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Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« on: 03 May 2009, 14:08:00 »

Hi, my colour display on my ncdc 2013 has recently started to break up.
IE the picture goes scrambled.
When I push the dash panel on the display side it comes back on for a short while then goes off again, slapping the top of the dash over the display also seems to bring it back for a while.

I am thinking that maybe there’s a broken wire or a dry solder joint to one of the pins.
I have used the forum for info on how to take out the dash, I have removed the large grey plug to the display but I am not sure how to remove the small black plug as not sure how it locks in.

Any other suggestions or information on display break up please I would be very grateful thanks.

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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #1 on: 03 May 2009, 14:32:21 »

Quite common with the vibration of the car for the plug to work loose, try unplugging from the rear and reseating the plug back in :y
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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #2 on: 03 May 2009, 15:29:53 »

Hi Lee thanks for the post.
I have removed the large grey plug and reseated it and the display stopped on longer but the display still breaks up.
I have removed this plug again, taken off the outer jacket and checked all the wires are attached and they were.
I then replaced the plug without its jacket and moved each wire intern this made no difference. The screen was working ok while I moved the wires but scrambled again after.
I need to remove the small black plug but not sure how this locks into the screen I do not want to use to much force as it may break.

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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #3 on: 03 May 2009, 15:34:12 »

The smaller black plug has a small spring clip same as the larger grey plug, it's located centrally on the grey plug side of the black plug. A good sharp tug with the clip depressed should see it out.



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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #4 on: 03 May 2009, 15:38:47 »

Thanks Lee I will go and give it a try.

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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #5 on: 03 May 2009, 17:01:31 »

Hi Lee, thank you plug came out real easy depressing that clip.
Taken the jacket off the small plug and with the screen removed from the dash housing plugged both plugs back in to check small plug wires these were ok.
What I have found out now is when I squeeze the screen housing very lightly on the big plug side screen picture comes on and stops on.
Would seem a lose connection inside screen on that side so I am going to open the back cover and take a look.

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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #6 on: 03 May 2009, 18:31:58 »

Glad you're closer to solving it H :y
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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #7 on: 03 May 2009, 19:17:20 »

That fault is always a faulty LCD panel.  Solution, new panel.

If you can find a way to clamp ribbon to glass, you may resolve.
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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #8 on: 03 May 2009, 20:06:53 »

Hi, there’s just a little play maybe 1mm on the plug side of the housing a very light squeeze to close this play and the screen starts working ok.
I am thinking of taking this play up with a small self taper to see if I can get a bit more life out of it, if you say the ribbon may be on the way out.

I have not taken the screen out of its housing so as to expose the LCD however I have now got the unit on the dinning room table so will take a look.
Could you give me an idea what to look for.

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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #9 on: 04 May 2009, 09:47:28 »

CID is made up of 2 boards and the LCD panel.  The 2 boards are connected via 2 connectors, and the middle board is connected to the LCD panel via a (reliable) ribbon cable.

The panel itself, a self contained unit, is made up of the electronics/driver board, and the actual LCD 'glass' bit, joined by a ribbon.  It would appear that the problem lies in the connection of this ribbon to the LCD glass.  A specialist LCD repair shop **may** be able to restick the ribbon to the LCD, but its not a job for a hobbiest electronics person.
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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #10 on: 04 May 2009, 10:18:10 »

Thanks for the information I decided last night not to play around with it for the same reasons, so just about to go out and rebuild the dash.

Could you please tell me if the unit needs a new LCD or am I looking at replacing the whole unit?
Do you do this type of work, as I was thinking of visiting you for the TS2 updates, my 3.2 elite is on 51 plate and as far as I know has never had any.


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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #11 on: 04 May 2009, 10:51:42 »

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Thanks for the information I decided last night not to play around with it for the same reasons, so just about to go out and rebuild the dash.

Could you please tell me if the unit needs a new LCD or am I looking at replacing the whole unit?
Do you do this type of work, as I was thinking of visiting you for the TS2 updates, my 3.2 elite is on 51 plate and as far as I know has never had any.


Regards

Harvin
need to replace lcd panel. the sharp 126 panel no longer available, 136 is, though I reckon its not as 'sharp' - maybe hotel21 who has a 136 current in his could comment?

panels aint cheap, if your not confident, there is a place on egay that does it for around 170eu
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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #12 on: 04 May 2009, 11:26:35 »

http://www.bba-reman.co.uk/uk/index.aspx will fit a 136 panel in if you  aren't confident or can't find someone on here to do it!  ::)
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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #13 on: 04 May 2009, 11:57:06 »

Thanks very much for the information.

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Re: Colour picture scrambling on & off.
« Reply #14 on: 04 May 2009, 12:52:36 »

Yep VXL V6 is right, get hold of Nigel Graham (Techie) at BBA-Reman. Had my CID repaired (new LCD panel) there for approx £180 with 2 year warranty. Unlike TB can't say that I've noticed any difference in sharpness of display. If you are confident and can source one of the Sharp 136 panels it is not much of a job to repair yourself (I believe there are only three wires involved that need to be soldered) but will not cost you that much less and will involve a very careful dismantling of the units PCB boards which sit above the screen. Thats why I left it to BBA!!
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