the plug off and solder the wires into the passenger footwell.
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #27 on: 05 February 2008, 10:17:06 »

Ok, on to the integration with the stereo, comments from DND Dave extremely welcome on this one.

The speaker in the footwell is a simple two wire job, so from here :

http://www.ccpip.org/800/service/Connctn.html

looking at the wiring for the CCRT700,

Could I use connections:

 C3-16 Ext Audio Input +
 C3-19 Ext Audio Input  -

For the sat-nav voice ?

And would anyone like to take a guess if the stereo would detect a signal applied on the positive line and go into 'message' mode automatically ? Or would it not be so simple ?


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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #28 on: 05 February 2008, 10:36:01 »

I can see your thoughts -

As the CCRT700 was never designed to have a true "AUX" input, I think that these connectors may be reserved for use with something else - Phone, or changer input.

Not necessarily a problem if you can determine what needs to be done to the stereo to activate such inputs and then its just a case of sorting out the voltage level to plug in (thats the easy bit)

Others out there may be a bit more familiar with this unit than I am.
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Re: Carin Sat Nav
« Reply #29 on: 05 February 2008, 10:43:18 »

You will also need to find a suitable Mute wire from the Nav so that it triggers the Mute circuit on the head unit, as I do not think that the head unit is set up to give "voice over music"

Again, others may know better with this one, just firing off a few thoughts.
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